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So I've been going out with this girl for a couple weeks now (already worrying with attraction having an expiration window). We've only had 2 dates though since I've always been busy or she has (she's a senior in high school, I KNOW I KNOW; but 17 is legal for me so w/e). First date we had coffee (haven't paid for any dates btw, I straight up told her I won't pay for dates with a girl who isn't my GF). Only lasted 30-45 minutes, tried to move her to the mall to hangout but she had gotten her money stolen at the party we met at (New years, we made out right after she saw me making out with another girl). So she was going to go hunt down the girl who was supposedly guilty or something, at this point I hadn't kissed her but I'd been using some kino on her and she'd been giving me solid signs (twirling hair etc.) so I walked her to her car and manhandled the kiss when she tried to turn away (she gave me tongue too so it must have been attractive to her). We make out for a bit, I tell her she is coming over (parents were still gone at this point), she says she has to go get her money. I tell her to come over later that night when she can sneak out, she tries to give me the maybe and I tell her "I don't do that maybe shit 
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Anyway she does take off and then starts getting wishy washy over text about coming over, first saying she wants to hangout in a group first (I obviously say absolutely not to this), then saying she wants to get to know me better before she comes over like that since she knew exactly what I wanted. I say that's fine we can get to know each other better first. Fast forward to second date a week later (she flaked twice on me in that period, first time for school, second time for her dad's surgery; if it wasn't something like that I'd have nexted her I have a 1 flake tolerance level right now). She sneaks out and keeps me waiting like 30 minutes (apparently her parents were vacuuming the house at midnight lol like wtf), I don't let it bug me, soon as she gets in the car I start making out with her. We go to Dennys and chat for a bit, probably like an hour long date. We go back to my car and as we're walking to it I pull her close and start making out hard, frenching and grabbing her ass, then we get in the car and I park in a deserted lot since it's like 2-3 in the morning. Start chatting and kinda making out, but she won't even let me touch her boobs (no matter how much I pushed and pulled (probably need to work on overcoming LMR, but I think she just might be trying to BF/friend zone me...). ARound 4 she says she needs to get back, while we drive back I'm feeling up her leg n shit and she seems pretty into me. We say we'll hangout later that week but she flakes on dinner again (I just say no worries), texted her again to hangout on Sunday (with a "what's your sched like this week", but it was finals for her and while she said she was down her timing didn't work out for me (because I said I didn't want her just running off like our first date). She said "well then this week def won't work out sooooo", I got kind of annoyed and was in a bad mood and let it show, saying something along the lines of "well it doesn't seem like you're that interested in me so when that changes feel free to hmu". Felt that was a shitty way to end the interaction I'd already partly invested in -_-, so the next day I texted her saying "Sorry about yesterday, I'd love for you to text me after finals ", got no response.
So I thought that was the end of the interaction, buuuuut I decided to just see what was up, called her 2 days ago, we chatted for a bit with me saying "Hey I hope that I didn't push you in the wrong direction, I'm still interested in getting to know you better", she says "You didn't I've just been really stressed with finals" (she does take school seriously). I say "we should hangout this weekend but if you're still busy with your finals, I can hit you up next week", she says "she'll probably be busy so next week would work better but she'll let me know about the weekend", I say "No worries I'll hit ya up next week if I don't hear from you over the weekend". Didn't contact me over the weekend (not expecting it either haha, I was out running night game/partying/gym ratting doing more important things).
Some final thoughts on this: She's fucked a couple of my friends (and one enemy). Don't know the story with 2 of them (one a DJ and my former business partner in the Nightclub business I ran, the other one a pretty boy who's kind of part of our social circle). The third one is a fat kid with a nice car who apparently "was super nice to her and that's why she liked him", lol the first night I met her (couple months ago), we actually (as in everyone at the party) heard them fucking upstairs LMAO. The last one isn't a friend, he's a douchey Persian kid that's a couple years younger than me (she liked him for his intelligence), even though he's super creepy, hits on her 15 year old sister etc. He threatened to knock me out at a kickback we were at in between the first and second date (not to my face as I'm MUCH bigger than him/plus he knows I have plenty of backup, the guy he told that too literally laughed in his face and said I'd slaughter him). I just played it cool because I didn't really care I had other girls anyway lol (and still do). I don't care all that much about this girl, but as I'm a beginner I'm trying to understand women a bit better, what could be going on in this situation? Why won't she let me get farther than touching her boobs when she's already fucked 4 people I know? Keep in mind I don't know the story on the other guys (not that it matters, can't compare myself to other people anyway because we're not in the same situation, I just don't know how long it took them to sleep together or whatever). I do know that fat guy and persian guy both chased her a lot before they finally got her, and both wanted to date her but she wouldn't date either of them. Dunno about the other 2 guys. I do know that all 4 of them did the party/drunk meeting "friends" hookup instead of the dates/hangouts sober.
Also kind of important, she knows I'm a bit more successful as far as school/work/keeping in shape than all of the other guys, but we've only been on two dates, so... I couldn't be BF zoned already yeah? Friend zoning maybe? Trying not to look slutty? Again I'm not super into this girl (even though she's quite sexy, Brunette Americanized Italian who ran XC and also seriously modeled for a year) it just seemed to be a solid option, and now I'm not sure. I hate wasting my time so... Am I expecting to much too fast? A lot of the first date sex I used to get was from either when I had MASSIVE social power from running the nightclubs/parties, or the girls (and myself) were a AT LEAST a little tipsy. Hasn't always been like that I've fucked a few sober girls on the first date so I know my game isn't completely horrid, I understand I'm a beginner and may be expecting too much to fast.
Wanted some feedback from the community
Edit: Forgot to add I noticed that she is one of the first to view my snapchat stories every time I post something new, I know 17 year old girls do tend to watch everyones snapchat anyway but..... could be a factor in my favor? Who knows!
". Anyway she does take off and then starts getting wishy washy over text about coming over, first saying she wants to hangout in a group first (I obviously say absolutely not to this), then saying she wants to get to know me better before she comes over like that since she knew exactly what I wanted. I say that's fine we can get to know each other better first. Fast forward to second date a week later (she flaked twice on me in that period, first time for school, second time for her dad's surgery; if it wasn't something like that I'd have nexted her I have a 1 flake tolerance level right now). She sneaks out and keeps me waiting like 30 minutes (apparently her parents were vacuuming the house at midnight lol like wtf), I don't let it bug me, soon as she gets in the car I start making out with her. We go to Dennys and chat for a bit, probably like an hour long date. We go back to my car and as we're walking to it I pull her close and start making out hard, frenching and grabbing her ass, then we get in the car and I park in a deserted lot since it's like 2-3 in the morning. Start chatting and kinda making out, but she won't even let me touch her boobs (no matter how much I pushed and pulled (probably need to work on overcoming LMR, but I think she just might be trying to BF/friend zone me...). ARound 4 she says she needs to get back, while we drive back I'm feeling up her leg n shit and she seems pretty into me. We say we'll hangout later that week but she flakes on dinner again (I just say no worries
), texted her again to hangout on Sunday (with a "what's your sched like this week", but it was finals for her and while she said she was down her timing didn't work out for me (because I said I didn't want her just running off like our first date). She said "well then this week def won't work out sooooo", I got kind of annoyed and was in a bad mood and let it show, saying something along the lines of "well it doesn't seem like you're that interested in me so when that changes feel free to hmu". Felt that was a shitty way to end the interaction I'd already partly invested in -_-, so the next day I texted her saying "Sorry about yesterday, I'd love for you to text me after finals ", got no response. So I thought that was the end of the interaction, buuuuut I decided to just see what was up, called her 2 days ago, we chatted for a bit with me saying "Hey I hope that I didn't push you in the wrong direction, I'm still interested in getting to know you better", she says "You didn't I've just been really stressed with finals" (she does take school seriously). I say "we should hangout this weekend but if you're still busy with your finals, I can hit you up next week", she says "she'll probably be busy so next week would work better but she'll let me know about the weekend", I say "No worries I'll hit ya up next week if I don't hear from you over the weekend". Didn't contact me over the weekend (not expecting it either haha, I was out running night game/partying/gym ratting doing more important things).
Some final thoughts on this: She's fucked a couple of my friends (and one enemy). Don't know the story with 2 of them (one a DJ and my former business partner in the Nightclub business I ran, the other one a pretty boy who's kind of part of our social circle). The third one is a fat kid with a nice car who apparently "was super nice to her and that's why she liked him", lol the first night I met her (couple months ago), we actually (as in everyone at the party) heard them fucking upstairs LMAO. The last one isn't a friend, he's a douchey Persian kid that's a couple years younger than me (she liked him for his intelligence), even though he's super creepy, hits on her 15 year old sister etc. He threatened to knock me out at a kickback we were at in between the first and second date (not to my face as I'm MUCH bigger than him/plus he knows I have plenty of backup, the guy he told that too literally laughed in his face and said I'd slaughter him). I just played it cool because I didn't really care I had other girls anyway lol (and still do). I don't care all that much about this girl, but as I'm a beginner I'm trying to understand women a bit better, what could be going on in this situation? Why won't she let me get farther than touching her boobs when she's already fucked 4 people I know? Keep in mind I don't know the story on the other guys (not that it matters, can't compare myself to other people anyway because we're not in the same situation, I just don't know how long it took them to sleep together or whatever). I do know that fat guy and persian guy both chased her a lot before they finally got her, and both wanted to date her but she wouldn't date either of them. Dunno about the other 2 guys. I do know that all 4 of them did the party/drunk meeting "friends" hookup instead of the dates/hangouts sober.
Also kind of important, she knows I'm a bit more successful as far as school/work/keeping in shape than all of the other guys, but we've only been on two dates, so... I couldn't be BF zoned already yeah? Friend zoning maybe? Trying not to look slutty? Again I'm not super into this girl (even though she's quite sexy, Brunette Americanized Italian who ran XC and also seriously modeled for a year) it just seemed to be a solid option, and now I'm not sure. I hate wasting my time so... Am I expecting to much too fast? A lot of the first date sex I used to get was from either when I had MASSIVE social power from running the nightclubs/parties, or the girls (and myself) were a AT LEAST a little tipsy. Hasn't always been like that I've fucked a few sober girls on the first date so I know my game isn't completely horrid, I understand I'm a beginner and may be expecting too much to fast.
Wanted some feedback from the community
Edit: Forgot to add I noticed that she is one of the first to view my snapchat stories every time I post something new, I know 17 year old girls do tend to watch everyones snapchat anyway but..... could be a factor in my favor? Who knows!
