Okay to lie about my politics to sleep with her?

[L8D8]

A couple of weeks ago I was exchanging messages with a woman I met online and it was going well. I let on that I voted for the other candidate whereupon she ghosted me. I am in contact with another such women but this time I lied and said I voted for her candidate.

I read where Chase choses not to lie to women and I generally have the same policy. However, politics seems different. What's wrong with a little white lie if you want to pursue a particular woman? I remember 25 years ago when different political affiliations was not even a yellow flag.

Also, I am currently tempted to lie about my relationship intentions with a couple of women to whom I am not attracted. Definitely not GF material but I am in a drought and not feeling particularly ethical.

 

[Skills]

Why are you discussing politics with women how does that in any way is a seductive topic... Retarded

Socializing - You need to be able to control yourself boys when it comes to subjects...

My facebook, is full of people that can not control themselves, and is just pure trolling is women and men alike (they are posting to trigger the other side)... Started with the black lives matter, then with the election, now with the trump..... I dated a girl for 10 years, her family was hard...

www.skilledseducer.com

To your other point read this:

Date Plans - The lover provider balance keep it ambiguous - troubleshooting

So guys i get many pms, and i see posts about lover provider a lot, people misunderstand the whole thing, this is one of the topics people don't get due to nuances. Ok the lover provider stuff has been discussed to death, and yes it is important, super important..... But as always there are...

www.skilledseducer.com

 

[James D]

Unless you know exactly what you're doing, never discuss politics and religion.

 

[Chase]

This whole "women on dating apps screening men on politics" stuff has gotten completely retarded.


You can't respond to this stuff seriously.

My preferred answer to women screening on politics is, "I don't vote. I'm waiting for the West to collapse so I can lead a band of raiders unopposed by government forces."

Chase

 

[Swati]

This whole "women on dating apps screening men on politics" stuff has gotten completely retarded.

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You can't respond to this stuff seriously.

My preferred answer to women screening on politics is, "I don't vote. I'm waiting for the West to collapse so I can lead a band of raiders unopposed by government forces."

Chase

39 going on about reproductive rights !!! ROFL I'm FUCKING DYING!!!!!!

 

[Warped Mindless]

Like others said, don’t bring it up.

interesting related story: My buddy is the public face of a business he owns that specifically has products that caters towards republicans. In other words, it’s very obvious he’s a Republican and he can’t really hide it for any women who is in his area or checks social media or googles his name.

Years ago he was into PUA stuff and got very good at it. Never had any problems getting laid with women 18 - 25.

Now? He doesn’t even bother with women in his city unless they are republican. Most of the women he meets and lays (he is in an open relationship so he’s not doing a ton anyways) comes from social circle where the women he meets are republican or just doesn’t care about politics at all.

When he travels and the girls don’t recognize him, he can still pull women from day game and night game without much trouble. But in his own city? Nope! Most younger women in the USA have been brainwashed into hating anyone to the right of Obama. If they know you are republican before you get a chance to game then they have an immediate negative knee jerk reaction to you. To them you are evil and vile and they aren’t giving you the time of day.

Since my politics are not public I just lie to women about not giving a shit about politics. If it’s a one night stand type deal they never find out. If they become a regular thing, by the time they find out, it doesn’t matter because they already “know” me and they make an exception for me.

Long story short, just fucking lie.

 

[POB]

I just say "I'm neutral"
If they probe for more, I expain: "I've just quit believing in any of it because they let me down too many times in the past...but you are free to try to change my mind over a glass of wine"

 

[L8D8]

Thanks everybody for the top tier advice. I suppose I am just looking for affirmation to be less than totally honest with women. It's safe to say that Warped Mindless (WM) gave me the green light on that Women seem to be comfortable lying directly to our faces but they are much better at rationalization than us.

My post was about lying to women specifically about politics but it is really about just being less than truthful to them in general. I've taken the high road all of my life and gotten some really compatible women, but also frustration and blue balls. After getting burned a couple of times this year I'm more inclined to take WM's advice and "just fucken lie". I'll combine that with POB's plot twist to let her win ME over!!

By the way, the latest woman opened me online with:

HB: "Hi L8D8, Socially liberal by chance?" [NOTE: I describe myself as "conservative" on my dating profile]
L8D8: "Hello HB, Yes, socially liberal, especially concerning the environment. And you, fiscally conservative?

She called me last night and we set up a date for the 27th. She texted me again this morning probing my politics. She has referred to me as handsome, intelligent, and has said she is attracted to me. I am fairly certain that I could take her to bed but am concerned that I will misplay this and let the truth slip out.

 

[Conquistador]

Why are you discussing politics with women how does that in any way is a seductive topic... Retarded

Socializing - You need to be able to control yourself boys when it comes to subjects...

My facebook, is full of people that can not control themselves, and is just pure trolling is women and men alike (they are posting to trigger the other side)... Started with the black lives matter, then with the election, now with the trump..... I dated a girl for 10 years, her family was hard...

www.skilledseducer.com

To your other point read this:

Date Plans - The lover provider balance keep it ambiguous - troubleshooting

So guys i get many pms, and i see posts about lover provider a lot, people misunderstand the whole thing, this is one of the topics people don't get due to nuances. Ok the lover provider stuff has been discussed to death, and yes it is important, super important..... But as always there are...

www.skilledseducer.com

Sometimes these days girls do press the issue to screen specifically for it though.

 

[gameboy]

NOTE: I describe myself as "conservative" on my dating profile

That's why.

Try removing it and see if you get better results.

 

[Skills]

Thanks everybody for the top tier advice. I suppose I am just looking for affirmation to be less than totally honest with women. It's safe to say that Warped Mindless (WM) gave me the green light on that Women seem to be comfortable lying directly to our faces but they are much better at rationalization than us.

My post was about lying to women specifically about politics but it is really about just being less than truthful to them in general. I've taken the high road all of my life and gotten some really compatible women, but also frustration and blue balls. After getting burned a couple of times this year I'm more inclined to take WM's advice and "just fucken lie". I'll combine that with POB's plot twist to let her win ME over!!

By the way, the latest woman opened me online with:

HB: "Hi L8D8, Socially liberal by chance?" [NOTE: I describe myself as "conservative" on my dating profile]
L8D8: "Hello HB, Yes, socially liberal, especially concerning the environment. And you, fiscally conservative?

She called me last night and we set up a date for the 27th. She texted me again this morning probing my politics. She has referred to me as handsome, intelligent, and has said she is attracted to me. I am fairly certain that I could take her to bed but am concerned that I will misplay this and let the truth slip out.

Brah are the girls you are going after blue hair from reddit, i mean jesus! and why the autism, of this [NOTE: I describe myself as "conservative" on my dating profile]

^ retarded!

There is no need to lie cause it may come across as incongruent and i can tell you will fuck this up, by betraying your micro expressions in person, or by betraying yourself in the way you text...

no need to lie, similar to pob and chase "i am independent and try to take my time and vote for whoever is best the candidate for the position regardless of party" anyways, so tell me how are guys treating you here??? or but anyways, just curious what are your 2 best qualities that have nothing to do with your appearance, or anyways, just curious how happy are you in life from 1 to 10, 10 being best??

address the issue take control of convo, go back into straight line on dating apps, lead to seductive crap.... jesus!

 

[Skills]

Sometimes these days girls do press the issue to screen specifically for it though.

and??? brah read my last entry... girls press about everything?? are you single? are you sleeping around? do you believe in the lord and savior??? do you plan to have kids??? do you plan to get marry or are you here for hook ups?? and the rest of the none sense, they press and i press my dick deep inside the pussy walls....

 

[jackgignac]

They usually already can tell by your phenotype.

 

[L8D8]

*Follow up on date with liberal woman on Dec 27th*
We met at a restaurant and I was immediately let down because she was chubby. We had a interesting and flowing conversation and we made light of the subject of politics, that wasn't a problem. She described how she exercises and eats healthy food so I figure maintaining weight is always a struggle for her. Unlike many of you, I just can't motivate myself to escalate if I'm not attracted to a woman. Early on in the date I decided to practice my fundamentals and develop attraction. However, when I got home I read Chases' article about the 12 mistakes men make with women. Suffice it to say that I made several major mistakes during the date. I started it off with a hug and later we high-fived. The conversation was interesting but was more oriented to one with a close male friend. Afterwards, I walked her to her car, gave her another hug and dry kiss on the lips. Oh well, I learned some valuable lessons.

Ironically, I had a second date with a conservative Korean woman on the 26th. I did a much better job escalating but met some stiff resistance. I invited myself in to her house after our hike and proceeded to sit on her couch. She sat on a different couch and I couldn't get her to sit next to me, no compliance. She said she wasn't ready yet and suggested maybe next time I came over.

The major lesson I've learned on here and GC is that an abundance mentality is of critical importance. I am currently dating 4 women, no lays yet, so I feel relaxed when I'm with any of them. I come off a lot smoother and more confident when having options. Next Friday I have another date and she is probably my best prospect. I do feel a little pressure to sleep with her before her attraction window closes.

Thanks to all of you who have given me such good advice. It's not always easy to hear but I appreciate the constructive criticism.

 

[Swift]

Why are you discussing politics with women how does that in any way is a seductive topic... Retarded

Socializing - You need to be able to control yourself boys when it comes to subjects...

My facebook, is full of people that can not control themselves, and is just pure trolling is women and men alike (they are posting to trigger the other side)... Started with the black lives matter, then with the election, now with the trump..... I dated a girl for 10 years, her family was hard...

www.skilledseducer.com

To your other point read this:

Date Plans - The lover provider balance keep it ambiguous - troubleshooting

So guys i get many pms, and i see posts about lover provider a lot, people misunderstand the whole thing, this is one of the topics people don't get due to nuances. Ok the lover provider stuff has been discussed to death, and yes it is important, super important..... But as always there are...

www.skilledseducer.com

I was about to ask the same thing and saw Skills already did.

Avoid the topic entirely.

Only you can decide whether lying is right or wrong based on your own personal values. Seeking moral advice externally is not gonna help. What if everyone says its okay to lie about politics and it really bothers you when you do it?

 

[L8D8]

Good point Swift about seeking, or not, moral advice on the internet. Tis better to equivocate, deflect, then escalate when with a cute but silly woman!

 

[jackgignac]

I was about to ask the same thing and saw Skills already did.

Avoid the topic entirely.

Only you can decide whether lying is right or wrong based on your own personal values. Seeking moral advice externally is not gonna help. What if everyone says its okay to lie about politics and it really bothers you when you do it?

Lies of permission are better than lies of omission.

 

[ChrisVirtue]

Like others said, don’t bring it up.

interesting related story: My buddy is the public face of a business he owns that specifically has products that caters towards republicans. In other words, it’s very obvious he’s a Republican and he can’t really hide it for any women who is in his area or checks social media or googles his name.

Years ago he was into PUA stuff and got very good at it. Never had any problems getting laid with women 18 - 25.

Now? He doesn’t even bother with women in his city unless they are republican. Most of the women he meets and lays (he is in an open relationship so he’s not doing a ton anyways) comes from social circle where the women he meets are republican or just doesn’t care about politics at all.

When he travels and the girls don’t recognize him, he can still pull women from day game and night game without much trouble. But in his own city? Nope! Most younger women in the USA have been brainwashed into hating anyone to the right of Obama. If they know you are republican before you get a chance to game then they have an immediate negative knee jerk reaction to you. To them you are evil and vile and they aren’t giving you the time of day.

Since my politics are not public I just lie to women about not giving a shit about politics. If it’s a one night stand type deal they never find out. If they become a regular thing, by the time they find out, it doesn’t matter because they already “know” me and they make an exception for me.

Long story short, just fucking lie.

Isn't the pendulum swinging a bit now due to Trump winning the popular vote ?

 

[jackgignac]

Isn't the pendulum swinging a bit now due to Trump winning the popular vote ?

& Justin Trudeau resigned.