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stinsonjr said:
Roosh pisses me off, guys.
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All of these articles are meant to hate American Women. Though, he mainly seem to be focused on Club going girls.
I need your thoughts on this, guys.
American club-going women predominantly go out with friends to see and be seen, and treat nightclubs as status vehicles. Clubs for them, then, are essentially real life versions of Facebook.
Many of the experienced club girls you will meet (maybe 80% of the women in any average club?) have few compunctions about using the men who approach them in these environments to elevate their own statuses, since that's primarily what they're there for. So you can think of it this way:
- Men --> in clubs for sex with women
- Women --> in clubs for status boosts from men
If a man is attractive or high status enough, the biggest value he offers to a girl in a nightclub is his sex / genes.
But USUALLY, his biggest offer to her is as someone to elevate her status over, by rejecting on or soon into his approach.
He walks up to her, opens her, she rejects him, and she gets to show all her friends how desired and high status and elite she is. Meanwhile, the guy slinks off, onto the next girl.
People humiliating you for their own gain will embitter you toward them quickly, and you will find lots of men from just about every country who pursue women in nightclub-like environments (or similar status-focused environments - social circle can be this way in certain countries, too; school's a big one) becoming quite bitter toward their countrywomen for treating them as ladder rungs to climb upon.
This is also why the larger and closer the group, the less likely you are to pull from it, and the ruder the girls in it will tend to be. The nicest girls you'll meet in nightclubs are solo or with just one friend, because they're more on your wavelength and are looking for an attractive man they connect with, rather than men they can use for status boosts, since when they're out solo or in a duo there's not much point in jockeying for status (no one who'll be much influenced by watching her roundly reject some guys is present -- if that's all she's out for, she won't go out by herself or with just one or two friends).
The exception is big party groups of girls who are short on men - these will often treat you very well if you come in and are attractively presented and seem like a lot of fun. But this isn't because they're sexually interested (usually), but because they need a man like you for more "fun" and to elevate the status of their group - a group of just cool girls is lower status than a group of cool girls + cool guys.
Nightclub game, unless you're being extremely targeted in your approaching, is mostly a game of doing your best to avoid the (majority) of the women who will happily treat you with a show of disdain in order to raise their status at the expense of yours, and find the handful of women there who will actually be into you.
Additionally, the kinds of women you'll meet in nightclubs aren't exactly the most standout members of a given society's womenfolk:
Why I Quit Dating Girls Who Club, Party, or Drink.
Anyway, most of the guys who approach hardcore in clubs become very bitter and/or very jaded. It was difficult for me to avoid this myself (being a longtime club guy), and I only managed to do so by 1.) being very conscious of not wanting to become bitter, and 2.) mixing in plenty of other kinds of game where women aren't competing to stomp their heels in your face for a minor status boost. Men who've mostly met women via nightlife also get exposed to the basest behavior, too - blatant cheating, promiscuousness, ruthless social ladder climbing, backstabbing, lying, women using men for drinks, girls hooking up with some guy they just met in the bathroom or alley, then going back to their boyfriends acting like nothing happened, etc. Hard for most guys to come away from that with healthy, respectful views of women, since their views of women are so warped by what extreme women in the most extreme social environments on Earth do.
Chase
