Pandora's Box- Vin Dicarlo. Scam or real?

[Ezio]

I got to this accidentally, i searched in google and some people are saying it works, some saying that it doesn't.

The way they present it, it seems like it promises a lot.

I would want to know if this product or technique, whatever you call, is real or scam.

Have you heard about this before? What do you think about it?

 

[trashKENNUT]

Ezio,

Try it before. I learn a bit about it. It actually is for advanced guys. They offer cold reading information, and learning women's patterns from guidelines, like Tester, Denier and etc.

It works but also i met women who is in between both "tester" and the other side.

Use this as passive screening. It's good but not all women fit the guidelines.

Zac

 

[Ezio]

Hello, Zac!

Thanks for your reply!

I wanna ask if you have had the system yourself and actually tested it. Especially the video part. This system comes with 11 video parts.
I just got the PDF book and i just started downloading the video of this system, but there where i am downloading it, some guys are claiming that it is a scam. Here are their comments:

GUY 1:

What the hell do you mean it works because the guy stopped having sex to write it, and the women agreed to let him out of bed? Are you a moron? That doesn't even make sense. Obviously you're unfamiliar with the material itself, having not even listened to it.

So what if the guy stopped having sex... what does that have to do with anyone else having sex? Duh... and women "letting him out of bed" are you nuts or what...? Where did you ever get that idea to begin with? How could a woman keep him from getting out of bed and leaving? it certainly is nothing DiCarlo ever reported, nor any of the women he interviewed ever even remotely came close to stating. In fact, none of the women he interviewed even slept with him at all.

So, having said that, let me say that I have listened to the material, and to begin with it bored me to death. Interviews with 8 or 9 different women, all chit chatting about what they like and don't like... boring as hell. I didn't find it to be instructional in the least.

As far as the three questions you can ask any women that instantly make her want to sleep with you... that was never even touched on.

So, no, after having wasted like 10 hours listening to this material I found it to be an absolute and total, complete waste of time.

As one who's actually listened to the materal, I can say that it's 100% guaranteed to not work, and is designed solely to generate income for DiCarlo and those affiliate marketers hoping to tap into the burgeoning PUA and Seduction market client base.

If anyone else has actually put in the time to listen to these boring interviews and found by some miracle that they got profoundly different results, please feel free to share your experience with others who are interested in possibly listening to this material. But personally, it found it to be an absolute waste of my time and effort from start to finish.

GUY 2:

Thanks for double confirming it man !!

yes this shit dont work no magic.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Ezio,

I didnt buy it. I just test it out. Got frustrated and stop. Haha

I learn some of it from YouTube. At the time, there were some videos there. I'm not sure if they are still there.

Zac

 

[Ezio]

Why did you get frustrated man?

 

[trashKENNUT]

Ezio,

You trying to put women in a box, in a way. Women are not exactly simple. Desires and wants, sure. But as the person itself, people are complex.

Zac

 

[Ezio]

Okay guys, if anyone was reading and following this topic and is eager to know the answer to my question, then here i give you my conclusion that I came to after reading this book and its philosophy.

The conclusion is that theoretically it works! And it is no scam. But it is a book that requires to practice it a lot so you can fully own it but if you nail it down, it will be worth it. It also requires a lot of patience to internalize and understand it.

I am very but very sure it will work if you put it in practice. I have not done so myself yet, because i have some other priorities at the current moment.

As this book requires a lot practicing, it already assumes that you are past approach anxiety and you do not have it difficult meeting and approaching women. So, i would suggest it for intermediates and above, but it would serve the beginners just as a good read for now as well.

Zac said that "It's good but not all women fit the guidelines.", but actually i think that maybe all the women will fit to it, you just have to make the calculations right.

One thing that is interesting about this book is that it reveals that a lot of GirlsChase philosophy is based on it. While reading the book, some things came to me like a second-read because i already heard or read about it in GirlsChase.

Very recommended.

-Ezio

 

[ray_zorse]

Dude keep in mind you will never actually be past approach anxiety, even experienced seducers get it. I suffer from very lirtle AA in general because I make approaching a daily habit, however I recently had a bad cold (runny nose, streaming eyes, sore throat etc for a week) and this always fucks me up totally, when I feel strong enough to approach again I feel a lot of AA and it can take me up to a week to regain momentum. For instance today only did about 5 approaches and no numbers, spent a lot of time in conversation but failed to screen effectively for interest etc, so it was a waste. There were tons of others I wanted to approach but did not.
Ray

 

[Ezio]

Well, Ray, i did not mean it literally.

What i wanted to say was that you should at least be somewhat comfortable interacting with women.

 

[Reave Krieger]

Hi Ezio,

I bought and read / watched the program as well because of the GC newsletter in which Chase recommended "Pandora's Box". I totally go along with your review and it definitely is for advanced guys. My only remaining question about this program (I didn't watch the interview videos with the different women though):

Do I ask a woman certain questions to identify her type OR do I identify her type just by observing her actions?

Hopefully you can answer this question...

 

[Reave Krieger]

Anyone?

Can anyone else answer my question?

 

[Orelfius]

I've read an extract of the Pandora box.

My opinion: it's a model to represent how women are. I think it's not a good model tough. It's not that it's not accurate or anything like that but it doesn't seem really useful, really action-oriented. You know that the girl is an experimenter now what? And even if you memorize all the various models and follow all the recommendations there (which seems quite a lot to memorize), it won't works: a handful of character descriptions is not enough to cover the variety of human behaviours.

I rather prefer to learn how to tell a good story or learn tactics to deal with social interaction than trying to have the "fit all" answer ( that usually never works).

 

[Estate]

Haven't read it. But been around this stuff for years now... even product feels the same to me. Theres probably some good info in here if applied right, but usually you can learn whatever is in it for free online anyway and there's no such thing as a "magic bullet".

 

[Ezio]

Hey, guys!

I thought this topic was dead. I did not see the 2016 replies. Sorry for the delay!

@jumok93,

If you are still around, then here is my answer:

I think you should do both. Observing and asking. Both work!


@Orelfius,

I don't know what your level of "game" is, but I think this program makes more sense in the more advanced sphere.

I agree that not every woman is the same, not all people are the same, that there are so many varieties but at the end, we are all humans, slaves to the same underlying biological and psychological procceses, which means that our unpredictable behaviours get narrowed at some point and you have more probability to make the right guesses or narrowing people to a certain number of models.

Although, I have already said it is not easy to implement that. It takes work and dedication and after all, it is just a path of so many others.

@Estate

I agree.