People with 'respectable' job fields or work at prestigious companies, how is your seduction life?

[Skills]

This is another one of the community theory with nuances, causes people to go into causation correlation and total mental masturbation.... as a matter of fact i inflate my professional success a LOT to women 0 issues.. so i am going to tell you how it works:

- if you have prestigious job and you tell it to the girl in a want to impress way you are fucked specially if you brag about it...

- most guys with money and prestigious job even seducers get lazy and revert to no game but start leading with money...

2 professions that put you in provider land as kneejerk reaction are lawyer and doctor/dentist only so you got to reframe them and you are fine:

- i am in the healthcare field dealing with patients woth hormone issues but my true passion is to be rachel future lover, please dont tell her

- i am in the legal field dealing with bankrpcies """""::::::::same as above....


This whole thread mental bukakee....

 

[Beck Bass]

I think most people with "prestigious" jobs are just the people that follow the rules to a fault (Asian cultures comes to mind, but there's a ton of white people on the West like this). They get the "nice" generic job they always wanted, but then it's boring and they think all their lives are sorted after that, and of course it isn't. Picking up women has nothing to so with being able to follow rules and "being decent enough" at something... If anything, discipline and drive can make you excel with women on the long run, but most people that excel at something won't be happy with a conventional boring-ass "respectable" job anyway.

This whole thread mental bukakee....

Sometimes is nice to fuck some brains, heh?
I do agree a bit though, job has nothing to do with pickup for the most part.

As @Chase wrote lawyers tend to do better than most because they are gung ho social people for the most part, and that's useful for seduction, but other than that, having a nice job doesn't garanteed anything (other than maybe you spent a bit too much effort in your career and not enough in other parts of your life).

 

[Chase]

[everyone here with conclusions other than mine is wrong]

Tell us how you really feel, man.

Just one question:

people to go into causation correlation and total mental masturbation.... as a matter of fact i inflate my professional success a LOT to women

^ what is the reason for inflating your professional success a lot to women re: cause/correlation?

 

[Skills]

Tell us how you really feel, man.

Just one question:



^ what is the reason for inflating your professional success a lot to women re: cause/correlation?

When you are older with some women as you know is expected a certain level of success etc... with certain demographics if i feel this is the case based on the dynamic i take that out of the way and then i bait and switch....

hb:what do you do for work?

me: I work with microsoft cloud biz services, i also have couple of Real Estate biz, and I coach men how to be attractive, but my main profession is Reba future lover

^ never had issues

For years most naturals have inflated jobs (tom lyikes used to even teach this back in the day, and naturals used to do it) "if you work at macdonalds tell them you own the macdonalds" "if you live in a shit whole, tell them temporary till you mansion is built" there were dudes are a club called "credit card millionares" i mean i don't like this type of game.... But i had wins with money such as primo (who does a water down version of dan bilizirian)......

The community is full of rich seducers if i recall: the thin man, black dragon, there are couple on this site i forgot their name, razor jack... they don't down play but they play to the rich ceo stereotype mr big....

The tinder swindler whole game (anybody can that movie in netflix) was to fake super success, a lot of naturals do this, girls get drawn to the bait, they fuck them and then, "oh my bad" has been done for years....

The problem most guys have is that they "talk about the prestigious job" and stay on the subject a bit too much, do not come across as lovers or if they do is post she had made up her mine provider based on the job title (but this does not have to happen)

or you are leading with money (this happened to me when i had money) sometimes people don't know they are doing it...


Again this post is another of those buggie man causation corralation stuff... though yea a lawyer and doctor they totally need to down play or senator etc... and change subject but after investment they can come clean once they come across as lover and not a simp...

 

[climbingup]

Wouldn't more money/respectable job mean less financial worries and more carefree, therefore easier to get girls or is that not really the case?

I do understand that a high paying job will tend to have more hours and therefore less time to chat/pull girls

 

[ulrich]

Wouldn't more money/respectable job mean less financial worries and more carefree, therefore easier to get girls or is that not really the case?

I do understand that a high paying job will tend to have more hours and therefore less time to chat/pull girls

In theory yes… but when we talk about “respectable” jobs, sometimes your typical office job gets in the mix.
That is an important distinction.

Your typical office job may get you some financial security at the cost of significant time investment, lower freedom and a position in a fictional hierarchy that doesn’t translate well to seduction.
It’s pros and cons but the only clear pro is a monthly check.
For most girls, that is not impressive at all.

 

[Chase]

@Skills,

Yeah, I have 'inflator' natural friends. Also some who never bother with it.

I think a lot of this comes down to how you present yourself, as well as whether you are motivated to learn & calibrate to 'successful guy game'.

Presentation-wise, I already present as a successful, skeptical guy. There is no way I have been able to make listing out a bunch of success credentials come across congruent. Same as if you approached a hot girl in a red dress at a high end club and asked her what she does and she starts listing out this list of things... "Well I'm a model... I'm also a children's book author... I run a charity... oh and I teach yoga classes..." guys are either going to feel really intimidated by this haughty girl who is also in addition successful in all these different ways or they're going to ask themselves why this seemingly-elite girl is immediately qualifying herself to a stranger when at first she seemed so haughty.

That is my experience. If I tell her "Oh I do this... I also do that... and I have this!... oh but don't worry [self-deprecating humor], haha," women either clam up super-intimidated or they act like I incongruently qualified myself.

What does work:

Her: What do you do?​

​

Me: I'm a writer.​

​

Her: What do you write?​

​

Me: Fiction for fun. Marketing to pay the bills. I do all right. [smile and wink]​

If I don't underplay success, women just get blown out, or else they start behaving weird.

I will also say that when I have tried it, or stumbled into it, successful guy game obviously comes with a few benefits:

• Raised attraction
• Raised respect
• Raised early compliance

However it also comes with drawbacks:

• Lowered spontaneity
• Lowered honesty
• Lowered casualness
• A compliance wall that goes up in later stages of the interaction

You can probably calibrate your game around these drawbacks and learn to run successful guy game in a way that gets around most of that.

Personally I'm not especially motivated to learn it, since I don't need it, and there's obviously a decent-sized learning curve.

I also (just personally) do not want to deal with people knowing I am successful.

The kinds of girls who need you to totally spell it out for them... I prefer to keep those chicks at arm's length, just personally.

I've spent enough time around my inflator friends with the women they usually have around. Sure, they lay regular chicks sometimes, but inflator guys tend to attract girls who are most attracted to inflator guys. Usually these girls want nothing to do with me, until one of my inflator buddies starts talking up my credentials. Then, all of a sudden, these girls who were ice cold to me are super friendly, showing all this interest they did not have before, and it all feels super fake. I have on several occasions told inflator friends "Don't tell girls anything about me, please. I don't want women knowing anything about my work or success or anything. Just tell them I'm a bum if they start asking. Or say I work in marketing."

I don't know why "inflator girls" aren't able to pick up on subtle signs that a guy is probably successful like other women can. Maybe they are just around too many guys who make it too overt that their radars lose sensitivity. Or maybe they just never had sensitive radars, and that's why they need to go for guys who make it obvious.

Chase

 

[Skills]

@Skills,

Yeah, I have 'inflator' natural friends. Also some who never bother with it.

I think a lot of this comes down to how you present yourself, as well as whether you are motivated to learn & calibrate to 'successful guy game'.

Presentation-wise, I already present as a successful, skeptical guy. There is no way I have been able to make listing out a bunch of success credentials come across congruent. Same as if you approached a hot girl in a red dress at a high end club and asked her what she does and she starts listing out this list of things... "Well I'm a model... I'm also a children's book author... I run a charity... oh and I teach yoga classes..." guys are either going to feel really intimidated by this haughty girl who is also in addition successful in all these different ways or they're going to ask themselves why this seemingly-elite girl is immediately qualifying herself to a stranger when at first she seemed so haughty.

That is my experience. If I tell her "Oh I do this... I also do that... and I have this!... oh but don't worry [self-deprecating humor], haha," women either clam up super-intimidated or they act like I incongruently qualified myself.

What does work:

Her: What do you do?​

​

Me: I'm a writer.​

​

Her: What do you write?​

​

Me: Fiction for fun. Marketing to pay the bills. I do all right. [smile and wink]​

If I don't underplay success, women just get blown out, or else they start behaving weird.

I will also say that when I have tried it, or stumbled into it, successful guy game obviously comes with a few benefits:

• Raised attraction
• Raised respect
• Raised early compliance

However it also comes with drawbacks:

• Lowered spontaneity
• Lowered honesty
• Lowered casualness
• A compliance wall that goes up in later stages of the interaction

You can probably calibrate your game around these drawbacks and learn to run successful guy game in a way that gets around most of that.

Personally I'm not especially motivated to learn it, since I don't need it, and there's obviously a decent-sized learning curve.

I also (just personally) do not want to deal with people knowing I am successful.

The kinds of girls who need you to totally spell it out for them... I prefer to keep those chicks at arm's length, just personally.

I've spent enough time around my inflator friends with the women they usually have around. Sure, they lay regular chicks sometimes, but inflator guys tend to attract girls who are most attracted to inflator guys. Usually these girls want nothing to do with me, until one of my inflator buddies starts talking up my credentials. Then, all of a sudden, these girls who were ice cold to me are super friendly, showing all this interest they did not have before, and it all feels super fake. I have on several occasions told inflator friends "Don't tell girls anything about me, please. I don't want women knowing anything about my work or success or anything. Just tell them I'm a bum if they start asking. Or say I work in marketing."

I don't know why "inflator girls" aren't able to pick up on subtle signs that a guy is probably successful like other women can. Maybe they are just around too many guys who make it too overt that their radars lose sensitivity. Or maybe they just never had sensitive radars, and that's why they need to go for guys who make it obvious.

Chase

Yeah i agree, my main problem with the thread and answers giving mostly in this post and why i am being negative about the whole thing...is that all these guys with prestigios jobs or success will start lying or fucking around with the: cetified dishwasher, boy toy, ass modelsetc...

And will never answer at this point since they keep plowing with stuff girl think they are lying, the gard goes up...

Again yes i play arond with stripper, boy toy, whatever her name future lover but then i go into a brief calibrated description vague of what i really do and flip it to her "how about you"

Having success is a dhv, to women... again the problem is not really the success of profession or prestigious job(to be honest a lot of guys in the community succesful), problem is how you come across..

My point about guys inflating professions was just an illustration of an example that having success (to back up my claim it does not really matter)... maybe it was not the right sample... success is attractive, now success coming across bragging, leading with money, simping, courtship seduction obviously unatractive and this should be the focus no hidden your success and professional life but present it in the right way so you dont attract gold diggers, or you dont get lump as provider... plus girls really dont care about this again only really 2 profession need reframing cause have a provider connotation lawyer and doctor...

 

[Beck Bass]

A compliance wall that goes up in later stages of the interaction

Yup, this big. Sacrificing some late game for some cheap boost early isn't quite worth, in my opinion, if your fundamentals over all are there already. If you're a sexy enough guy and have decent game, you won't be needing to show success to boost your chances for the most part. Showing it silently, through your actions, fashion, voice, posture and whatnot, comes across as way less effort. Of course some women are all for providers and couldn't care if you're the boss socially/sexually, but I guess most of those are to be avoided anyway (that's my opinion, of course).

The girl will inevitably put up a higher barrier for sex if she thinks you have higher value long term, specially financial value, since most men would trade money for sex at any given moment.

I don't know why "inflator girls" aren't able to pick up on subtle signs that a guy is probably successful like other women can. Maybe they are just around too many guys who make it too overt that their radars lose sensitivity. Or maybe they just never had sensitive radars, and that's why they need to go for guys who make it obvious.

Yeah, maybe it's a bit of a lack of experience or just... Intelligence, if I dare saying that. Those girls always turned me off though, I must say, but maybe some sex with them wouldn't hurt lol, it's just game I'm not into playing

Your typical office job may get you some financial security

Yeah, girls like security but they also like the thrill of spontaneity just as much, if not more, most girls (most people, let's be fair) have pretty boring lifes, money is generally not a big concern, unless she's like some homeless girl lol (women having more rights thanks to feminism makes money less of an issue for them for the most part, so most seek men for other reasons...)