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I remember doing these in classes in high school and university. Always interesting.

On a related note, a friend I visited in South Korea who at the time was teaching English showed me a magazine cover and asked me to tell him what I saw.

I said, "Well, there's a beach, a dog, a beach ball, an ocean, a boat, a blue sky, and a cloud."

And he said, "That's very interesting. Most Americans and Europeans would say the same thing. But if you ask a Korean, he or she would say, 'There's a dog sitting on the beach. The dog is looking at the cloud in the sky. There's a boat behind the dog, out on the ocean.' When Westerners look at things, they see discrete, individual items. When people from Asia look at things, though, they pay a lot more attention to the context: where is one thing in relation to others, what's it doing, etc."

It reminded me of a study (here) I saw that tracked eye movements of Americans and Chinese while looking at a picture of a tiger in a clearing. The Americans' eye movements tracked almost entirely on the tiger, while the Chinese's eye movements tracked all around the tiger, as well as on it. It turned out that the Americans zero in on looking at the individual elements, while the Chinese focus on how all the elements of the picture tie in together.

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Yeah I've spent a lot of time in and around Asia and what you said about them seeing the world differently is no surprise to me at all.

I find that my perepheral vision is quite good these days, and although generally my eyesight is quite poor I pickup on things (mainly girls checking me out TBH ;) ) that most people miss.
 

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In your opinion Chase, which type of eyesight is more useful (more like Asian or American)
 

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Whizzy said:
In your opinion Chase, which type of eyesight is more useful (more like Asian or American)

It is always better to have the ability to see the bigger picture.
 
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It depends wether you about to be mauled by a tiger or shot by a poacher I guess :)
 

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I dunno, personally the tiger mauling sounds cooler but that's just me
 

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Hey Whizzy,

Whizzy said:
In your opinion Chase, which type of eyesight is more useful (more like Asian or American)

I don't think there's actually a "better" here... you have two different adaptations that are probably better suited for their particular environments.

In Asian culture, subtext is very important... knowing the meaning behind the meaning. Much more is communicated through gestures and what is not said than what is said. If you're running solely off of what you see in an individual figure or item, you're going to have a lot of problems.

In Western culture, the whole subtext thing is largely nonexistent. People say what they mean and mean what they say, and if you spend a lot of time trying to read between the lines you're missing the forest for the trees.

There are similar differences in how cultures think dependent on the type of language. The kinds of music people make is also dependent on the range and tones used in a language. e.g., English composers and French composers compose in different ranges, because different ranges of music sound optimal to them (music essentially mimics human speech, in a weird way).

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Chase when you say gestures do you mean body language or just reading between the lines more so?
 

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Whizzy said:
Chase when you say gestures do you mean body language or just reading between the lines more so?

Could be a social gesture, could be a body language gesture. e.g., if you're having drinks with a group of older Asian businessmen and one of them gives you a big smile and says, "Drink more!" it will seem to you as a Westerner that he's just being really cool and inviting... how nice of him. But to an Asian person in the room, it's fairly clear that he's placing social pressure on you to conform to Asian business-drinking culture (Asian businessmen like to get drunk around each other as a sign of trust and honesty... that is, if you won't get drunk around someone, it may be assumed you have something to hide) and he's trying to exert dominance over you.

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