It's all about social IQ and good intentions, I think.
When people start shifting goal posts, rationalizing every counter-point and going 100% against everyone without addressing any of it; it stops being a debate but a pissing contest.
When a lot of high level dudes go on about something, it should be best to have a more mild mannered tone in your approach or your perspective. Just basic social calibration. I paraphrased my post on Naturals vs PUAs "in my limited experience" because it went against what some high level people above were espousing. I wasn't 100% sure of my observations anyway, it was just my experience. Cool, let me drop my piece but with some social finesse. That's all.
I'm new to this forum and people in my place just need some finesse when giving their piece, especially if it goes against the grain. If I go into a meeting with 10 20+ year business owners. I'm not gonna dominate the conversation, lol. I might have very different opinions but I'm gonna disqualify or qualify my opinions before giving them and make them softer. (ie: In my opinion, from my experience, it could be wrong but, this is what I think but I'm open to revisions, etc.)
I think many people who are into PU don't have good social IQ or they just want to dominate social settings without much regard for anything else. (Another very low value, needy behavior.) They usually don't have many friends, social circles/life or they aren't much integrated to the society and social fabric so they don't really know how to function with social finesse.
I disagreed with many people here but I know who had good intentions in those debates and who just wanted to win. Who I can argue with and who I can't.
This forum has INCREDIBLE value. The amount of 5+ year deep people that got success is insane. I just dove deep on some 2-3 year old posts. Let's not fuck it up for everyone else.
I think all one should do is drop your opinions with some finesse and disqualify them a little bit if they're so contentious (again, BASIC social IQ) and just have good intentions and be willing and open to learn, especially from legit dudes, instead of just blindly trying to put your mental framework into their heads. (Or simply just more agreeing to disagree after all the points have been made intead of just blindly butting heads.)