Probably missed escalation window and girl now giving IOIs to other guy.

[matty]

Theres this girl I meet regularly at the gym that I really like and I know she liked me too but me being still inexperienced was too timid and probably missed escalation window but Im not sure.Now theres other guy thats going after her and shes giving him iois (laughing at his jokes,eye contact/smile,bumps into him when they walk toward each other).Shes still friendly and talks to me but Im not sure if im now in the friendzone.She also randomly asked me where do I work (I dont know if it means anything and maybe it means nothing but I just thought of mentioning it anyway).

Did I loose her and theres no coming back or is there still something I can do?And how should I deal with the other guy( hes always there in the gym too).There is other girl that I can go to date with but I dont like her as much as this girl even if I slept with her.Is there a coming back and if so what should I do?And if theres no coming back I will still be meeting her regularly.How should I behave around her even after I move on?
Few things about me:Im actually a good looking guy with athletic/muscular body (i go to gym regularly) and with a handsome face.Id say Im 8/10 on the looks alone,not chaning tatum level but better looking then most average guys.However I was always shy and antisocial without any game which often ruined it for me and im still inexperienced.I have a little edge when it comes to looks but im still a noob in everything else and had plenty of missed opportunities with girls I actually could have.

 

[andersen09]

Theres this girl I meet regularly at the gym that I really like and I know she liked me too but me being still inexperienced was too timid and probably missed escalation window but Im not sure.Now theres other guy thats going after her and shes giving him iois (laughing at his jokes,eye contact/smile,bumps into him when they walk toward each other).Shes still friendly and talks to me but Im not sure if im now in the friendzone.She also randomly asked me where do I work (I dont know if it means anything and maybe it means nothing but I just thought of mentioning it anyway).

Did I loose her and theres no coming back or is there still something I can do?And how should I deal with the other guy( hes always there in the gym too).There is other girl that I can go to date with but I dont like her as much as this girl even if I slept with her.Is there a coming back and if so what should I do?And if theres no coming back I will still be meeting her regularly.How should I behave around her even after I move on?
Few things about me:Im actually a good looking guy with athletic/muscular body (i go to gym regularly) and with a handsome face.Id say Im 8/10 on the looks alone,not chaning tatum level but better looking then most average guys.However I was always shy and antisocial without any game which often ruined it for me and im still inexperienced.I have a little edge when it comes to looks but im still a noob in everything else and had plenty of missed opportunities with girls I actually could have.

So good looks and muscular body, all it does is it gets a girl intrigued about you and she wants to gauge where you're at in terms of value. So say you behave shy, antisocial, timid, slow, it'll lower your value a bit. And she'll be still friendly with you but not attracted like she would be to a guy that's on her level or higher in terms of overall value. (attractiveness, fundamentals, social skills, etc)

This other guy now probably has better fundamentals, more confident, etc. and she's starting to go with this guy by what you're telling me.

So first don't get discouraged because this happens to everyone who gets into the game. It's like playing a game of basketball. You'll show up to court and find that when you're brand new, there's always a guy better than you. And the way you get better is to see how the better guy plays and learn from him.

Good thing about you is that you have a natural advantage of having good looks and good physique, which tells alot to the girl before she speaks to you. It's way better than a guy who's ugly and sucks socially.

What I would say honestly, is to befriend this girl instead of trying to have sex with her. Put yourself in the friendzone. Because when you're inexperienced, it's best to just start befriending pretty girls in general around you and let yourself get comfortable with them psychologically.

This is for long term recommendation.

Second, actually go after the girl that's little bit lower value than her. What this does is it starts giving you more experience in general with women. If there's a girl lower in value, she'll give you more lee-way for mistake if that makes sense. And as you become more experienced, naturally you'll get better and better as your experience grows.

1. Befriend the 'higher value girl' and learn from the guy she's being attracted to
2. Try to go after the girl that you're not as interested in.