Special Girl Quick reminder of the difference of our community vs other communities (red pill, mgtow, black pill etc..)

[Skills]

So guys frequently you will see post like this or like this, as @Chase explains beautifully:

There are chicks you think are ride-or-die who turn tail and run or become the first one in line to knife you in the back when the chips are down.

Likewise, there are chicks you think would never stick around in a million years who end up having your back to the end.

Then there are the endlessly complex chicks, who will ditch you in some ways but have your back in others. Think of the chick who when you go to jail she divorces you and starts screwing someone else but she still keeps visiting you, topping up your canteen, and helping you fight your case. I've read numerous reports of women who do this; it does not seem to be that uncommon.

We all have been just like the other movements guys with women we thought were as chase explains "ride and die" and have been stabbed on the back by those same girls, now the wound of guys like us as i explained in the break up for secret society guys/seducers is a million times worst imo that for guys from those other movements cause again most of us think we know what we are doing and devote a lot of time to pick up, relationships, human psychology, we screen super hard, in other words we pick women from a group of women vs this is the best i can get.....


^ Now in every situation I met guys of the forum that were good seducers, it was beyond hard as fuck to take the pain (in some cases i thought "wtf dude aren't you a pimp",.... But, here is the million dollar difference, in every single of the seducers i know on and off the boards through the time i have been in the community, they all have this in common:

- They go through a tough pain, really devastating pain, even more painful that the normal civilian.
- They learn from it and analyze how can he could have done better.
- Instead of feeling sorry for themselves they start taking action to improve.
- They take the lessons from the experience and move on.

^ But the main thing that they do unlike the other movements, is that they don't get bitter, resentful and talk and focus on the WOMEN IS THE PROBLEM.... This is the biggest problem from all the other movements vs our community, they are constantly talking about the WOMEN IS THE PROBLEM part 90% of the time, and 10% about solutions/strategies, if any.

I do not regret any of my break ups or the women that screw me over(and it was baaaad), 0 regrets... They all taught me something and made me next time screen for better women.... Also they help me learn what i do not want again, vs what i want......

This is not only "women" there are shit: men, brothers, fathers, sisters, biz partners, friends, co-workers..... There are shit people and people that will hurt you in every face of life..... You will learn from those mistakes and relationships and if you lift your head up and become solution oriented vs problem oriented then you will become a better person for it.....

When i shit on the other movements is not cause a lot of what the say is not right or true, is they are hyper focus on the PROBLEM AND BLAME, i love the seduction community cause we are hyper focus on BEING SOLUTION ORIENTED AND SELF BLAME...

 

[Rakehell]

I do not regret any of my break ups or the women that screw me over(and it was baaaad), 0 regrets... They all taught me something and made me next time screen for better women.... Also they help me learn what i do not want again, vs what i want......

I Highly agree, I think the bitterness stems from not getting desired results (no abundance), and then getting hurt on top of that (girl cheating, leaving, etc).

Most of us can get pretty good results so when girls start acting like girls it doesn’t effect us negatively (because we understand how they are). We also get screwed over less because we know how to prevent or extinguish behavior, and when it happens we can only blame ourselves.

When girls start acting up with me now it’s usually because I get lazy or careless.

 

[MuST0BtA1NSkR1Lla]

Yeah I can say.

Im a trades person, the amount of divorced men who are getting all their money taken away is limitless.

I’ve stayed far far clear from the mindset of having any faith in women to do the correct motions in life. Ziltch.

Im surprised the women in the two other stories were even capable enough to go sell the gentlemen’s possessions, usually they are not.

Odd thing is besides one break up in my life Ive never had this huge issue of getting super attached and then screwed over for it, maybe it’s the abundance mindset?

 

[POB]

Every break-up that I had taught me a valuable life lesson!
You are 1000% right @Skills , people here are always solution-oriented, and that makes all the difference in the world!

I'm really thankful for being a part of this community for more than a decade.
The things I've learned here turned me into a better man (also a way better person in general).

We need this now more than ever that the world is turning to shit in this woke era.

 

[DonGately]

Also a good reminder you should always have a 'bench team' or backup girl ready to go if you're suddenly single. Because, for most girls, she sure as shit does.

 

[Skills]

@Troy

bump

 

[Skjöldr]

Yeah let's be honest, most women nowadays are not worth it (and neither are the men when you think about it tbh) and there are some pretty awful stories out there about women. But all the mgtow, incel, blackpill, redpill or whatever is just a pile of rageporn that keeps men in the victim role where life and women is something that just happens to them that they have no control over. Even if most women are trash that still means that there are some nice, sweet and beautiful women out there that wants a guy like ME. Even if those women are one in a thousand i will still keep grinding to get them.

That's why i don't care about rejection these days as well. I keep pushing through and i am gaming to find the beautiful girls that want me and the rest i don't even give a second thought. I go in respectfully, with sincerity, and i present myself openly (and i see myself as quite the catch) and if she rejects that, then she must simply be fucked in the head and bye bye to you and i'm on to the next one! That's how i look at it now.

 

[Starboy]

Yeah let's be honest, most women nowadays are not worth it (and neither are the men when you think about it tbh) and there are some pretty awful stories out there about women. But all the mgtow, incel, blackpill, redpill or whatever is just a pile of rageporn that keeps men in the victim role where life and women is something that just happens to them that they have no control over. Even if most women are trash that still means that there are some nice, sweet and beautiful women out there that wants a guy like ME. Even if those women are one in a thousand i will still keep grinding to get them.

That's why i don't care about rejection these days as well. I keep pushing through and i am gaming to find the beautiful girls that want me and the rest i don't even give a second thought. I go in respectfully, with sincerity, and i present myself openly (and i see myself as quite the catch) and if she rejects that, then she must simply be fucked in the head and bye bye to you and i'm on to the next one! That's how i look at it now.

I hope it's not the case and that the majority of women in today's society aren't trash and it's just that the worst kinds of women or the bad qualities of women just happen to be more highlighted than the good women. It's really hard to quantify this though because you can't really survey girls and ask them "are you a good girl" lol.

 

[moom]

Yeah I can say.

Im a trades person, the amount of divorced men who are getting all their money taken away is limitless.

I’ve stayed far far clear from the mindset of having any faith in women to do the correct motions in life. Ziltch.

Im surprised the women in the two other stories were even capable enough to go sell the gentlemen’s possessions, usually they are not.

Odd thing is besides one break up in my life Ive never had this huge issue of getting super attached and then screwed over for it, maybe it’s the abundance mindset?

Yeah I can say.

Im a trades person, the amount of divorced men who are getting all their money taken away is limitless.

I’ve stayed far far clear from the mindset of having any faith in women to do the correct motions in life. Ziltch.

Im surprised the women in the two other stories were even capable enough to go sell the gentlemen’s possessions, usually they are not.

Odd thing is besides one break up in my life Ive never had this huge issue of getting super attached and then screwed over for it, maybe it’s the abundance mindset?

I dont think that is the case. I don’t want to speak for everyone but after youve been enough years in the field, you’re bound to get attached to some chick.

She may not screw you over, but you WILL make tons of mistakes with this first, second, maybe even third girl you get attached to. You may see things coming a mile away thanks to Chase and the other writers on this website’s advice but its one thing to read about it and another to go through it.

I think its a right of passage to go through getting hurt and dealing with unbearable pain, the way skills describes it. But once you go through it a few times, you come out the other end clearer, more resilient, and able to handle situations without your feelings getting in the way. Atleast I hope that this is the case- currently going through the breakup of my third attachment (many lays without ever getting attached) but already accepting it for what it is.

I think the attachment will come into a play when you get with a girl of higher caliber than what youre used to, and she pushes all the right buttons.

 

[Troy]

@Troy

bump

Rumble!

I read this post quite a few times since morning. I am trying to make sense how it relates to what happened with me in the last 48 hours.

Put yourself in my situation for a moment @Skills ...

If you asked a woman out on a date. And for some reason you gave her money to come because she was flat broke. Lets move the number to $500. And both you and her confirm what time approximately to meet, lets say 8:30PM.

Let's say it is now 10:00PM. This girl has not showed up. You message her "Hey you dressing up extra pretty and running a bit late?"

You make the interaction flirtatious. You dont assign no blame. And then the next thing you know, she blocks you on Whatsapp/phone calls/SMS.

You have no way of contacting this girl. And she has your $600 USD , but decided to block you after reading your flirtatious message. What would you do?

I know you would not give a woman $600 USD. But just work with the example for argument sake. In my situation $25 USD sounds like bread crumbs to you, so I am bumping the money to a large amount. I am from a third world country so $25 USD is a lot here. So your number, if you are in the US is $600 USD. So this woman blocks all contact with you.

How would you respond? Because she blocked all communication. Would you simply walk away from your $600 USD? Or would you report it to the police as robbery? Because it aint like the girls phone went dead or she is not on WIFI. I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

 

[moom]

A few bad apples don’t make the whole crate bad. You got scammed, a guy could have done this as well. There are shit people out there, both male and female.

Does this make all girls shitty people? Not by a long shot.

Rumble!

I read this post quite a few times since morning. I am trying to make sense how it relates to what happened with me in the last 48 hours.

Put yourself in my situation for a moment @Skills ...

If you asked a woman out on a date. And for some reason you gave her money to come because she was flat broke. Lets move the number to $500. And both you and her confirm what time approximately to meet, lets say 8:30PM.

Let's say it is now 10:00PM. This girl has not showed up. You message her "Hey you dressing up extra pretty and running a bit late?"

You make the interaction flirtatious. You dont assign no blame. And then the next thing you know, she blocks you on Whatsapp/phone calls/SMS.

You have no way of contacting this girl. And she has your $500 USD , but decided to block you after reading your flirtatious message. What would you do?

I know you would not give a woman $500 USD. But since in my example $25 USD sounds like bread crumbs to you, I am bumping the money to a large amount. I am from a third world country so $25 USD is a lot here. So your number, if you are in the US is $500 USD. So this woman blocks all contact with you.

How would you respond? Because she blocked all communication. Would you simply walk away from your $500 USD? Or would you report it to the police as robbery? Because it aint like the girls phone went dead or she is not on WIFI. I would love to hear your thoughts on this

 

[Troy]

A few bad apples don’t make the whole crate bad. You got scammed, a guy could have done this as well. There are shit people out there, both male and female.

Does this make all girls shitty people? Not by a long shot.

I am not talking about a few bad apples. Yes there are some very wonderful women in this world. Despite my struggles, I happened to date a few over the years. But what I am talking about is the specific situation. Since $25 sounds like peanuts to you guys, I am making the number large.


I would like to know what you would specifically do if you were in that situation. A girl has $800 USD for you and she flaked on the date. You happened to send her the money because she was flat broke (not saying you would but work with the example please). She blocked you when the date time came. How do you respond?

 

[moom]

I am not talking about a few bad apples. Yes there are some very wonderful women in this world. Despite my struggles, I happened to date a few over the years. But what I am talking about is the specific situation. Since $25 sounds like peanuts to you guys, I am making the number large.


I would like to know what you would specifically do if you were in that situation. A girl has $800 USD for you and she flaked on the date. You happened to send her the money because she was flat broke (not saying you would but work with the example please). She blocked you when the date time came. How do you respond?

Depends on how bad ass you are-
I’d find where she lives and spray paint her house/ bash up her car.

Or you could do the rational thing, accept your losses, and know what to watch out for the next time, and dont get scammed again

 

[Troy]

Depends on how bad ass you are-
I’d find where she lives and spray paint her house/ bash up her car.

Or you could do the rational thing, accept your losses, and know what to watch out for the next time, and dont get scammed again

Well thank you for being honest.

You would waste money to go to the hardware to buy spray paint. You dont know where she lives so you would dig down a ton of confidential information to find it. (Which may be illegal)

But yet I go to the police to report the issue and now I am being judged as "cheap". Thats basically what it is. $25 sounds like crumbs. Now let me be real. If I had sent the girl $5 and she flaked, I would not have said a word. But in my country, that $25 is a whole week of groceries for me.

That's my comfort level. I think whatever your income, try to scale that to your comfort level. Some guys comfort level may be $5,000 USD, $1,000 USD, $12,000 USD. It depends on the guy.

 

[moom]

Well thank you for being honest.

You would waste money to go to the hardware to buy spray paint. You dont know where she lives so you would dig down a ton of confidential information to find it. (Which may be illegal)

But yet I go to the police to report the issue and now I am being judged as "cheap". Thats basically what it is. $25 sounds like crumbs. Now let me be real. If I had sent the girl $5 and she flaked, I would not have said a word. But in my country, that $25 is a whole week of groceries for me.

That's my comfort level. I think whatever your income, try to scale that to your comfort level. Some guys comfort level may be $5,000 USD, $1,000 USD, $12,000 USD. It depends on the guy.

I’m thankfully well off so yeah that would be my response lol

 

[Troy]

Depends on how bad ass you are-

My bad ass level means staying within the law. I would not go around destroying people's property because they did me wrong.

Also, if you are well off, that means you are at greater risks of being sued. Lets say you are making $360K a year which is the top 2% or less of men in the US. And a woman tricks you off of $25,000.

You are telling me you are willing to risk losing it all. To dig up confidential information to then destroy that persons property. But you would not go to the police first to make a report?

Hmmmm

 

[moom]

My bad ass level means staying within the law. I would not go around destroying people's property because they did me wrong.

Also, if you are well off, that means you are at greater risks of being sued. Lets say you are making $360K a year which is the top 2% or less of men in the US. And a woman tricks you off of $25,000.

You are telling me you are willing to risk losing it all. To dig up confidential information to then destroy that persons property. But you would not go to the police first to make a report?

Hmmmm

What can I say, I give less a shit about consequences than the average person- all that matters only if youre caught

 

[Skills]

Rumble!

I read this post quite a few times since morning. I am trying to make sense how it relates to what happened with me in the last 48 hours.

Put yourself in my situation for a moment @Skills ...

If you asked a woman out on a date. And for some reason you gave her money to come because she was flat broke. Lets move the number to $500. And both you and her confirm what time approximately to meet, lets say 8:30PM.

Let's say it is now 10:00PM. This girl has not showed up. You message her "Hey you dressing up extra pretty and running a bit late?"

You make the interaction flirtatious. You dont assign no blame. And then the next thing you know, she blocks you on Whatsapp/phone calls/SMS.

You have no way of contacting this girl. And she has your $600 USD , but decided to block you after reading your flirtatious message. What would you do?

I know you would not give a woman $600 USD. But just work with the example for argument sake. In my situation $25 USD sounds like bread crumbs to you, so I am bumping the money to a large amount. I am from a third world country so $25 USD is a lot here. So your number, if you are in the US is $600 USD. So this woman blocks all contact with you.

How would you respond? Because she blocked all communication. Would you simply walk away from your $600 USD? Or would you report it to the police as robbery? Because it aint like the girls phone went dead or she is not on WIFI. I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

I read the interaction, you have tons of text charisma which very few ccommunity guys have, which is why they advise text to meet, you have the potential of having her soft closing and hard closing on you and even her sending you the money.... but you made too many silly errors, you made her uncomfortable to the point she was fearing violence if you didn't have sex with her.. and you were subcommunicating neediness and desperation which is not attractive, she was going to flake pre you sending the $25..... read any basic seduction book, review the fundamentals..

 

[Darius]

If you asked a woman out on a date. And for some reason you gave her money to come because she was flat broke. Lets move the number to $500. And both you and her confirm what time approximately to meet, lets say 8:30PM.

Let's say it is now 10:00PM. This girl has not showed up. You message her "Hey you dressing up extra pretty and running a bit late?"

You make the interaction flirtatious. You dont assign no blame. And then the next thing you know, she blocks you on Whatsapp/phone calls/SMS.

You have no way of contacting this girl. And she has your $600 USD , but decided to block you after reading your flirtatious message. What would you do?

I know you would not give a woman $600 USD. But just work with the example for argument sake. In my situation $25 USD sounds like bread crumbs to you, so I am bumping the money to a large amount. I am from a third world country so $25 USD is a lot here. So your number, if you are in the US is $600 USD. So this woman blocks all contact with you.

How would you respond? Because she blocked all communication. Would you simply walk away from your $600 USD? Or would you report it to the police as robbery? Because it aint like the girls phone went dead or she is not on WIFI. I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

this is like saying "I crossed the street without looking, I'm now 5 feet in front of a car, and it's speeding at 120 mph towards me. What would you do in my position?" There is no way to properly handle that situation. The real solution is to not get yourself in it in the first place. So, making sure no car comes before crossing the street.

My 2 cents: forget this girl, she's just a person. There are literally billions of shitty women (and men) in the world. If you don't learn from this situation you will fall into it time and again, with other bad people. And there are a whole lot worse women out there than this one. If nothing else she taught you a valuable lesson. In fact, I would cherish this experience. You got to become a different, wiser man by going through it.

Seneca said it well thousands of years ago -

"If you really want to escape the things that harass you, what you're needing is not to be in a different place, but to be a different person"

"A gem cannot be polished without friction, nor a man perfected without trials"

 

[Skills]

this is like saying "I crossed the street without looking, I'm now 5 feet in front of a car, and it's speeding at 120 mph towards me. What would you do in my position?" There is no way to properly handle that situation. The real solution is to not get yourself in it in the first place. So, making sure no car comes before crossing the street.

My 2 cents: forget this girl, she's just a person. There are literally billions of shitty women (and men) in the world. If you don't learn from this situation you will fall into it time and again, with other bad people. And there are a whole lot worse women out there than this one. If nothing else she taught you a valuable lesson. In fact, I would cherish this experience. You got to become a different, wiser man by going through it.

Seneca said it well thousands of years ago -

"If you really want to escape the things that harass you, what you're needing is not to be in a different place, but to be a different person"

"A gem cannot be polished without friction, nor a man perfected without trials"

Here is the thing with this i have said it a million times, women shitty or other wise will treat different guys different, even the same guy different at different points in the relationship... that is why we have the lover provider stuff and the betatization stuff... if troy would have seduce her properly and fucked her couple of times he could live with her rent free her paying all his bills... same girl