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Recurring issue - after talking on phone girls says vibe is not matching

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Created good vibe on text moved girl to phone from online,

Now a time comes if I talk on phone before planning date and this issue is happening with Delhi Mumbai born and brought up girls basically metro girls/big city girls/urban or woke women idk how to put it.

Not faced this issue with girls from small city yet. (Maybe not enough volume)

A girl went crazy that she wants my voice note, I asked why she said she wants to match my voice with my texting and pic, I said talking on call is better.

We talk on call and she says she is watching tv show, I check whether my voice matched with what she was hoping she answers no, later I am ghosted -> i guess here either I got cocky or she genuinely did not liked my voice maybe too nasally or what or maybe its my city accent.

Case 2 - crazy vibe over text she moves me over the call probably she is looking for someone fast idk we talk over call, conversation was dying or so I say I have work tomorrow, let's catch up tomorrow, ( i guess i rushed here)

I text her about saving her number, she thanks me but says vibe is not matching.

To save my face I say yeah I agree it did felt forced to me, so she says back that she was hopeful and curious but conclusion turned different.

Case 3 was texting a girl to check if my voice is issue I send her a voice note telling her a story and she asks me whether I am drunk, i ask why? She says I sound like that and then she losses interest. She wanted to go out without hearing my voice.

Case 4 similar a city girl, law student after 5 mins conversation felt dying to me so I say I have got something to do and then leave the conversation. Then when I text her she says our vibe is not matching

Now I really want to lay a girl like this


See for mitigating this I have already decided to avoid phone calls until date

Another, thing I have decided to not leave the phone call on a low point (easier said then done)

But if it is absolutely necessary what should I do.

P.S. for the 2nd girl is there anyway to revive the conversation, have left sent her this text maybe in another time or world.

Her reply: don't something else is waiting for me in another world.

I am sure she will reply back as long as my text is interesting and she is free.

She would have been a perfect lay and mltr, pan sexual beautiful, sexually open, I used few sex talk style text which pique her interest
 

TomInHo

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Take the feedback

If you are getting rejected after the phone call or voice notes it means something in your speech is off

Voice is part of your fundamentals and seems like you may need to work on yours. Make sure you clearly enunciate your words, slow down a little, speak from your diaphragm, use pauses here and there to create anticipation

Me personally whenever I use voice notes or calls I rarely see a drop off in compliance

Also need to make sure the content of what you are actually saying is captivating

If you like you can skip the call and go for the date, but honestly this will still hurt the amount of girls you lay on the date, because you will obviously still need to talk to them
 
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empath

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Take the feedback

If you are getting rejected after the phone call or voice notes it means something in your speech is off

Voice is part of your fundamentals and seems like you may need to work on yours. Make sure you clearly enunciate your words, slow down a little, speak from your diaphragm, use pauses here and there to create anticipation

Me personally whenever I use voice notes or calls I rarely see a drop off in compliance

Also need to make sure the content of what you are actually saying is captivating

If you like you can skip the call and go for the date, but honestly this will still hurt the amount of girls you lay on the date, because you will obviously still need to talk to them
Does asking the girl, who recently said vibe is off right move instead of giving one more shot at seducing her.

Also, should I ask her directly about this?

I want to improve it, but I don't know whether its voice tone/accent or the content I am saying over call is issue, so I can prioritise that part.

My ex-girlfriends and few others other girl actually liked my voice and found it comforting so I never bothered with it.

I do actually speak slowly from diaphragm to compensate for lack of naturally deep voice.

Also, any idea on how to recover from failed vibe escalation.
 

TomInHo

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Does asking the girl, who recently said vibe is off right move instead of giving one more shot at seducing her.

Also, should I ask her directly about this?

I want to improve it, but I don't know whether its voice tone/accent or the content I am saying over call is issue, so I can prioritise that part.

My ex-girlfriends and few others other girl actually liked my voice and found it comforting so I never bothered with it.

I do actually speak slowly from diaphragm to compensate for lack of naturally deep voice.

Also, any idea on how to recover from failed vibe escalation.

Work on your voice.

Take the feedback, go work on your voice and stop torturing yourself
 

empath

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Thought I will try to get whatever information, I can from girl 2 in OP. Checked with her what felt off, she said it's just I am not her type.

What it even mean, how can anyone decide that in 10 mins of call.

I will conclude content said in the call were off, for now. Since I am having this issue with specific type of girl better make them friends somehow and just hangout with them.

P.S. Any idea how to turn this girl into a friend, how should I propose the idea of friendship without coming as low value.
 

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Tried a shot for friendship, she said she makes friends with girls only most polite rejection a girl can give.

Could have dragged that conversation but saw no point.

Wondering how to take help from girls to understand what is missing in my vibe or voice.
 

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Are you meeting them online?
They don't like your voice...
Ok I get that part. Now what to do about it?

What are they not liking specifically about my voice?

Accent? Tone, deepness? How to figure out this?

And it's happening with a specific kind of girl, now I am having trouble approaching them or moving conversation forward in real life as well

These girls are young relative to me. 20-22. Educated primarily in english. Whereas my native is hindi ( but i don't this it's issue because anyone can guess it from my texts and when I tell them my native) Yeha by text it might feel that I am like them.

I need to be in a relationship sort of 3-4 months to get direct help from them where they actively try to mold.

What I can do in near term to get a girl like this? I am having approaching these girls in IRL whereas in early part of cold approach i do well after reaching past hook point with other girls.

Even if she is low in looks it's fine. I want to date her for learning.
 

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Ok I get that part. Now what to do about it?

What are they not liking specifically about my voice?

Accent? Tone, deepness? How to figure out this?

And it's happening with a specific kind of girl, now I am having trouble approaching them or moving conversation forward in real life as well

These girls are young relative to me. 20-22. Educated primarily in english. Whereas my native is hindi ( but i don't this it's issue because anyone can guess it from my texts and when I tell them my native) Yeha by text it might feel that I am like them.

I need to be in a relationship sort of 3-4 months to get direct help from them where they actively try to mold.

What I can do in near term to get a girl like this? I am having approaching these girls in IRL whereas in early part of cold approach i do well after reaching past hook point with other girls.

Even if she is low in looks it's fine. I want to date her for learning.

My guy the solution is obvious

Work on your voice

Work on your tonality

Work on improving your hindi accent so you can relate better to your target demo (educated english speaking girls)

Work on all of it

There are no shortcuts here and doing anything else is just wasting your time
 

empath

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My guy the solution is obvious

Work on your voice

Work on your tonality

Work on improving your hindi accent so you can relate better to your target demo (educated english speaking girls)

Work on all of it

There are no shortcuts here and doing anything else is just wasting your time
See i understood what the problem is, my voice. I need to work on it no problem.

What I have diagnosed is an hypothesis with only for now.

What I really is need is how I should being improving my voice.

The standard advice is to speak from my diaphragm, I am following it.

Also, I have even been told by some girls they like me my voice, they find it comforting.

***
So maybe if can get a 2-3 steps to kickstart the process towards improving my voice, that would be great help.
***

The more I have trouble laying these girls more I want them.
 

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See i understood what the problem is, my voice. I need to work on it no problem.

What I have diagnosed is an hypothesis with only for now.


Well that's good you have diagnosed the problem. Only way to know what will really work is to make changes and track results

What I really is need is how I should being improving my voice.

The standard advice is to speak from my diaphragm, I am following it.

Good you're following the standard advice already, but sure there is probably still room for improvement


Also, I have even been told by some girls they like me my voice, they find it comforting.

If this is true then you can put all your energy in these girls and disregard the rest

***
So maybe if can get a 2-3 steps to kickstart the process towards improving my voice, that would be great help.
***

The more I have trouble laying these girls more I want them.

If you are struggling with the educated English girls, then it's possible your accent and tonality is what is turning them off

If you want them badly then you will need to learn how to sound just like them

Might have to look into hiring a vocal coach to improve your accent. In fact this is very common with call centers in India. They train their associates to sound more "American" when they make calls to English speakers because they noticed this improved their conversions

I am sure there will be some girls in that demographic that may not mind how you currently speak. But finding them might take more time and effort, therefore makes sense to make changes to appeal to them upfront without too much convincing

So steps you can take...

- Work on enunciation
- Work on pacing
- Work on speaking from diaphragm
- Hire a vocal coach to improve your accent
 
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empath

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Well that's good you have diagnosed the problem. Only way to know what will really work is to make changes and track results



Good you're following the standard advice already, but sure there is probably still room for improvement




If this is true then you can put all your energy in these girls and disregard the rest



If you are struggling with the educated English girls, then it's possible your accent and tonality is what is turning them off

If you want them badly then you will need to learn how to sound just like them

Might have to look into hiring a vocal coach to improve you accent. In fact this is very common with call centers in India. They train their associates to sound more "American" when they make calls to English speakers because they noticed this improved their conversions

I am sure there will be some girls in that demographic that may not mind how you currently speak. But finding them might take more time and effort, therefore makes sense to make changes to appeal to them upfront without too much convincing

So steps you can take...

- Work on enunciation
- Work on pacing
- Work on speaking from diaphragm
- Hire a vocal coach to improve your accent
Hiring voice coach looks best bet. Thanks for advice men.

Nah not content with what I am getting. Will do what you suggested
 

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Hiring voice coach looks best bet. Thanks for advice men.

Nah not content with what I am getting. Will do what you suggested
Have you watched Chase's Fantastic Fundamental series on girlschase.tv about getting a sexy voice?

You'll need to buy a month's subscription to watch all the videos, but it's absolutely worth it. Try this before hiring a voice coach.
 

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Its accent confirmed with a girl i got intimate with.

She first said your accent is wierd in english. Later on after getting intimate it was cute for her.

Girls how silly and lovely you are.

I want a daughter 😂
 
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