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fsc_old

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Thank you xcrunner for your comments.

xcrunner said:
Your approaches seem forced sometimes.
Yeah, this was my way of getting rid of approach anxiety. I just approached girls and spat out the line "Hey, I think you're attractive. Are you single by any chance?" Now that I got most of the approach anxiety out of the way, I'll try to be smoother with situation approaches and whatnot.

xcrunner said:
What I mean by this is you weed out girls too easily....You're not going to regret having sex most of the time.
I did realize that I've been screening girls as if I was shopping for a girlfriend. I have lowered my standards a lot since then, but I'm still gonna have to have sex with a super attractive girl because I also have performance anxiety. I'm thinking having a super hot chick in my bed will blanket any psychological issues. Before I've been held back by psychological issues stemming from past negative experiences and the girl wasn't all that physically attractive. So yeah, having a hot chick would probably get me too turned on to even think about the past.

xcrunner said:
The second thing is you give up too easily.
Yeah, once the girls responded by telling me that they were taken with my scripted approach, I used to bounce out because I was still relatively shy and didn't know how to respond. Now I try to continue the conversation, if possible, by asking how serious it is if she tells me she's seeing someone or something like that. I haven't had the opportunity to go out and have a day of approaching since school started, and I've been doing situational/indirect stuff.
 

fsc_old

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Be observant and don't approach with a set procedure in mind

Last tonight I cold approached a girl who was waiting for her order at In N Out. Couldn't think of what to say, so I went in with the old "Hey, I think you are really pretty. Are you single by any chance?"

Before I approached her, I thought about how I would respond:
- If she says yes, ask her what she is up to and invite her to join me for an instant date. See how far I can get afterwards
- If she says no, then wish her a good night and bounce.

What I did well/better:
- Maintained eye contact and smiled with my eyes. (Didn't feel like going with the sexy vibe because I wasn't dressed well)
- Smiled
- My tone/pitch and pace of speech is already good, although I still can improve on the bedroom-iness/sexiness

The problems:
My approach is very impersonal. Maybe it won't be so bad if I had bonerific fundamentals, but for now it's very scripted and bland. She probably felt like a worthless piece of meat, and I probably appeared like a dirtbag (the rank below "asshole" which only the dirtiest and horniest-at-the-moment girls will consider boning).

Approaching with a procedure in mind was acceptable because that way I wouldn't freeze up not knowing what to do next. The major problem, however, was that I stuck with the procedure instead of being dynamic. When she replied that she was single, I literally just wished her a good night and bounced. That was a really bad screw up.

When I left her to go back to my table after the "rejection", I thought about how shitty of a mood she was in. She did not smile at all. When I said "hey, excuse me", she looked up into my eyes very slowly as if she was COMPLETELY zoned out just before I spoke. Usually girls' eyes dart to mine when I open them and they smile (only one other girl--twins actually--didn't smile, and two other girls smirked a little), but her eyes just slowly dragged up as if she was thinking "now what do I have here after dealing with all the crap that happened today?"

What I should have done is: sit down next to her after saying "hey, excuse me", probably compliment her anyway, then ask how her day has been because she seems very down. If she decides to shut me out anyway, then whatever. If she warms up a little, then I could have offered her to join me so we can talk about her day or at least offer to listen because venting always helps.

I need to be more dynamic
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Feeling like I've stepped up quite a bit

My frat threw a party last night. I started the night off by being security at the front door. Preventing and yelling at random/creeper/non-student/strange guys who are trying to enter the house always pumps me up and gets some social momentum rolling. Two black-haired Norwegian chicks and a blonde were about to leave the party because they couldn't find a bathroom. I decided to let them use mine so I can get my mind and tongue warmed up.

Some conversation starters and deep divers that I used:
- How is your night going so far?
- Where are you from?
- How is it living in a sorority house?
- Do you plan on staying in Norway after you're done with your studies?
All three were pretty good talkers, so I didn't really need a lot of effort on my part. There were probably only like 5 more questions that I asked. Can't remember.

I tried to incorporate sexual framing:
Girl: This is actually only my second time being inside inside of a frat house. Last time I fell asleep in a room of another frat house my friend is in.
Me: Yeah? Which bunk? (With a mischievous, close-lipped grin)
Girl: NO NO NO not like THAT! I actually slept on the floor. Hahaha, it wasn't like that, there were actually 5 other guys.
Me: WOOOOAAAAH, I didn't think you were like that!
Girl: OMG Noooo, There were girls too!
Me: So an orgy then (it wasn't necessary for me to say this--should've just grinned and maybe looked to the side)

Our conversation was 50% small talk and deep diving, 25% sexual stuff, and 25% racist jokes, and we talked for at least half an hour. Before I had them rejoin the party downstairs, I had all three in my room. I gave one of the Norwegian girls a shot of melon Bacardi for sharing a really good racist joke (I keep a bottle of melon Bacardi and honey Jack Daniels in my room because both taste hella good. Pineapple Bacardi and Oakheart Bacardi are also good). I offered to give shots to the other two girls if they could tell me another good racist joke. Now, both Norwegian girls had hella nice breasts. At least D cups. They were REALLY REALLY nice, and I wanted to play with them. I considered trading tit-play for a shot, but I chose not to escalate because all three were on the chubbier side. Maybe I should've just played with them. Whatever, the night ended very well. Opting out actually made me feel good because I wasn't thinking "I should've done it" but "I could have done it but chose not to. I HAD THE POWER! THE POWER!!!"

Went back to doing security because I just wasn't really in the mood to open the hot chicks yet. I was being fratty-alpha at the front door, and I also kicked a guy out of the party by yelling at him and pushing him out through the crowd. I guess that caught me some attention. While during security, I turned around for a moment and noticed a very attractive blonde just standing in the walkway, leaning against the wall on her shoulder, and looking at me with some fairly seductive eyes. I feel like if I turned up my game to the max and greeted her, I probably could have bedded her. However, I've met her at a kickback the week before, and she was quite nonchalant and not very talkative that night. It was one of those interactions where the conversation lasted for as long as I asked questions. The conversation was basically:
Me: standard question
Her: response
Me: deep diver off of that response
Her: response with not enough details to dive further
Repeat,

We maintained eye contact for about 3 seconds, during which I debated: "I could probably end up boning her tonight. Should I risk another one-sided convo and a possible night ender?" I chose to continue security because it was necessary. The rest of the frat bros were too intoxicated to guard and were likely to let in creepers. There were quite a bit of non-student creepers that night.

I was soon relieved of my position by a frat bro who sobered up.

Three beauties:
I noticed a VERY hot blonde, Jessica, on our front balcony earlier in the night. She seemed bored, and the guy she was talking to had about 3 feet of distance in between them. There were two other attractive girls next to Jessica who were talking to each other. There were also 2-3 other guys standing next to the guy who was talking to Jessica, but they were talking among themselves instead of engaging the other 2 chicks. I grabbed a frat bro and opened the two girls because IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN A GIRL, BE TALKING TO HER. IF YOU DON'T, THEN MY FRAT BROS AND I WILL. Even if you're with your homies/bros, focus on the girl. You can hang out with your friends whenever you want whereas the party or whatever could be the last time you ever see the girl.

Me: HI, what are your names?
(Consciously made sure to have semi-sexy smiling eyes + sexy close-lipped smile + my natural, slow-paced, deep voice. Quick name introduction took place between us 4. I just ignored Jessica because she was in mid convo with the dude)
Me: Cool, I thought both of you were very attractive, so I wanted to talk to you. Tell me something interesting about yourself.
(I'll call this girl Temecula because that's where she's from. Temecula told me what she was majoring in, so I began deep diving off of that. My frat bro started talking to the other girl, who looked a lot like Lorde. Both chicks were flattered and smiling)

Yeah, I decided to go very direct because it's powerful. A lot of guys were just standing around staring, and I knew there would be very lame approaches, so I wanted to come in with a bang. Actually, one of the Norwegian girls from earlier was telling me about how some guy approached her by telling her how rich he was and if she married him, she could have anything she wanted. Wow...

I sat down on the balcony railing (I think this was called locking in), so that it felt like I was the prize or something like that. Jessica's and my backs touched =]. Probably about 3 minutes into the conversation, Jessica stands up and sorta joins our foursome. We exchanged names and shook hands. She then pulls Temecula and positions her away from me so that Jessica is in the middle between Temecula and me, with Jessica's back facing me. Jessica tells Temecula something in her ears, and Temecula stays in position. Jessica now moves to where Temecula used to be and joins in on Lorde and my frat bro's conversation. I reengaged Temecula, but I was very much enjoying what Jessica was doing.
Frat bro: What's your favorite dinosaur? (He's the cutesy type, and some girls just love it)
Lorde: (Thinks. I think she answered. I don't remember)
Frat bro: Mine is (I don't remember what he said. Most of my attention was on Temecula) because something something
Jessica: (Something along the lines of "Ha. Ha. Cool dinosaur. I don't know dinosaurs. That's cute. Okay" then grabs both Lorde and Temecula by their arms and walks away.)

Wow. I fell in love a little. My frat bro was kinda shocked/WTF?! while I was just laughing. I was amazed and excited. I followed them. Kinda felt like a creeper because they knew I was tailing them. They went upstairs to the bathroom, but luckily it was occupied, so they couldn't escape from me into the bathroom. MUHAHAHA (evil laugh)
Me: Jessica, I really don't care if you're attracted to me or not, but I just had to tell you that I really admire your protective, bossy personality. It's just fucking awesome.
Her: Aww, you're so cute and sweet. (Instantly melted and smiled and gave me a hug)
Me: Alright ladies, take care of yourselves and have a good night.
I bounced,

Came back down to the party, realized I shouldn't have left them, debated if it'd be weird if I went back up, went up, all 3 were in the bathroom, so came back down because it would definitely be creepy if I was waiting for them outside the bathroom. There were other attractive girls in the crowd, including that blonde who gave me those seductive eyes at the front door, but Jessica's personality really hooked me in. I noticed the two Norwegian chicks sitting by the patio, and one of my frat bros was free, so I decided to introduce him to them. The three girls came back down and returned to the balcony as I was wingmanning. Some more time passed. I spent it doing more security and debating whether I should go back to the balcony. Then I saw Jessica taking Temecula back to the bathroom. I checked in on them, Temecula was about to puke, so I got them water. I forgot what I said, but I basically communicated to Jessica that I wanted to talk to her and get to know her, despite her telling me that she's been in a relationship for 4 years.

Went back down, decided to wait for Jessica to come back down so I could catch her, realized Lorde was still on the balcony, so there I went. The dudes were still there talking to themselves, and Lorde was talking in a circle of 2 girls and 1 guy. I interrupted them by grabbing Lorde's arm, saying "Excuse me, I just need to ask you one quick question." I pulled her a little away from the circle and asked if she was single. The guy left to go join the other guys when I did this, and the two girls' eyes widened and sparkled because they overheard me. Maybe I could've pulled one or both of them. Lorde has been taken for 6 years, but told me that Jessica is actually newly single from a 4-year relationship. Huh. How about that? =]

I made small talk plus some deep diving with Lorde until Jessica joined us. I basically told her what Lorde told me and asked for her number. She told me she didn't bring her phone and gave me the runaround and went cold as I persisted. I realized that nothing good was going to come out if I persisted more, so I said "Alright, fuck it. I don't really care. I don't need your number," and put my phone back in my pocket because I stopped giving a shit at this point. I resumed conversation with Jessica. She was quite warm again. About 5 minutes into the conversation, which was going pretty well, a frat bro who was walking down the sidewalk asked if I wanted to come with him to go get some food. I told him to give me a minute so I could say my good bye to Jessica. I walked closer to Jessica (I was originally only about a foot away from her) and gave her a hug. HOLY SHIT. She just felt so damn good in my arms. LIKE HOLY FUCKING SHIT. Her smell (strangely good mixture of perfume and alcohol), her arms around me with just the right amount of tightness, her squishy breasts pressing on my chest...I just kept holding onto her, and she didn't mind. While in the hugging position, I lifted her up and yelled "I'M KIDNAPPING YOU!" and started walking away. I wanted to follow through with that so badly--take her all the way to my room. She just laughed and yelled "YAY!" I remembered something from one of RSD's Owen's YouTube videos and decided to do it: while still in the hugging and lifted position, I walked toward the balcony railing and yelled "YOU'RE SO FUCKING HOT I'M GONNA THROW YOU OFF THE BALCONY!" She laughed again and yelled "WEE!" I put her back down on her feet, and we broke off from the hug for a second--our arms were still around each other, but our torsos were separated with about 6 inches of space between our faces. We locked eyes. The thought of kissing her just popped into my mind when she came back into me for a tighter hug. Her head was right above my shoulder, then she tilted her head and rested it against the side of my head. OH MY FUCKING GOD. I did not want to let her go. I really didn't want to. But I left her anyway after another 30 seconds of hugging or so. She didn't want to give me her number earlier, and I didn't feel like asking again. I wanted to just carry her to my bed and fuck her all night, but she was drunk and I would've felt uneasy about it afterwards. So we said our goodbyes, then I joined my frat bro down the street for part 2 of this night.

I cold approached another attractive blonde girl during the part 2. I have a date with her in a couple of hours. I will be posting a FR/LR soon.

Lessons learned:
- I need to get my social momentum rolling BEFORE the party starts. Most of the hot girls come to the party early, realize that most guys are too pussy/awkward to talk to them, and leave.
- Persist
- Life is composed of memories. If you're presented with the opportunity to create good memories, do it.
 

fsc_old

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Some LULZ

Went to 3rd Street Promenade to do some cold approaches with a frat bro yesterday.

I walked into this one store because it was customer-less and the two employees were extremely attractive (Santa Monica has a ton of beauties). I walked in all confidently and spoke immediately with good eye contact and smile. Initially, the two employees' faces lit up and were smiling.

Me: Hi, do you have any acne products, or is this store just all cosmetics?
Girl1: What? (Smile begins to fade)
Me: Do you have anything for acne, or is this store just all beauty products?
Girl1: Umm... (Smile is gone)
Girl2: This is a jewelry store... (Holding in laughter)
Me: Oh...Shit, wow, I thought it was a cosmetics store. My bad...
I just had to walk out. My frat bro was outside looking in, and he told me they started cracking up after I left. Oh well, at least I made their day.



Later, I went to Nordstrom's shoe area because there was a really cute and pretty blonde working there. Now when I talk, I often describe things like chocolate-y, blue-y, water-y, etc.

Me: Excuse me, do you have anything like the shoes I'm wearing but in brown leather?
Her: Sure, how about these? (Boot-like shoes with high ankle)
Me: These are cool, but do you have anything less boot-y?
(Frat bro starts cracking up in the background)
Me: Shit, I mean less boot-like?
(Her and I just started cracking up)

After a bit of lollygagging, I finally told her "I'm actually not shopping for shoes. I just came to talk to you because I thought you were really pretty." To this she blushed and giggled. I then asked her if she was single, and she started laughing and couldn't find her words. Took about 30 seconds for her to tell me "Yes, I am single, and I'm really flattered, but I'm not looking for a relationship right now". To this I replied "Well, I'm not really looking for a relationship either." Ended up not working out. How would you respond to this?



My frat bro is Indian. We were walking by a yoga clothing store when I commented "those mannequins don't even look like they squat." He then goes up to the female employee who's standing by the door, and in his hilarious fake Indian accent:
Him: Excuse me, but how come these mannequins don't squat?
Her: Huh? (She wasn't sure whether she should laugh or not)
Him: This is an active store. Do they even lift?
Her: No...they're mannequins...(giggles)
Him: I very disappointed. Bye.



Lessons learned:
- Have fun. It naturally puts a smile on your face and lets you give off a good vibe. Furthermore, switching to a sexual vibe is pretty easy from that state. You'll probably get the playful-sexy vibe, which is really good.
 

fsc_old

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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FR++/FU

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