Should I Tell Women I'm Under 18?

[TouchGrass]

Hey there,

I'm Alex, and I've got one pressing question right now. I'm 17 right now, will be turning 18 in May, but I've started trying to learn cold approach. I haven't done too many yet (must've approached only 20-30 women total so far), but something I've realized is women sometimes ask for my age. So far I've only approached adult women as far as I know, and feeling a bit pressured, I lie and say I'm 18 or 19.

Lying doesn't feel like an ideal solution though, so I'm hoping to sort this out before I might get into a situation where age becomes a legal problem. I'd like to go on dates and get phone numbers from women, even sex later on, but I feel like I'd be handicapping the results I get out in the field because women would be more on guard with someone they realize is jailbait--I know I would. Yet, I'm conflicted about lying because I'm concerned it might blow up in my face somehow.

Should I just accept that I might be handicapping myself, or lie for now until I'm 18 for real?

Alex

 

[Bete Noire]

ahaha no way! I thought I might be the only young lad on the forums - great to know theres fellow 17 year olds working on this journey ^^

As for the cold approach stuff, I know the feel. The best way to get around this is to first touch up your fundamentals so you look a lil older. Get a sharpish haircut, a lil bit of stubble if you can (i'm not one of the lucky ones either ) and get some tight fitting trendy clothes. It'll make you look a lil' more sophisticated.

Secondly, when they ask for the ol' age, make it flirty. 'That's not the first time I've been asked that ' Sly smile, glint in the ol' eyes. Maybe get her to guess it and just laugh about it for a bit.

Definitely fake it till you make it though, it's not long till were 18 so I don't see no harm in telling her, 'Wow you must be a sage!' if she guesses 18.

Hopefully this helps mate.

Rob

 

[normajean106]

Hey there,

I'm Alex, and I've got one pressing question right now. I'm 17 right now, will be turning 18 in May, but I've started trying to learn cold approach. I haven't done too many yet (must've approached only 20-30 women total so far), but something I've realized is women sometimes ask for my age. So far I've only approached adult women as far as I know, and feeling a bit pressured, I lie and say I'm 18 or 19.

Lying doesn't feel like an ideal solution though, so I'm hoping to sort this out before I might get into a situation where age becomes a legal problem. I'd like to go on dates and get phone numbers from women, even sex later on, but I feel like I'd be handicapping the results I get out in the field because women would be more on guard with someone they realize is jailbait--I know I would. Yet, I'm conflicted about lying because I'm concerned it might blow up in my face somehow.

Should I just accept that I might be handicapping myself, or lie for now until I'm 18 for real?

Alex

Normally, I'd tell you "no don't tell them" and to go nuts and have fun with this, but there are serious legal implications for corruption of a minor.

Even though a person may legally consent to sexual activity with someone of any age older than him/her once he/she turns 16, Pennsylvania state prosecutors may still charge a person 18 or older with corruption of a minor, a misdemeanor offense, if a person has consensual sexual intercourse with a 16 or 17 year old[21] - See the section about Pennsylvania for further information

This is the law I have in my state, and refers to the "Romeo and Juliet Laws" (and I'm assuming you live in the States. If not, check with your country/province's laws on this). This is pretty much how most of the states in the U.S. handle these situations.

Basically, if you sleep with someone who is about 3-4 years older than you or more, then your partner could face serious charges. Tell them the truth, and don't sleep with someone significantly older than you.

Don't worry about results with older women yet. If you're new, work on your fundamentals and focus on girls your age instead.

 

[Eternity]

Tell em you're "old enough" with a smirk and leave it at that. Change topics and keep gaming. You probably have a baby face, so you can only do so much... Jean's right about legal implications though, especially if these chicks drag you to a bar and order drinks for a minor (if they are well known at a place they won't usually ask for a guest age). Sleeping with them, ehh I'd say go for it for the experience (if you get that far). It's a double standard for women not so much men. Stay sharp and keep your wits with you...

 

[TouchGrass]

ahaha no way! I thought I might be the only young lad on the forums - great to know theres fellow 17 year olds working on this journey ^^

As for the cold approach stuff, I know the feel. The best way to get around this is to first touch up your fundamentals so you look a lil older. Get a sharpish haircut, a lil bit of stubble if you can (i'm not one of the lucky ones either ) and get some tight fitting trendy clothes. It'll make you look a lil' more sophisticated.

Secondly, when they ask for the ol' age, make it flirty. 'That's not the first time I've been asked that ' Sly smile, glint in the ol' eyes. Maybe get her to guess it and just laugh about it for a bit.

Definitely fake it till you make it though, it's not long till were 18 so I don't see no harm in telling her, 'Wow you must be a sage!' if she guesses 18.

Hopefully this helps mate.

Rob

Hey, Rob,

Nice to hear I have a similarly-aged soul brother out there, man. You seem like you'd be a pretty cool dude. You up for chatting a bit sometime?

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normajean106,

You're right about that. I did a quick google search, and it turns out that sex is illegal with a minor under California's Statutory Rape Law. Consent is not a valid defense. So no sex with older women. If I tell them I'm 17 though I'll probably have a worse chance of getting their number or a date (which if I manage to achieve by the time I'm legally 18, I'd be pretty happy).

Tell em you're "old enough" with a smirk and leave it at that. Change topics and keep gaming. You probably have a baby face, so you can only do so much... Jean's right about legal implications though, especially if these chicks drag you to a bar and order drinks for a minor (if they are well known at a place they won't usually ask for a guest age). Sleeping with them, ehh I'd say go for it for the experience (if you get that far). It's a double standard for women not so much men. Stay sharp and keep your wits with you...

I've thought about doing something like that. Play it off by telling them, "Guess," and then giving a playfully absurd response like, "Nope. Can't you tell? I'm 81 years old."

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Thanks for the advice, guys. I've definitely gotta be careful, but it's a good thing I'm still a beginner. This may be big talk, but my biggest mountain to climb right now is just getting a number! Probably won't need to worry about the legal implications until I'm actually legal, and from then it's no problem.

 

[Richard]

Don't sweat age too much - a lot of times it is negligible. For reference, I started pick-up at 19 after a bad break up and I only just turned 21 a few days ago. All field reports of Tribal Elders are stickied on the Field Reports board so if you'd like to see exactly what is possible at a young age then check them out. Basically, I'm saying that you being young doesn't mean much.

Anyway, to the actual question,I like to respond to questions like this with vague answers, like so:

Her: "How old are you?"
Me: "Old enough to get on the rides at Six Flags."

Tends to make girls laugh and shows that you don't think the question is that important. Because you're showing it's not an issue to you women will sometimes accept that as reasonable enough.

I'm also a fan of Eternity's reply of "Old enough" with a smirk but it really only works if you have that bad-boy, or asshole vibe to go with it. If you have a babyface then it makes it a lot harder to pull off but that's only if you have one - or a general nice-guy kind of face. If you're 17, you should work on growing a mustache and beard =P

All in all, show them that it doesn't bother you or it will bother them.

-Richard

 

[Bboy100]

What everyone else said is true. Also, consider going to venues where there are lots of girls your age. In my experience, malls near high schools are really good for that.

 

[OldSelf]

Tell em you're "old enough" with a smirk and leave it at that.

I like that. A lot.

 

[TouchGrass]

Don't sweat age too much - a lot of times it is negligible. For reference, I started pick-up at 19 after a bad break up and I only just turned 21 a few days ago. All field reports of Tribal Elders are stickied on the Field Reports board so if you'd like to see exactly what is possible at a young age then check them out. Basically, I'm saying that you being young doesn't mean much.

Anyway, to the actual question,I like to respond to questions like this with vague answers, like so:

Her: "How old are you?"
Me: "Old enough to get on the rides at Six Flags."

Tends to make girls laugh and shows that you don't think the question is that important. Because you're showing it's not an issue to you women will sometimes accept that as reasonable enough.

I'm also a fan of Eternity's reply of "Old enough" with a smirk but it really only works if you have that bad-boy, or asshole vibe to go with it. If you have a babyface then it makes it a lot harder to pull off but that's only if you have one - or a general nice-guy kind of face. If you're 17, you should work on growing a mustache and beard =P

All in all, show them that it doesn't bother you or it will bother them.

-Richard

Richard,

Thanks for the advice. I don't think I have as much of a badboy vibe with my current look (nor the edgy personality to suit it), but I can definitely work with playing it off. I'll take yours and Eternity's suggestions and try to implement them next time a girl asks. I'll try to think of it as not a big deal then too so I get the unconscious nonverbals signalling its not a big deal.

What everyone else said is true. Also, consider going to venues where there are lots of girls your age. In my experience, malls near high schools are really good for that.

Bboy100,

Good suggestion, but I'm not too familiar with where girls my age hang out. I know the mall's a popular destination for some, but I'm not too keen on going to the same venue all the time so I'll try to switch it up with places where older women are at, like the streets downtown.

 

[Bastian]

I just joined the forums to ask this question... good thing there's a search bar!

18 on July here, I once light-heatedly replied "52" and that was for a good laugh, that avoided the question for about thirty minutes. She's 19 so I saw no harm in telling her "soon enough". However, this was on a social circle situation with a group I hung out with for about 8 weeks and I had an unwitting straight man that made the joke that much better. Might work on cold approach depending on delivery, I will try to use it once I get cold approaching

Anyways, I am running into this problem where my non-verbals and verbal 'coolness' give me sexual attraction without making attempts at flirting or being sexual at all. I noticed this when twice girls went to a lower energy level, a sharp decrease in enthusiasm, upon learning I'm 17. Of course, these two girls were hired guns on which one needed my age, and another one was a random approach* which spiraled out of control. So I assume it will work the same on cold approaches, if not slightly better because you communicated sexual interest rather than actual questions/concerns.

* I'm shy & working on losing it (it's been a long battle), so I tried to chat up the only other person inline at supermarket. If you would believe a 27-ish year old rough-looking man with tattoos and decent body could not even get a word out, then I was amazed. Next thing I knew, there was 3 employees trying to answer my question, including the (admittedly cute) girl who had been staring at me. Lesson learned, don't approach unless you are ready to handle frame & consequences, because I just bombed it. Not entirely sure if net positive, made a fool out of myself and am now locked out of a future approach, but I did learn two separate things. Will elaborate on a separate thread later this week.