Some different tweaks for seduction in new era...

[Skills]

These are already discuss in the forum in other places and in my yearly reviews but it is just a bit of adjustments:

- Try texting faster.- This one is HUGE, back in the day we advice to match her response time, so if she took an hour to text back you take an hour and 10 minutes at least..... or couple of hours etc...... if she text just text right away back... Don't worry about looking needy just text back right away... sample

I actually did a post on momentum But the post is a different context, is not about texting faster i should have done one about texting faster...

- Try more physical game over verbals

- When Verbals more focus on comfort vs sexual arousal

- try more day game / nightgamers can do "brunches" during day game as dww mentions.- But day game is totally tops right now imho..... I actually went to one of the brunches last week, totally better... Again, day game stock up all across this year as of now... Unfortunately night game is still very inconsistent in most of usa... What i mean by that you can have excellent night women out, next week dead rinse wash repeat.... Way around this is going out way more often as workaround..

- Try losing weight to a leaner look is in...(worry more about a leaner type look).... Kinobody has great practical workouts, field tested...you can even get them free online with enough research...

- lot of hair is in (bad for me), no long i am talking top...

- Try baggy or lose jeans/pants, cropped tops or tshirts....

- Beisbol caps in

- if tats again go for patch tats

- humor is fine, just dumb it down

- @TomInHo brought up the point that hotter women are approaching more, as i said in my review gen z more friendly.... I did not add this cause for me approaches doesn't translate into lays... Specially for me i do dance floor game... I thought it was common sense, but he is right new gen. Approach more and more friendly... Specially in clubs..

- lower your reliance on approach invites, i have notice it is on with girls that don't give me anything, MORE THAN PREVIOUS YEARS.- Need to clarify, obviously i still get approach invites, no capitalizing in approach invites is dumb.... What i am saying and pay attention, don't worry as much as in the past on forcing and relying on approach invites, even if she does not give you anything a lot of times is on.... This one is more for night game context specially....

^ if anybody knows of why all of the above is happening, cool! i have no idea why? so don't ask me, i stop trying to find out why all the shit going on above happening.... Only think i can think on "baggy" maybe corona, and club inconsistencies, due to financial and people move due to housing pricing, but i stop trying to figure out, waste of my time....

edit: I forgot to add something i can't believe it i totally forgot, this one is huge for guys that have been gaming for more than 5 years, more relevant to night game cold approach usa gen z:

- kiss denials stop working last 3 years or so.- back in the day we would create sexual tension and pretend we would kiss and tease and pull back, with gen z this stop working last 3 years.... Context cold approach night game mainly USA. Women will auto reject and cut interaction, you are better off making out ..

 

[Atlas IV]

- Try texting faster.- This one is HUGE, back in the day we advice to match her response time, so if she took an hour to text back you take an hour and 10 minutes at least..... or couple of hours etc...... if she text just text right away back... Don't worry about looking needy just text back right away... sample

I actually did a post on momentum But the post is a different context, is not about texting faster i should have down one about texting faster...

Nice writeup Skills. This one is really important. Everyone has "TikTok brain" now and most girls have like ten social media apps, so it's become an attention economy. Will also mention @POB's follow-up ping text which has helped me a lot with girls that don't text back.

- When Verbals more focus on comfort vs sexual arousal

This has been my experience too. I've found that @Teevster's comfort and trust gambit is a safe go-to for verbal escalation. I've never had a woman disagree with me over it, and many of them are pleasantly surprised.

- try more day game / nightgamers can do "brunches" during day game as dww mentions.- But day game is totally tops right now imho..... I actually went to one of the brunches last week, totally better... Again, day game stock up all across this year as of now... Unfortunately night game is still very inconsistent in most of usa... What i mean by that you can have exellent night women out, next week dead rinse wash repeat.... Way around this is going out way more often as workaround..

Not sure how it is in the USA, but in LatAm and Asia it seems like night life has headed toward two extremes: people either go to thumping packed night clubs with bottle service and ultra loud pop music, or they go to quieter eatery bars for food and drink with close friends. I'm not finding so many places that are in between, like low-key cocktail lounges and bars where people go to mingle outside their social circle. Could be that social media is replacing this function for a lot of people - they don't feel the need to push themselves to meet strangers at a bar when they can do so online. Just my theorizing though, it could also be that I just haven't found the right places.

- if tats again go for patch tats

Could you expand on this? Do you mean patch tats instead of real tattoos?

 

[Skills]

Nice writeup Skills. This one is really important. Everyone has "TikTok brain" now and most girls have like ten social media apps, so it's become an attention economy. Will also mention @POB's follow-up ping text which has helped me a lot with girls that don't text back.

^ good point maybe, as i said i stop trying to figure out why... but maybe that is it...

This has been my experience too. I've found that @Teevster's comfort and trust gambit is a safe go-to for verbal escalation. I've never had a woman disagree with me over it, and many of them are pleasantly surprised.

Just read it i like it.... may field test in the future

Not sure how it is in the USA, but in LatAm and Asia it seems like night life has headed toward two extremes: people either go to thumping packed night clubs with bottle service and ultra loud pop music, or they go to quieter eatery bars for food and drink with close friends. I'm not finding so many places that are in between, like low-key cocktail lounges and bars where people go to mingle outside their social circle. Could be that social media is replacing this function for a lot of people - they don't feel the need to push themselves to meet strangers at a bar when they can do so online. Just my theorizing though, it could also be that I just haven't found the right places.

^ same here, i am talking more about consistency, some nights women come out, next week they don't...(obviously i am talking about ratios, quality, availability)...

Could you expand on this? Do you mean patch tats instead of real tattoos?

Patch tats are trending...

 

[Marcellus]

On the approach invitations, I think I notice the same thing and I'm not getting as many as I used to in the past.
Any other seducers experiencing this as well?
I still approach anyways of course

 

[gameboy]

On the approach invitations, I think I notice the same thing and I'm not getting as many as I used to in the past.
Any other seducers experiencing this as well?
I still approach anyways of course

I'm definitely noticing this. I thought it was just me getting older though.

 

[alexlaguma]

Definitely agree on approach invitations ... I get less than previously. I think its because (as @Atlas IV alluded to) everyone has TikTok brains and are either looking at their phones, listening to music or completely not present. Nobody even looks around anymore.

That being said ... it doesn't matter. I've done a tonne of approaches recently that have went well, not one of them gave me an approach invitation.

Not sure if its worse here by the way, I live in London so nobody really pays attention to each other. Its notoriously 'unfriendly' compared to the rest of the UK.

 

[Skills]

On the approach invitations, I think I notice the same thing and I'm not getting as many as I used to in the past.
Any other seducers experiencing this as well?
I still approach anyways of course

Ssme with other guys, brah everything i put there is not only me, I confirm with other people to see if i am projecting first, come on...

 

[DarkKnight]

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On the approach invitations, I think I notice the same thing and I'm not getting as many as I used to in the past.
Any other seducers experiencing this as well?
I still approach anyways of course

I still get a lot of approach invitations, also blatant ones. Some girls pretend not to be interested but you can still covertly seeing them look at you.

Regardless it is fact that girls are more into their phones than ever and sometimes you need to pre-open them. But its not like women suddenly stop noticing men around them

But yeah aside from that I do notice a lot of girls are more scramble minded but you can sense it off them they have something frantic about them

 

[Skills]

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I still get a lot of approach invitations, also blatant ones. Some girls pretend not to be interested but you can still covertly seeing them look at you.

Regardless it is fact that girls are more into their phones than ever and sometimes you need to pre-open them. But its not like women suddenly stop noticing men around them

But yeah aside from that I do notice a lot of girls are more scramble minded but you can sense it off them they have something frantic about them

yes guys NOWHERE IN THE POST, i said ai is over, or NOWHERE I SAID that girls don't give approach invites.....

I am going to clarify that MY POINT IS, if you don't get approach invites or if you don't get right reads from forcing them, WITH MANY GIRLS, is still on.....

@DarkKnight i am not trying to single you out, i am getting rumors people confused on my point...

I will also edit the post, gen z girls like i said in my review, specially the hot ones, more friendly and confident and approach more than in the past... I really did not care to add this to post cause for me women approaching doesn't necessarily translate into lays.... but @TomInHo wanted me to point out that hot women approaching more, i totally agree....

 

[DarkKnight]

@DarkKnight i am not trying to single you out, i am getting rumors people confused on my point

No problem bro, all good. Just was confused with the other guys mentioning AIs are becoming fewer.

If there is one thing I need to add it is that I do notice very clearly increased social polarization in this era of upheaval with all the wars and friction.

Moving from social group to social group, country to country it really shows how blatant or hidden the AIs can become. I recall being in a certain country sitting on a bench, closing my eyes for 10 seconds , opening it and seeing multiple women smiling at me, it was really unreal. Social frame is really understated in seduction circles.

I dont feel things were this extreme some 10 years ago. It is like during covid people have stereotyped eachother more. I blame the politicians above all with raising tensions everywhere.

 

[Skills]

No problem bro, all good. Just was confused with the other guys mentioning AIs are becoming fewer.

If there is one thing I need to add it is that I do notice very clearly increased social polarization in this era of upheaval with all the wars and friction.

Moving from social group to social group, country to country it really shows how blatant or hidden the AIs can become. I recall being in a certain country sitting on a bench, closing my eyes for 10 seconds , opening it and seeing multiple women smiling at me, it was really unreal. Social frame is really understated in seduction circles.

I dont feel things were this extreme some 10 years ago. It is like during covid people have stereotyped eachother more. I blame the politicians above all with raising tensions everywhere.

Yes! @TomInHo brought up to me the counter, of the ais, now a days are super more subtle and more discreet and difficult to detect vs previous years, he also explain as your fundamentals get better, the more subtle the ais.... You bring up a good point, is way more groups than ever before in clubs, and newer ones all the time... great point on your theory...

 

[Marcellus]

Ssme with other guys, brah everything i put there is not only me, I confirm with other people to see if i am projecting first, come on...

We have a misunderstanding
My question was more is there anyone HERE ON THE BOARDS, who wants to share their experience with it so we can talk about it more.
I typed it wrong, was not meant to attack you at all my bad

 

[Skills]

We have a misunderstanding
My question was more is there anyone HERE ON THE BOARDS, who wants to share their experience with it so we can talk about it more.
I typed it wrong, was not meant to attack you at all my bad

I never thought you were attacking....i was kinda of trolling..

 

[DarkKnight]

Yes! @TomInHo brought up to me the counter, of the ais, now a days are super more subtle and more discreet and difficult to detect vs previous years, he also explain as your fundamentals get better, the more subtle the ai

I want to add something to this, Something Teevster also mentions in his good looking guys article. When your fundies are a bit too good women are also going to unnecessary hide interest or act aloof. Basically what happens is you can notice their incongrues behavior, so you know they like you, but when you talk to them they are going to act very aloof and uninterested. Basically they are trying to get you to like them more, it is SUPER annoying haha, as if there are not enough logistical worries to contend with already.

 

[POB]

Excelent points @Skills

- Try texting faster.- This one is HUGE, back in the day we advice to match her response time, so if she took an hour to text back you take an hour and 10 minutes at least..... or couple of hours etc...... if she text just text right away back... Don't worry about looking needy just text back right away... sample

Yes, this is number one imho
Drop the old conceptions about looking needy over text..
As long as it's not the old "how are you doing", just text the first thing that comes to your head
My texts sometimes are borderline retarded (if I'm having brain farts), but I text it anyway
Just get the ball roling and follow the old open > banther > soft close > hard close sequence

- When Verbals more focus on comfort vs sexual arousal

This!!!
Something I've been noticing, girls are in need of more comfort than ever!
Before you could get sexual faster...now, you need to ramp up comfort to higher levels before pulling out the big guns.
Just need more patience and wait a bit longer to make your move, that's all.

- try more day game / nightgamers can do "brunches" during day game as dww mentions.- But day game is totally tops right now imho..... I actually went to one of the brunches last week, totally better... Again, day game stock up all across this year as of now... Unfortunately night game is still very inconsistent in most of usa... What i mean by that you can have excellent night women out, next week dead rinse wash repeat.... Way around this is going out way more often as workaround..

Covid made social game more important than ever ime
Women are in desperate need of being in gatherings, even the shy ones

- Try losing weight to a leaner look is in...(worry more about a leaner type look).... Kinobody has great practical workouts, field tested...you can even get them free online with enough research...

This worked like a charm for me!
Even if you are muscular, it's worth a shot to try to lean out
Droped from 215lbs to 208lbs and women are giving me more looks now than ever

- lot of hair is in (bad for me), no long i am talking top...

Beards are fine too

- Try baggy or lose jeans/pants, cropped tops or tshirts....

True

- Beisbol caps in

True

- humor is fine, just dumb it down

Gotta be simple and easy to understand (think about telling a joke to a smart toddler....not kidding)

 

[POB]

I want to add something to this, Something Teevster also mentions in his good looking guys article. When your fundies are a bit too good women are also going to unnecessary hide interest or act aloof. Basically what happens is you can notice their incongrues behavior, so you know they like you, but when you talk to them they are going to act very aloof and uninterested. Basically they are trying to get you to like them more, it is SUPER annoying haha, as if there are not enough logistical worries to contend with already.

Agreed....first they are all over you....then when you give A HINT of interest back, they start to pull away.
Definitely annoying, because you KNOW they want to be with you.
Only way I figured to fight that back is to look vulnerable.
Show a bit of a soft vulnerable side, one that they can relate to on a nurturing level, so it triggers their caring motherly side.
If you can get them on board with that, rest of seduction becomes a lot easier.

 

[DarkKnight]

vulnerable.

I will try crying..

(I JOKE)

but yeah, I tend to hear a lot of times that I come across very put together, and I guess showing some humanity will help

 

[POB]

I will try crying..

(I JOKE)

but yeah, I tend to hear a lot of times that I come across very put together, and I guess showing some humanity will help

e.g.
her: "wow, so you like to dance...why do you started?"
me: "Me and my ex had broken up, I was feeling kinda sad and lonely...
so I needed something fun to do to keep my mind and body busy"

 

[Skills]

Excelent points @Skills

Yes, this is number one imho
Drop the old conceptions about looking needy over text..
As long as it's not the old "how are you doing", just text the first thing that comes to your head
My texts sometimes are borderline retarded (if I'm having brain farts), but I text it anyway
Just get the ball roling and follow the old open > banther > soft close > hard close sequence

This!!!
Something I've been noticing, girls are in need of more comfort than ever!
Before you could get sexual faster...now, you need to ramp up comfort to higher levels before pulling out the big guns.
Just need more patience and wait a bit longer to make your move, that's all.

Covid made social game more important than ever ime
Women are in desperate need of being in gatherings, even the shy ones

This worked like a charm for me!
Even if you are muscular, it's worth a shot to try to lean out
Droped from 215lbs to 208lbs and women are giving me more looks now than ever

Beards are fine too

True

True

Gotta be simple and easy to understand (think about telling a joke to a smart toddler....not kidding)

Only nitpick is more clean shave and mustache is in....i still rock my beard though...if beard just keep it low 12 day no shave style...

 

[POB]

Only nitpick is more clean shave and mustache is in....i still rock my beard though...if beard just keep it low 12 day no shave style...

I just look ridiculous with a mustache lol
But some guys do look good with it