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Some different tweaks for seduction in new era...

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I just look ridiculous with a mustache lol
But some guys do look good with it
I personally think it looks like pedos, but for whatever reason is in...

@POB is what ijjjji was saying the more intimidating type of dudes, ned to be more fake shy, vulnerable, cute, play dumb...just way to disarm and lower intimidation, strong presence factor, and disarm them a bit... ijjjji was big on that, he was supposedly really tall and muscular... @TomInHo has been playing with this lately he is jacked...
 

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I personally think it looks like pedos, but for whatever reason is in...

@POB is what ijjjji was saying the more intimidating type of dudes, ned to be more fake shy, vulnerable, cute, play dumb...just way to disarm and lower intimidation, strong presence factor, and disarm them a bit... ijjjji was big on that, he was supposedly really tall and muscular... @TomInHo has been playing with this lately he is jacked...
Yeah, I remember @TomInHo having this issue in the past.
Bigger/good looking dudes need to tone it down for sure, otherwise they can easily overwhelm them.
Most new women I meet think I'm fucking 200 chicks at the same time lol....if I'm not carefull, they auto-reject before I can make my first move.
 

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Something I've been noticing, girls are in need of more comfort than ever
Any idea about the causes? Because I notice this as well
 

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Yeah, I remember @TomInHo having this issue in the past.
Bigger/good looking dudes need to tone it down for sure, otherwise they can easily overwhelm them.
Most new women I meet think I'm fucking 200 chicks at the same time lol....if I'm not carefull, they auto-reject before I can make my first move.

Yeah I was having issues with that big time. But something that helped me with my attainability issues was working on my “Himbo” vibe

This is how chat gpt defined it

A himbo is a slang term for an attractive but not very intelligent man. It's a mashup of "him" and "bimbo," which is a term for an unintelligent woman who is only valued for her looks.

Here's a breakdown of the himbo concept:


  • Attractive: Himbos are typically seen as physically pleasing men.
  • Not very intelligent: This is a key characteristic. They might be naive, clueless, or slow on the uptake.
  • Can be well-meaning: Himbos often aren't trying to be dumb, they just are. They might even come across as sweet or innocent.

So in practical terms things improved for me when I

- Added more humor (sexual and self deprecating)

- Toned down my intelligence or displays of excessive value

- Listened more than I talked

- Showed genuine interest

- Found ways of dealing with player objections… (Implying I’m more selective and don’t just fuck anyone unless we have chemistry)

- Used more cooperative leadership strategies rather that win/lose ones

- Didn’t act like a stereotypical Alpha male and came off more polite and humble
 
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DarkKnight

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Teevester made a post somewhere in main site, we also discussed in the answer on last year review..
Cant seem to find the teevster Post, link would be welcome otherwise I also want to hear what @POB has to say
 

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Any idea about the causes? Because I notice this as well
No clue really :(
Total guess from my part, but maybe it's a combination of:
- post-isolation from covid, ppl are still super emotional and needy
- social media and apps creating the illusion of abundance and attention fatigue
- lack of real men in the real world
- bozos from red pill going mainstream and putting a lot of shame on women's natural sexuality
- fatherless families/higher divorce rates improving daddy issues
- post modern feminism/left wing winning the cultural battle
 

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No clue really :(
Total guess from my part, but maybe it's a combination of:
- post-isolation from covid, ppl are still super emotional and needy
- social media and apps creating the illusion of abundance and attention fatigue
- lack of real men in the real world
- bozos from red pill going mainstream and putting a lot of shame on women's natural sexuality
- fatherless families/higher divorce rates improving daddy issues
- post modern feminism/left wing winning the cultural battle
I'd also add that since free sexuality is now long acceptable & women can sleep with whomever they want (and aren't abject to it), they're now super vulnerable to being hurt (and likely have been burnt a few times through lack of caution), so need to be very careful that the guy they're with will prioritize their safety.

Sexual liberalism is a man's game tbh.
 
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@DarkKnight found it


He kinda of misunderstood i was making the point i was not relying on it like previous year, didn't have to use it ..
 
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lower your reliance on approach invites, i have notice it is on with girls that don't give me anything, MORE THAN PREVIOUS YEARS.- Need to clarify, obviously i still get approach invites, no capitalizing in approach invites is dumb.... What i am saying and pay attention, don't worry as much as in the past on forcing and relying on approach invites, even if she does not give you anything a lot of times is on.... This one is more for night game context specially....
This one is 100% accurate.

the last year or so so especially I have noticed a sharp decrease in “typical” approach invites which is weird because I haven’t gained weight or started to dress different.

The younger girls are simply allergic to eye contact and even proximity seems to be a problem for them.

A quick “ping” still works exceptionally well though. A quick “hey” and a flirty smile and her non verbal reaction will tell you a lot.
 

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I see fewer approach invitations now, though I have been seeing that for a few years. Still get a fair number of them, but it is at a visibly lower rate than in the past. The really strong AIs (girls brushing their hair back like crazy) are rarer unless I actively trigger them.

Hot girls have been opening me more often. But the opens are more awkward and less bold than they were in the past. i.e., on my laptop with my (wired) earphones plugged in, in a coffee shop where I actually get opened a fair amount, a hot mid-20s girl in business clothes comes in, grabs a seat next to me, then asks if I have AirPods she can borrow. I was like... "Who borrows other people's earphones? lol?"

Also, not sure if this is a trend... I have assumed it is just due to me getting older... but 40+ women are noticeably more aggressive with me now. I have had them open then repeatedly re-open me, excitedly chatting about whatever... giving me super suggestive looks walking by on the street at night / licking lips at me / etc.... not to mention the odd verbal proposition now and again. I need to buy some anti-aging cream or something I guess. In the past these women did not pay attention to me at all, or at least I did not notice them doing so, and they certainly did not open or proposition me.
 

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The really strong AIs (girls brushing their hair back like crazy)
I knew I fucked this one up. So I was at a coffeeshop and there was this blonde girl, I even recall texting with fog about this for a post-mortem. I opened the girl, but she ended the conversation. I was tired that day and barely any energy left, so I closed my eyes and when I opened them I saw her staring at me. I thought nothing of it and then she started to brush her hair like crazy, really erratic, and I never saw this AI before.

I tried to re-open her but she gave a short reply and I could sense some bitterness in it. But this was probably because I took too long to re-open.

When I went home I had this really annoying feeling that I should have persisted there. Ah well, hindsight. Usually I do re-engage twice or thrice but that day I could not bring myself to. The nagging feeling kept persisting for some time

Hot girls have been opening me more often. But the opens are more awkward and less bold than they were in the past. i.e., on my laptop with my (wired) earphones plugged in, in a coffee shop where I actually get opened a fair amount, a hot mid-20s girl in business clothes comes in, grabs a seat next to me, then asks if I have AirPods she can borrow. I was like... "Who borrows other people's earphones? lol?"
How odd, I never get opened like that despite frequenting coffeeshops as well . What I do notice generally is when they start following where I look or with who I interact, then I start to understand they have an interest. Or if they sit opposite of you it pays to look under the table as well, you can see if their body is shifted towards you, I noticed this by accident.

Also, not sure if this is a trend... I have assumed it is just due to me getting older... but 40+ women are noticeably more aggressive with me now. I have had them open then repeatedly re-open me, excitedly chatting about whatever... giving me super suggestive looks walking by on the street at night / licking lips at me / etc.... not to mention the odd verbal proposition now and again
This definitely has to do with us aging, because I notice the same and yeah these women can be forward and it kind of feels creepy. It is like we can sense the neediness. I was walking down the street avoided bumping into this blonde woman narrowly and she immediately took it as chance to flirt with joking around if I am trying to avoid her. Younger girls rarely are this overt
 
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I see fewer approach invitations now, though I have been seeing that for a few years. Still get a fair number of them, but it is at a visibly lower rate than in the past. The really strong AIs (girls brushing their hair back like crazy) are rarer unless I actively trigger them.

Hot girls have been opening me more often. But the opens are more awkward and less bold than they were in the past. i.e., on my laptop with my (wired) earphones plugged in, in a coffee shop where I actually get opened a fair amount, a hot mid-20s girl in business clothes comes in, grabs a seat next to me, then asks if I have AirPods she can borrow. I was like... "Who borrows other people's earphones? lol?"

Also, not sure if this is a trend... I have assumed it is just due to me getting older... but 40+ women are noticeably more aggressive with me now. I have had them open then repeatedly re-open me, excitedly chatting about whatever... giving me super suggestive looks walking by on the street at night / licking lips at me / etc.... not to mention the odd verbal proposition now and again. I need to buy some anti-aging cream or something I guess. In the past these women did not pay attention to me at all, or at least I did not notice them doing so, and they certainly did not open or proposition me.
Agree with a lot of what you say in usa even forcing at times you don't get same reactions as previous years in usa... Women approaching has always been weak cause the burden is on the dude, but in my experience in usa has not been awkward... Maybe location dependent...
 

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I see fewer approach invitations now, though I have been seeing that for a few years. Still get a fair number of them, but it is at a visibly lower rate than in the past. The really strong AIs (girls brushing their hair back like crazy) are rarer unless I actively trigger them.
Same here
Hot girls have been opening me more often. But the opens are more awkward and less bold than they were in the past. i.e., on my laptop with my (wired) earphones plugged in, in a coffee shop where I actually get opened a fair amount, a hot mid-20s girl in business clothes comes in, grabs a seat next to me, then asks if I have AirPods she can borrow. I was like... "Who borrows other people's earphones? lol?"
This never happens to me!
Also, not sure if this is a trend... I have assumed it is just due to me getting older... but 40+ women are noticeably more aggressive with me now. I have had them open then repeatedly re-open me, excitedly chatting about whatever... giving me super suggestive looks walking by on the street at night / licking lips at me / etc.... not to mention the odd verbal proposition now and again. I need to buy some anti-aging cream or something I guess. In the past these women did not pay attention to me at all, or at least I did not notice them doing so, and they certainly did not open or proposition me.
Over here its common to get AIs from everyone anywhere.
But I'm definitely on board with weird approaches being the norm for older chicks....it's borderline criminal.
Though my favorite crowd are always gay dudes :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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