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Mikedee

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I read @Chase blog on texting and tried his approach exactly as described. From my experience, only girls who are 100% into you agree to a date right away. Overall, I think asking for a date after just one text can come across as needy. A better approach, in my opinion, is to build some back-and-forth with good, positive energy first. Once she’s comfortable, then ask her out. I’ve found this works better.


What do you guys think? Set up the date immediately or exchange a few texts first?
 

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I read @Chase blog on texting and tried his approach exactly as described. From my experience, only girls who are 100% into you agree to a date right away. Overall, I think asking for a date after just one text can come across as needy.

You're saying you a.) ask a girl out, b.) she says "yes", then c.) if you text her to go out you feel needy?

Are you following the full process below?:

  1. Approach
  2. Flirt/banter
  3. Ask out on a high point (solid laughter / strong interest)
  4. YOU: "We should hang out sometime!"
  5. HER: "Sure!"
  6. Number close
  7. Icebreaker text 30 mins - 4 hours later
  8. Scheduler text, using the 4 parts ("Structuring an 'Ask Text'")

If so, with how many girls have you followed it?

Anyway, if women a.) agree to go out with you, but b.) do not go out with you, and this is happening with most of the women you number close, it is not a problem you are going to remedy with text banter, unless there is some very special reason chicks are agreeing to dates then flaking on dates with you (like you are waiting too long or are sending bad scheduler texts or missing some important part of the process).

If you posted some examples of the texts you're sending these girls that are not working out, I think that is going to give a lot more insight into where the problem is.

Chase
 

Mikedee

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You're saying you a.) ask a girl out, b.) she says "yes", then c.) if you text her to go out you feel needy?

Are you following the full process below?:

  1. Approach
  2. Flirt/banter
  3. Ask out on a high point (solid laughter / strong interest)
  4. YOU: "We should hang out sometime!"
  5. HER: "Sure!"
  6. Number close
  7. Icebreaker text 30 mins - 4 hours later
  8. Scheduler text, using the 4 parts ("Structuring an 'Ask Text'")

If so, with how many girls have you followed it?

Anyway, if women a.) agree to go out with you, but b.) do not go out with you, and this is happening with most of the women you number close, it is not a problem you are going to remedy with text banter, unless there is some very special reason chicks are agreeing to dates then flaking on dates with you (like you are waiting too long or are sending bad scheduler texts or missing some important part of the process).

If you posted some examples of the texts you're sending these girls that are not working out, I think that is going to give a lot more insight into where the problem is.

Chase
 
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Mikedee

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You're saying you a.) ask a girl out, b.) she says "yes", then c.) if you text her to go out you feel needy?

Are you following the full process below?:

  1. Approach
  2. Flirt/banter
  3. Ask out on a high point (solid laughter / strong interest)
  4. YOU: "We should hang out sometime!"
  5. HER: "Sure!"
  6. Number close
  7. Icebreaker text 30 mins - 4 hours later
  8. Scheduler text, using the 4 parts ("Structuring an 'Ask Text'")

If so, with how many girls have you followed it?

Anyway, if women a.) agree to go out with you, but b.) do not go out with you, and this is happening with most of the women you number close, it is not a problem you are going to remedy with text banter, unless there is some very special reason chicks are agreeing to dates then flaking on dates with you (like you are waiting too long or are sending bad scheduler texts or missing some important part of the process).

If you posted some examples of the texts you're sending these girls that are not working out, I think that is going to give a lot more insight into where the problem is.

Chase
To answer you question I followed the entire steps. Here is an example of text you requested.
You're saying you a.) ask a girl out, b.) she says "yes", then c.) if you text her to go out you feel needy?

Are you following the full process below?:

  1. Approach
  2. Flirt/banter
  3. Ask out on a high point (solid laughter / strong interest)
  4. YOU: "We should hang out sometime!"
  5. HER: "Sure!"
  6. Number close
  7. Icebreaker text 30 mins - 4 hours later
  8. Scheduler text, using the 4 parts ("Structuring an 'Ask Text'")

If so, with how many girls have you followed it?

Anyway, if women a.) agree to go out with you, but b.) do not go out with you, and this is happening with most of the women you number close, it is not a problem you are going to remedy with text banter, unless there is some very special reason chicks are agreeing to dates then flaking on dates with you (like you are waiting too long or are sending bad scheduler texts or missing some important part of the process).

If you posted some examples of the texts you're sending these girls that are not working out, I think that is going to give a lot more insight into where the problem is.

Chase
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Skills

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In the third pic I used @Skills method of taking a girl phone and texting myself when first meeting her .
Just text yourself your name from her number for now....

For example:

You texting yourself from her number:

- Mike

Then if she doesn't respond next day text a conversation related on conversation or situation when you met...

You also need to have a strong interaction on the meet..
 

Mikedee

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Just text yourself your name from her number for now....

For example:

You texting yourself from her number:

- Mike

Then if she doesn't respond next day text a conversation related on conversation or situation when you met...

You also need to have a strong interaction on the meet..
Or I can just tell her to text me her name from her phone😂🤷🏾‍♂️
 

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None of this is texting I teach... let alone "exactly as described" 😭

Well, I mean, technically, one part is, on the second page of texts:

Mikedee said:
Friday 8:25 PM
Hey it's Mike Save my number :)

Yesterday 1:49 PM
So, how is Little Red Riding Hood doing today? Still recovering from your wild night in the woods?

First text is a proper icebreaker. That is fine.

Second text is NOT a scheduler message, but a "Really Incredibly Witty & Interesting Guy" message, one of the texts I say NOT to send here. Further, it jumps straight into sexualizing the girl right from the jump "wild night in the woods." Unless this message arrives in her inbox when she is in a horny mood, she is going to read it and go, "Ugh!"

First page of texts -- "I wanna come get you" is chasing. Not anything I teach.

Telling a girl who is feeling you out that you want to "Get food and go to my place for a nightcap" is not what I teach. You are telling her in the text that you want to take her home and fuck her. I know two guys who are doing this consistently well right now; both are online daters with perfect profile photos and tight texting game (they do it to screen because they are trying to avoid time wasters). Unless you are doing what they do (meeting loads of girls from online, riding on the back of your pristine profile pics that girls can't stop calling handsome and sexy, but you are tired of time waster girls and exclusively want to filter for the ones open to coming home to your place), you should not be doing this.

I don't know what scheduler message you sent (it's not in any of the photos here) but I'm assuming it's not as I teach either.

If you're trying to use my method, I suggest you open this article and go through it very carefully, and stick to the process in it as perfectly as possible:


You will be tempted to "be creative" and "skip XYZ step because I don't think I need it" or "add ABC thing because I think it will help" but as soon as you are doing that you are not following the method and are doing something else (a kind of Patchwork Seducer texting method). You need to use a process enough times, exactly as outlined, so you can get a feel for how it works and what kind of responses executing it exactly gets you, before you start branching off into experimenting with your own additions or subtractions.

(same is true if you want to use @Skills's method)

If the article is not clear enough for you, my book on texting -- which is mostly a compilation of the articles; but they are ordered and bridged together to teach proper texting psychology; there are also a few unique chapters in it -- may be worth picking up:


Cheers,
Chase
 

Mikedee

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None of this is texting I teach... let alone "exactly as described" 😭

Well, I mean, technically, one part is, on the second page of texts:



First text is a proper icebreaker. That is fine.

Second text is NOT a scheduler message, but a "Really Incredibly Witty & Interesting Guy" message, one of the texts I say NOT to send here. Further, it jumps straight into sexualizing the girl right from the jump "wild night in the woods." Unless this message arrives in her inbox when she is in a horny mood, she is going to read it and go, "Ugh!"

First page of texts -- "I wanna come get you" is chasing. Not anything I teach.

Telling a girl who is feeling you out that you want to "Get food and go to my place for a nightcap" is not what I teach. You are telling her in the text that you want to take her home and fuck her. I know two guys who are doing this consistently well right now; both are online daters with perfect profile photos and tight texting game (they do it to screen because they are trying to avoid time wasters). Unless you are doing what they do (meeting loads of girls from online, riding on the back of your pristine profile pics that girls can't stop calling handsome and sexy, but you are tired of time waster girls and exclusively want to filter for the ones open to coming home to your place), you should not be doing this.

I don't know what scheduler message you sent (it's not in any of the photos here) but I'm assuming it's not as I teach either.

If you're trying to use my method, I suggest you open this article and go through it very carefully, and stick to the process in it as perfectly as possible:


You will be tempted to "be creative" and "skip XYZ step because I don't think I need it" or "add ABC thing because I think it will help" but as soon as you are doing that you are not following the method and are doing something else (a kind of Patchwork Seducer texting method). You need to use a process enough times, exactly as outlined, so you can get a feel for how it works and what kind of responses executing it exactly gets you, before you start branching off into experimenting with your own additions or subtractions.

(same is true if you want to use @Skills's method)

If the article is not clear enough for you, my book on texting -- which is mostly a compilation of the articles; but they are ordered and bridged together to teach proper texting psychology; there are also a few unique chapters in it -- may be worth picking up:


Cheers,
Chase

None of this is texting I teach... let alone "exactly as described" 😭

Well, I mean, technically, one part is, on the second page of texts:



First text is a proper icebreaker. That is fine.

Second text is NOT a scheduler message, but a "Really Incredibly Witty & Interesting Guy" message, one of the texts I say NOT to send here. Further, it jumps straight into sexualizing the girl right from the jump "wild night in the woods." Unless this message arrives in her inbox when she is in a horny mood, she is going to read it and go, "Ugh!"

First page of texts -- "I wanna come get you" is chasing. Not anything I teach.

Telling a girl who is feeling you out that you want to "Get food and go to my place for a nightcap" is not what I teach. You are telling her in the text that you want to take her home and fuck her. I know two guys who are doing this consistently well right now; both are online daters with perfect profile photos and tight texting game (they do it to screen because they are trying to avoid time wasters). Unless you are doing what they do (meeting loads of girls from online, riding on the back of your pristine profile pics that girls can't stop calling handsome and sexy, but you are tired of time waster girls and exclusively want to filter for the ones open to coming home to your place), you should not be doing this.

I don't know what scheduler message you sent (it's not in any of the photos here) but I'm assuming it's not as I teach either.

If you're trying to use my method, I suggest you open this article and go through it very carefully, and stick to the process in it as perfectly as possible:


You will be tempted to "be creative" and "skip XYZ step because I don't think I need it" or "add ABC thing because I think it will help" but as soon as you are doing that you are not following the method and are doing something else (a kind of Patchwork Seducer texting method). You need to use a process enough times, exactly as outlined, so you can get a feel for how it works and what kind of responses executing it exactly gets you, before you start branching off into experimenting with your own additions or subtractions.

(same is true if you want to use @Skills's method)

If the article is not clear enough for you, my book on texting -- which is mostly a compilation of the articles; but they are ordered and bridged together to teach proper texting psychology; there are also a few unique chapters in it -- may be worth picking up:


Cheers,
Chase
Thank you, @Chase . I’m a bit confused because @Skills mentioned that the hard close method doesn’t work, and from my experience, it hasn’t. All the messages showing the hard close have been deleted, but honestly, I’m getting frustrated. It’s been over three months of a dry spell, and something isn’t working. I actually had better success without all this information, and I say that with all due respect.
 

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Thank you, @Chase . I’m a bit confused because @Skills mentioned that the hard close method doesn’t work, and from my experience, it hasn’t. All the messages showing the hard close have been deleted, but honestly, I’m getting frustrated. It’s been over three months of a dry spell, and something isn’t working. I actually had better success without all this information, and I say that with all due respect.
dude don't get frustrated follow a strategy, if it does not work for you after field testing enough, follow a different, till you get what works for you, no need to get frustrated.... Everyone started following a particular strategy...

just write a journal and put your text logs there..... But don't mix strategies..... Also make sure you text to your personality for example my personality is trollish, cocky funny if that is not your personality.... you need to take strategies into context...

i used to be in private chats, i would advice something, then some other dude something else, some other dude something else, a cluster fuck, that is one of the reason i quit private groups... Follow one guy and that is it one strategy, once you are getting laid a lot and clicks you can mix and match...

for example most guys won't be congruent being trollish cocky funny, if they are an analytical introverted tech guy....

The point of the how to text of the meet is to get momentum and to invest in the convo, and start texting from the meet...for example if say:

when we are together in the club "who is that good looking guy you are talking to" is right there in front of her at the club, after a strong interaction.....

when i follow up i cont. bantering in something related to the club interaction... you need to take context and personality style, and atmosphere...
 

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I actually had better success without all this information, and I say that with all due respect.

Proper execution > going with your gut > improper execution

If you can't use it correctly, you are going to be better served not using it at all, and instead just doing whatever you feel like doing. Your instincts are more likely to be correct than an improperly executed approach.

dude don't get frustrated follow a strategy, if it does not work for you after field testing enough, follow a different, till you get what works for you, no need to get frustrated.... Everyone started following a particular strategy...

just write a journal and put your text logs there..... But don't mix strategies..... Also make sure you text to your personality for example my personality is trollish, cocky funny if that is not your personality.... you need to take strategies into context...

i used to be in private chats, i would advice something, then some other dude something else, some other dude something else, a cluster fuck, that is one of the reason i quit private groups... Follow one guy and that is it one strategy, once you are getting laid a lot and clicks you can mix and match...

for example most guys won't be congruent being trollish cocky funny, if they are an analytical introverted tech guy....

The point of the how to text of the meet is to get momentum and to invest in the convo, and start texting from the meet...for example if say:

when we are together in the club "who is that good looking guy you are talking to" is right there in front of her at the club, after a strong interaction.....

when i follow up i cont. bantering in something related to the club interaction... you need to take context and personality style, and atmosphere...

Listen to @Skills here.

Based on your texting here, you seem drawn to engaging in text banter with girls.

If you want to be bantering over text, my approach (texting for logistics) is not for you.

Texting for logistics is for guys who hate texting and want to get off the phone and just get the girl out in person ASAP.

If you enjoy texting and like getting into little flirtatious back-and-forths, that is going to keep seeping through when you try texting for logistics and will mess the whole structure up. You'll seem way too available, your date requests will not be taken as seriously, and just generally it does not mesh.

You are probably going to have more luck with Skills's approach... BUT you still need to do it as Skills lays it out and not start tinkering or getting "creative" with it until you've got Skills's strategy down and working for you.

Chase
 

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You are probably going to have more luck with Skills's approach... BUT you still need to do it as Skills lays it out and not start tinkering or getting "creative" with it until you've got Skills's strategy down and working for you.

Chase
yes! i call that Freestyling.....


"Freestyling is the act of improvising something, such as a speech, song, or dance. It can also mean not following a plan or set rules. "
 

Mikedee

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II’ll run both structure and provide another report in a few weeks. Thinking back at all the young tender beautiful women I managed to approach and build a good first impression only to screw it up through text is defeating especially when this happens at least 50 times just in the past year.
 

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II’ll run both structure and provide another report in a few weeks. Thinking back at all the young tender beautiful women I managed to approach and build a good first impression only to screw it up through text is defeating especially when this happens at least 50 times just in the past year.
No run one enough times the other enough tomes... No both... Or dww combined both in this post:

 
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