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First definition:
"best; most likely to bring success or advantage:
Several treatment sessions are required in order to obtain optimal results.
Conditions in the chamber are optimal for diffusion, reaching very high temperatures.
Synonym
the best or most effective possible in a particular situation:
Companies benefit from the optimal use of their resources and personnel.
We have found that our workers reach their optimal level of performance around 11 a.m.
Different outsourcing levels may be considered optimal at different times.
See also"
So guys when it comes to seduction optimal comes down to what strategies will give you the highest odds to seduce women or higher odds in social dynamics in general (seduce people in general)
So what is the problem with optimal when it comes to the community.... In the community there are different skill levels, different years of experience, different strengths, different people in general... Some people have wayyyyy better skill set and experience than others so they can do more get away with more, they also are niche specialist (above average in proficiency in specific settings, for example me loud nightclubs and texting)
Something that is good enough does not mean is optimal.... For example i can go from a to b walking, or in bycle, or in a car.... The car would be optimal to get to the place faster, even though i can get to the place with no problems with the bycicle or a walking.
Skills get to the point.... Oh here we go with my analogies:
- Have you ever known a biz that was successful lets say a restaurant, you always good, clean, best food, hottest waiters and hostess that treat you like a king, fast service... Always packed and popular..... Then one day you go, you wait longer than usual in line then you look the other way, next time you go food was not as tasty as what you used to... Then you stop going, your stop going will not affect that biz much INMEDIATELY, you are 1 of 5 k clients.... But little by little things like that keep happening and all of a sudden from 5k clients now the restaurant has 500 clients.... The thing is by the time it got there since they had so many clients managment did not notice rapidly the problems....
- Aol was the instagram of back in the day, it had a chat function, then my space took over, then Facebook took over, then snapchat took over, then Instagram took over, then tiktok took over...In fairness Instagram incorporated tiktok like functions so they adapted they are still in... Imagine if you would have been like i have 100000 friends in myspace, don't mean shit today...
So how does the ^ relate to seduction and the problem with some seducers thinking:
- Sometimes you have top guys when it comes to seduction, that what they are doing works and works good, but little by little does not work AS WELL.... The thing is just like the restaurant when you are good is at times such a slow process that is hard to tell fast, the process when this happens is very slow the majority of the time.... And if you don't get same results since you are good and you believe you do everything optimal anyways, you think is on the girl, or environment vs you have not adapted fast enough.... This makes it even worst...
Let me give you some samples:
- you can see a seducer start getting out of shape getting a little more chubby or a little too skinny, and he will not really see much change in seductions results if any right away (happens slow)
- You can see guys wearing outdated styles in fashion and they will not see much changes in their results they will still get laid and results.... Again is micro stuff that will take time to realize. For example i remember when slim and skinny jeans came out i found them so cringe... I even used to have an opinion opener that went "what you girls think about skinny jeans" the thing is it took 5 years or so for skinny/slim jean to trend.... When i changed my style to the slim jeans chelsea boots (though i originally thought it was cringe) i got better results...
- You can see seducers that are EXTREMELY DOGMATIC, almost like a religion in their seduction beliefs (we all have big egos).. This happened to me years ago, my results went to shit when there were changes in the society that caught me off guard after a year break of seduction there was a point that the physical/minimalistic game style stop working(stop being optimal), i adapted and did more seductive verbal (second gen/teevester stuff) and got laid like crazy, so adapted from suboptimal to optimal.
^ so what is the difference between stuff that the community does vs red pill, black pill looks/seduction angle, so you guys don't think i am going red pill or black pill:
Well, for me sometimes the red pill takes are not a factual angle on seduction but a idealistic one based on erroneous kj at times conclusions.(usually blaming women steaming from hurt/anger point)... This in itself is anti seductive
The blackpill based erroneous conclusion due to extreme kj.... Most of the looks/fundamental angles are steam from actual laziness and cope, vs actual field testing and putting the work in others is cope vs solution oriented, most black pillers don't even put in the work to look decent...
So i seen a recent trend of empty no practical stuff:
- I am 40 plus still get laid with young women ( no how, no lay reports, no field reports, no a to z this how i do it, so you can replicate)
- I still get laid wearing outdated styles.
- Is easier than ever to do this or that (nothing practical, empty words)
- I still wear skinny jeans get laid with no issues.
- I get laid i don't have to say all that is too complicated
you guys get the point...
^no practical, don't mean shit! useless, lazy...
The reason for the post is for me able to link here when someone field test and mentions... "this THE NEW THING i am doing and getting more results" and someone says "I am still doing something old no optimal and i get results" sub communication, I will just link them here.
"best; most likely to bring success or advantage:
Several treatment sessions are required in order to obtain optimal results.
Conditions in the chamber are optimal for diffusion, reaching very high temperatures.
Synonym
the best or most effective possible in a particular situation:
Companies benefit from the optimal use of their resources and personnel.
We have found that our workers reach their optimal level of performance around 11 a.m.
Different outsourcing levels may be considered optimal at different times.
See also"
So guys when it comes to seduction optimal comes down to what strategies will give you the highest odds to seduce women or higher odds in social dynamics in general (seduce people in general)
So what is the problem with optimal when it comes to the community.... In the community there are different skill levels, different years of experience, different strengths, different people in general... Some people have wayyyyy better skill set and experience than others so they can do more get away with more, they also are niche specialist (above average in proficiency in specific settings, for example me loud nightclubs and texting)
Something that is good enough does not mean is optimal.... For example i can go from a to b walking, or in bycle, or in a car.... The car would be optimal to get to the place faster, even though i can get to the place with no problems with the bycicle or a walking.
Skills get to the point.... Oh here we go with my analogies:
- Have you ever known a biz that was successful lets say a restaurant, you always good, clean, best food, hottest waiters and hostess that treat you like a king, fast service... Always packed and popular..... Then one day you go, you wait longer than usual in line then you look the other way, next time you go food was not as tasty as what you used to... Then you stop going, your stop going will not affect that biz much INMEDIATELY, you are 1 of 5 k clients.... But little by little things like that keep happening and all of a sudden from 5k clients now the restaurant has 500 clients.... The thing is by the time it got there since they had so many clients managment did not notice rapidly the problems....
- Aol was the instagram of back in the day, it had a chat function, then my space took over, then Facebook took over, then snapchat took over, then Instagram took over, then tiktok took over...In fairness Instagram incorporated tiktok like functions so they adapted they are still in... Imagine if you would have been like i have 100000 friends in myspace, don't mean shit today...
So how does the ^ relate to seduction and the problem with some seducers thinking:
- Sometimes you have top guys when it comes to seduction, that what they are doing works and works good, but little by little does not work AS WELL.... The thing is just like the restaurant when you are good is at times such a slow process that is hard to tell fast, the process when this happens is very slow the majority of the time.... And if you don't get same results since you are good and you believe you do everything optimal anyways, you think is on the girl, or environment vs you have not adapted fast enough.... This makes it even worst...
Let me give you some samples:
- you can see a seducer start getting out of shape getting a little more chubby or a little too skinny, and he will not really see much change in seductions results if any right away (happens slow)
- You can see guys wearing outdated styles in fashion and they will not see much changes in their results they will still get laid and results.... Again is micro stuff that will take time to realize. For example i remember when slim and skinny jeans came out i found them so cringe... I even used to have an opinion opener that went "what you girls think about skinny jeans" the thing is it took 5 years or so for skinny/slim jean to trend.... When i changed my style to the slim jeans chelsea boots (though i originally thought it was cringe) i got better results...
- You can see seducers that are EXTREMELY DOGMATIC, almost like a religion in their seduction beliefs (we all have big egos).. This happened to me years ago, my results went to shit when there were changes in the society that caught me off guard after a year break of seduction there was a point that the physical/minimalistic game style stop working(stop being optimal), i adapted and did more seductive verbal (second gen/teevester stuff) and got laid like crazy, so adapted from suboptimal to optimal.
^ so what is the difference between stuff that the community does vs red pill, black pill looks/seduction angle, so you guys don't think i am going red pill or black pill:
Well, for me sometimes the red pill takes are not a factual angle on seduction but a idealistic one based on erroneous kj at times conclusions.(usually blaming women steaming from hurt/anger point)... This in itself is anti seductive
The blackpill based erroneous conclusion due to extreme kj.... Most of the looks/fundamental angles are steam from actual laziness and cope, vs actual field testing and putting the work in others is cope vs solution oriented, most black pillers don't even put in the work to look decent...
So i seen a recent trend of empty no practical stuff:
- I am 40 plus still get laid with young women ( no how, no lay reports, no field reports, no a to z this how i do it, so you can replicate)
- I still get laid wearing outdated styles.
- Is easier than ever to do this or that (nothing practical, empty words)
- I still wear skinny jeans get laid with no issues.
- I get laid i don't have to say all that is too complicated
you guys get the point...
^no practical, don't mean shit! useless, lazy...
The reason for the post is for me able to link here when someone field test and mentions... "this THE NEW THING i am doing and getting more results" and someone says "I am still doing something old no optimal and i get results" sub communication, I will just link them here.
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