the HUGE problem with GirlsChase!

[MisterX]

Chase and the other's in GC's team this is to all of you. It's not a rant. It's just my 2 cents. My constructive criticism, that I hope can make GC that much greater for all who are reading.



I've noticed a trend here.

Most articles and advice are about seducing the most beautiful women there are. The women who make models look ugly in comparison. The girls who have millionaires chasing them. The women who have 50 or more guys trying to win her at any one time. The women who get approached 167 time per week. The kind most men will never even meet, not to speak even try to talk to.


And these articles assume that every single guy reading is of James Bond status.


So while writing you must not assume that every guy is like you, or wants to be like you.


It's not about how a regular guy can seduce a regular girl.

Not every guy wants the hottest women you can imagine. Most guys want a beautiful-in a cute way, girl. A nice regular girl. The kind that doesn't have tons of guys hitting on her every day. That hasn't been with 30-40 guys.

The kind that is shy and maybe likes you enough that she want's to be with you.


Cause most articles left me with a feeling of:
- women don't care about you
- they have had sooo much experience that you don't matter to her
- she doesn't care if you talk to her, if you go out together, if you sleep together, if you start dating
- she has at least 10 guys who are banging her on a regular basis and has another 3 boyfriends, all at the same time
- so she doesn't give a crap about you or any man



Yes the general idea is the same:
- have good fundamentals
- approach
- deep dive
- escalate

But the how you do it is very different.




And if you try to seduce a shy girl, that doesn't have much experience with guys, that has never been approach during the day, the way you'd do with a super hot, experienced woman, that has billionaires and celebrities crawling for her...

Well you won't have that much success.


Even acting super smooth and james bond-like may intimidate the girls you are trying to get.



I'm not saying the content is not good - IT'S GOLD!

Just saying that the majority of readers are normal guys who like normal girls and want to get into a relationship. Or maybe even guys who want that one special girl. To them the advice : "forget her" or "sleep with lots of women" may not apply.

Yes there are guys who want to be master seducers and sleep with hundreds of women and date the movie stars and super models.
But those are a very small part of your readership.


The majority of readers, the once that will buy your books and products are the loosers. The ones who are not smooth and have no experience with women or dating.


I know you, Chase and you other writers are experienced and good with women. But you must think from the perspective of the majority who are not like you.




I'm not sure if this is cultural difference between Europe and the US, but things are very different. But I can tell you (since I live in Europe) that the advice you give for the US won't work in Europe(maybe it'll in the UK), or it won't work in China or Japan or India, or Russia, etc.

And even if you american readers love the info - the readers from the rest of the world won't.

What I'm trying to say is you should diversify your team of writers.

Get guys from:
- central Europe
- Scandinavian Europe
- Eastern Europe (where I'm from)
- Asia
- Russia
- Australia
- etc.

Cause you can check your google analytics and I bet that like 50% of your readership is not from the US.

And I know you have a few articles about different countries but to the regular readers from those countries - 1 article is not enough.

I know you can't be that experienced in seducing in all those other countries - so get guys who live there their whole lives and know how seduction works there.


You can open a new section called "Seducing outside the US" and have all those articles written by those guys, go there.




For the rest of the readers, what do you think?

Does my idea make any sense to you?

Would you want GC to expand to outside the US?

Or any other ideas, just write them bellow.

 

[Ryan]

I agree what your saying, but Chase's reply would be that if you know how to attract a beautiful woman, a regular girl would easily fall for you.

I would like a European writer too. Chase may not realise it, but he uses a lot of words and phrases that just aren't used here in England, so i would have to check out urban dictionary or just infer.

Also, i think NarrowJ has excellent articles because he's very concise, clear and uses a lot of examples. Chase and other writers are good for a beginner, but half of the articles are just dull reports on research papers and Chase's anecdotes. These are good for a beginner who may doubt him, but when i've read it all before, i just feel despair and wish he would 'cut to the chase'

 

[trashKENNUT]

HI Guys,

As a reader, this is my opinion.

Not every guy wants the hottest women you can imagine. Most guys want a beautiful-in a cute way, girl. A nice regular girl. The kind that doesn't have tons of guys hitting on her every day. That hasn't been with 30-40 guys.

The kind that is shy and maybe likes you enough that she want's to be with you.

Getting over the mentality that the girl you like by putting her on pedestal or trying to save is something of an aftereffect of a Feminist-based or Society-based upbringing.

But aside that, when you see that "regular girl" who gets hit on, and then suddenly she doesn't want to be with you. It's an awakening for her as much as it is for you.

The awakening is,

1)She realizing she can pick any guys she like, even the most decent one by enough social value and people's skills. (There are some fat girls who are cool and know how to get guys)

2)You realizing that Women don't think the way Men think. It's how Women think.

Cause most articles left me with a feeling of:
- women don't care about you
- they have had sooo much experience that you don't matter to her
- she doesn't care if you talk to her, if you go out together, if you sleep together, if you start dating
- she has at least 10 guys who are banging her on a regular basis and has another 3 boyfriends, all at the same time
- so she doesn't give a crap about you or any man

1)Women care about you, but ultimately, just like you, Everyone is about themselves.
2)With hot girls and pretty girls, and decent ones have guys in social circles going after them.
3)She cares if you sleep with her, but any other than that, Women are like "Japanese Imperialist of the past" when it comes to Autorejection. When you don't make things happen, they cut men fast, even the relatively decent ones. You will be surprised.
4)Not really for this one, but the more beautiful she is, the more occasional guys keep hitting on her, that includes social circle gatherings, Facebook comments and friend requests, classes, and sometimes on the streets.
5)She has too many guys contacting her, and She needs to care about her family and friends. (just as you need to care for your family and friends)

I'm not sure if this is cultural difference between Europe and the US, but things are very different. But I can tell you (since I live in Europe) that the advice you give for the US won't work in Europe(maybe it'll in the UK), or it won't work in China or Japan or India, or Russia, etc.

One of the best things of Girlschase i ever encounter that puts Girlschase beyond the rest and why i want to teach my children if possible.

Girlschase is almost universal (but of course, with every country and culture, there's adjustments like cultural difference.)

Thailand - Many trannies, Ladyboys
Phillipines - Hair on arms a lot more visible compared to Western Women.
China - Armpit hair (LOLX)

and many more.

I noted this myself with other guys field reports and what i learn on here, technical stuff that most people find it boring. Examples are

1) Younger women
2) Text messages
3) Fundamentals
4) Older women
5) Auto rejection
6) Expectation Setting
7) Friendzone
8) 3 flavors of Sexy (by Chase recently)

This is why i believe Chase, He doesn't sugarcoat stuff. He tells it as it is while trying to understand where you are, and be relatable as possible.

Cause you can check your google analytics and I bet that like 50% of your readership is not from the US.

I believe this is exactly why Girlschase is universal. It answers for itself.

Zac

 

[Drck]

Yeap. IMO seduction for average guy should be much easier. Don't make me wrong, reading through the GC stuff I can only go WOW! It is a freaking science and great job. But most (average) guys don't need it.

Agreed, there is nothing wrong with average woman, say 5-6/10, nice regular girl, and she may even have much better personality than those with looks 8-9. I mentioned it several times, good fundamentals are good enough. There is no need to "seduce" her, you are a guy and she is a girl. Seduction is DONE right there, it is natural, she has a pussy and you have a dick. Nothing more attractive is needed. Get her attention using good fundamentals, then simply ask her out. If she goes with you get physical, wait till she gives you a window, be a man and nail her. Try 3-4 times, give her couple of dates, if she is not going to do it she is not attracted enough. Move on, you are wasting your time, she's already dumped you. No games, but you do need abundance mentality, it just won't happen with first couple of girls.

On the other hand, if she is really interested she will make it very easy on you. She will invite you out herself, she will start touching you fairy quickly, and she will even want to jump you. All you have to do is "just be there" and be ready to nail her once she gives you window. And if you do, she will want to keep you, she will do anything for you. Good fundamentals!

What is the obsession with getting 8-9 every other day or weekend? I don't get it. A lot of them are high maintenance. They know they have high value, they are not stupid, they know exactly who they want to marry. A lot of guys will run and break their back so they can provide for them, no matter how many dudes she slept with before. Even if you marry such girl, other guys will constantly be hitting on her. How do I know? I was hitting on one myself, poor woman, almost broke her marriage. It wasn't fair towards the other guy, he was just regular good, nice and hard working guy. And trust me, you are "just a guy", there are plenty of attractive guys she'll meet. Lots of dicks she might like. You and I are not any better.

My suspicion is that most guys want to get married anyway. They want to have a little fun, seduce couple of 8-9 and settle down. I guess that is a norm in society, but why would somebody want to do it to himself with 8-9? They simply don't worth it, after some while they are not any better than the rest. Too much work, too much maintenance, too much supplication, too much providing, too much chasing. Even learning all this material here is a form of supplication, form of chasing. By learning about her you are making her more valuable. You only pretend that you don't chase, but the reality is that you are or you want to become master chaser. You are chasing, all you do is covering your tracks by pretending that you are not chasing. The more you hiding the better chaser you are.

And if you are the true man (I'm afraid to say alpha), you don't need woman at all. Any form of relationship except fucking is clinging, it is just a sign of insecurity, beta-ism, desire to keep her and to provide for her, to have Feeeeelings for her. Other than fucking here and there, you don't care about women. You learn nothing about women, you know nothing about women, you do nothing to seduce them. You don't want to keep them, you don't want to provide for them, you don't ask what are the names of their cats, and you don't care about their life either. You just want to fuck, have sex, and you ask for it indirectly, you push for it by suggesting time (now) and (your) place, and this is you mental and physical frame. She knows it right away, she feels it, and she will either reject you or go with you. There is no middle ground. If she goes with you, you have to nail her as soon as she gives you a window, just be patient. If you don't do it, that male frame of yours will collapse. In her eyes you will became boy who pretended to be a man. She may give you another window because she feels sorry for you, she saw something that resemble a man and she doesn't want to loose it, but if you fail that one too she will dump you.

There you go, friend zone only if lucky, otherwise she won't even talk to you. She will be quite disappointed, and in such case she could care less about your hurt feelings. That is why you have to have a strong frame, very strong, and you don't move it by an inch no matter what she says or does, no matter how sweet she is and what "tricks" she tries, no matter whether she rejects you or not. Be happy for those rejections, embrace them! You won because your frame didn't collapse. It is her who gave up. And if you dump her before she dumps you, oh my. She will come back, she will want you back, she will even beg for you to come back - because she will want that revenge dump.

She knows this man-frame quite well, she sees it right away because it is just so different than most of other guys have guts to do. That is why she can jump such guy so easily if she wants to, and even if she doesn't she is still thinking about it very deeply. And she is thinking, no matter whether she is single, married or taken. She knows that she never has to worry about becoming his mamma, she knows she doesn't have to worry much about his hurt feelings...

 

[MisterX]

My point was different from what you guys seem to think.


My point is that the majority of guys who stumble uppon GC, want to get that one special girl, or want to get a girlfriends ASAP.

They don't care about spending years to learn how to seduce the hottest of women.



I KNOW the right way is the Chase way, but those guys don't know it and they DON'T CARE.

As soon as they see that GC doesn't offer what they want - they'll leave and BOOM Chase lost a bunch of customers, to someone who has a worse product but is wrapping it better suited to what the people want.


That was my point - that the approach of GC is to provide only for the future Casanovas, not the guys who'll read 3-4 articles and go get a girl and never return to GC. But those guys could've become customers if Chase had approached it differently.



Sorry for being to technical and thinking only about profits. But since business is my specialty and especially online sales and making money from websites - I just analyze every website I read. It's like a reflex to figure out what need's to be done in order to make as much $ as you can. I know you might not thing of it but I wrote down all the little tweaks that can make GC 2-3 times more profitable, and it took a whole A4 sheet to write them all down

The point was that the problems of GC are business problems that keep Chase from having bigger profits. Not that there are problems with the usability of the site.

 

[Ryan]

I think you should stop worrying about the financial security of a guy who you've never met/spoken to. It's not like he cares about you, me or anyone else here (apart from the chosen few).

 

[DesiBro]

GirlsChase being able to pay its bills is very important to all of us. Running a website and attracting well-informed, experienced writers isn't cheap.

 

[trashKENNUT]

MisterX,

I hope one of the moderators, or Chase note your opinions, But to Ryan here, To say he doesn't care. that's a comment i don't really see valid, but everyone has different opinions.

For a guy who is successful with women who bothers enough to entertain beginners questions, and questions not related to his article, and for me, As a visitor and board member to his website, i have nothing but to be thankful, really.

Zac

 

[MisterX]

ZacAdam, that's my point.

Not to bitch or complain.

Just giving my opinion. If the moderators and Chase like it and it helps them - great.

If they decide I don't know what I'm talking about - it's their decision.


I said what I wanted to say. It was said with good intentions so whatever happens, happens.

 

[Franco]

MisterX,

I can't really say that I agree with much of what your original post was about (about how Chase informs us that women don't care about us and anything else in general -- I never got that feeling from any of his articles), and I'm someone who wasn't prolific with women until beginning to read this website. I had the occasional lay/girlfriend from social circle or party hook-ups, but cold approaching was pretty much non-existent to me. But anyway, I wanted to address this:

That was my point - that the approach of GC is to provide only for the future Casanovas, not the guys who'll read 3-4 articles and go get a girl and never return to GC. But those guys could've become customers if Chase had approached it differently.

If you think you can take a guy who has absolutely zero experience with women (to the point where he's scared to talk to them and still thinks that women don't want sex) and write 3-4 articles that can teach him how to get the girlfriend he wants, then I would love to see it!

Part of what Chase emphasizes on this website is that it takes time and extreme dedication to be successful in the art of picking up women. You can't read 3-4 articles, do a few push-ups, shave your beard, and go out and expect to know how to take home a lover/girlfriend unless you have a solid grasp of what you are doing! Now, if you want to achieve mastery, then Chase equips you here with the tools to do that. I am a perfectionist at the core, so the only reason I want the hottest girls with the best personalities is that I refuse to settle for anything less. I would be unhappy with that. But not everyone feels that way. Regardless of whether or not you want an absolute bombshell girlfriend or just a cute one that will make you happy, there is at least a 6-12 month learning curve (at the bare minimum) to learn how to grasp the basics of what it takes to go out and take home women either as lovers as girlfriends -- and that's even the slightly-above-average "cute" ones.

Chase doesn't want to advertise his material to the "average" guy and give him "some" tips to pick up a girl because only knowing "some" things isn't good enough. There is a lot that new guys on here need to learn to even begin to start having romantic success with women. So when you say that it is hard to market his material to just the casual individual, then yes, you are correct -- it is very difficult to market this material. But I believe Chase would agree when I say that he only wants to market this material to the people who aren't going to half-ass their way to success. This is more than just a business to him; he is trying to provide as much material as possible to people who really want to put in the effort to become successful because he knows those are the ones who will actually take the time to read it and use it.

This website may help pay the bills for him, but I believe that Chase really values the people who put in the work and effort to make themselves better people rather than those are just looking for shortcuts to success.

That's my opinion. =)

- Franco

 

[Ryan]

GirlsChase being able to pay its bills is very important to all of us. Running a website and attracting well-informed, experienced writers isn't cheap.

What - $20 - $40 a year to keep a website running isn't cheap? whatever. I'm quite sure their writing is voluntary anyway.

This website may help pay the bills for him, but I believe that Chase really values the people who put in the work and effort to make themselves better people rather than those are just looking for shortcuts to success.

We'll, it'll be nice if he'd come on the forums to actually help people who need his help or encouragement, rather than always replying to the same usual suspects.

 

[Franco]

Ryan,

We'll, it'll be nice if he'd come on the forums to actually help people who need his help or encouragement, rather than always replying to the same usual suspects.

Almost everyone on this board needs help, Ryan. He'll help out when he has time, but the forum is primarily a place for the members of the website to have discussions and help each other. Considering that he runs the entire business, he has a lot more to do than to just log into the forum and answer every question that is asked. As someone who has been doing it for over a year on this board now, I can also tell you that it gets very tiring answering questions that you've already answered a hundred times before, and Chase has been answering these types of questions for 6+ years. It's surprising to me in the first place that he's still able to pump out as many lengthy articles as he does (but then again, I'm not as passionate about writing).

The idea of this website is that it will eventually become a place where you can find all of the information you need without having to look or ask elsewhere. And just for reference: I had never cold approached before finding this website. I started cold approaching after reading the articles, and the forum did not exist yet. I just repeatedly re-read articles and went out and practiced and learned on my own until I eventually starting taking women to bed. The forum popped up after my fourth or fifth cold-approach lay. The moral of the story is that much of the information you need to be successful already exists here, but you need to be analyzing your own interactions and re-referencing the material so you can see where you need to tweak yourself to have success.

And there are plenty of guys here who are giving sound advice. I am in charge of providing the ranks, so if a higher-ranked member is giving you advice, it's better to just trust it first and try it before you try to find reasons why you don't think it's true. It'll be easier to understand women once you actually start applying the material and experiencing everything for yourself.

- Franco

 

[Ryan]

Ryan,

We'll, it'll be nice if he'd come on the forums to actually help people who need his help or encouragement, rather than always replying to the same usual suspects.

Almost everyone on this board needs help, Ryan. He'll help out when he has time, but the forum is primarily a place for the members of the website to have discussions and help each other. Considering that he runs the entire business, he has a lot more to do than to just log into the forum and answer every question that is asked. As someone who has been doing it for over a year on this board now, I can also tell you that it gets very tiring answering questions that you've already answered a hundred times before, and Chase has been answering these types of questions for 6+ years. It's surprising to me in the first place that he's still able to pump out as many lengthy articles as he does (but then again, I'm not as passionate about writing).

The idea of this website is that it will eventually become a place where you can find all of the information you need without having to look or ask elsewhere. And just for reference: I had never cold approached before finding this website. I started cold approaching after reading the articles, and the forum did not exist yet. I just repeatedly re-read articles and went out and practiced and learned on my own until I eventually starting taking women to bed. The forum popped up after my fourth or fifth cold-approach lay. The moral of the story is that much of the information you need to be successful already exists here, but you need to be analyzing your own interactions and re-referencing the material so you can see where you need to tweak yourself to have success.

And there are plenty of guys here who are giving sound advice. I am in charge of providing the ranks, so if a higher-ranked member is giving you advice, it's better to just trust it first and try it before you try to find reasons why you don't think it's true. It'll be easier to understand women once you actually start applying the material and experiencing everything for yourself.

- Franco

I'm not trying to be critical of him. I was just questioning what you meant, because from the looks of things, he just comes here to congratulate a few people on their 23nd lay. And then he returns to the forum the month after, congratulating the same people. So to me, he's just a writer and a congratulator(?). There are so many people on this forum who do so much more than him, but don't receive the same credit.
I don't think I've seen thedoctor ever ask a question here. He's just here to help others, whoever they may be, for no incentive of helping his business or money. So he, and people like him, are people who've really shown the 'value' you described. Myself, i haven't seen that part of value from Chase yet.

 

[Mr.Rob]

Dude Ryan be a little more grateful dude.

Chase created this board. All the help, encouragement, insight, and motivation you've received from the boards wouldn't have existed if Chase never created it. So if

Myself, i haven't seen that part of value from Chase yet.

you want to know Chase's value to the boards well your looking at it.

Besides Chase didn't create the boards to spend time picking apart every field report and every question asked in the beginner and general boards. He created it so he wouldn't have to answer all those questions in the comments under each article, along with providing all of us with a FREE positive atmosphere to share ideas, collaborate, and connect people of similar passion.

If you've noticed Chase seems to go on the boards as a source of enjoyment/relaxation. If you look at the stuff he comments on he does so because those topics interest him in some form or fashion. Whether it be a certain person, topic, potentially good field or lay report with certain areas of interest (guy sets fun chase frame, failed escalation window, overcoming LMR in certain situation). Along with seeing his impact on helping people find the path to be successful.

Besides you do the same thing. We all do. Nobody here comments on stuff that they don't find interesting or significantly beneficial to them.

My advice Ryan, though you'll probably ignore it, is to practice being more grateful. For your sake.

-Rob

 

[Ryan]

Ryan,

We'll, it'll be nice if he'd come on the forums to actually help people who need his help or encouragement, rather than always replying to the same usual suspects.

Almost everyone on this board needs help. As someone who has been doing it for over a year on this board now, I can also tell you that it gets very tiring answering questions that you've already answered a hundred times before, and Chase has been answering these types of questions for 6+ years.

Well, lets see the usual suspects who his last 10 posts were to: (thread starter and level)

Himself (4)
Zphix (4)
Zphix (4)
HONKS (1)
Himself (4)
The Byronic man (2)
ZacAdam (3)
Eric (3)
ZacAdam (3)
ZacAdam (3)

I mean, apart from 1 guy, they're all people who are well capable, and their levels show it. And if we all need help like you say, then it's really odd that he's replying to the most capable people loads, and the least capable people at barely 10% of the time.

I've never wanted any help from him, but i couldn't help but notice he posts on only the experienced guys' field reports literally every time he comes on. What makes my field reports or (old) Journal less worthy than Zphix, Jake or ZacAdam's?
I just wanted a little encouragement from the main man like 'hey ryan, you're doing well. your process is on the right path, but you could do this ####. yours, chase', and repeat to the rest of the beginners on the journals. This would like 5 minutes at most and wouldn't go amiss. But I'm not part of Chase's business plan, so it's not like I matter.

And there are plenty of guys here who are giving sound advice. I am in charge of providing the ranks, so if a higher-ranked member is giving you advice, it's better to just trust it first and try it before you try to find reasons why you don't think it's true. It'll be easier to understand women once you actually start applying the material and experiencing everything for yourself.

- Franco

Why aren't I level 2? Metomeya and I began at the same time, we're about the same ability (same amount of approaches, he's got 1 number and a date, i've got 2 numbers). I'm not saying there's a conspiracy against me but :| But i don't want to be level 2, just because i pointed it out because then what's the point?

Oh forget it, i don't want to argue and this so is my last post here. But i am far from ungrateful.

 

[Mr.Rob]

agree to disagree

 

[Nuncle]

Ryan, look at how he replies to every single article comment, often in great detail. Effectively this is free coaching. I'd say that's incredibly generous. So much so that in his place I would probably only allow comments to subscribers.

As for the "getting a girlfriend" issue the advice has always been that you are more likely to get her as a girlfriend if you sleep with her quickly, so there is no difference in the game you would run for a one night stand.

And I really do not think it valid to say that PuAs are only successful because they are "good with women". That's a circular argument.

Nor to argue that they have physical advantages. That is just making excuses for yourself because you have hit a plateau. Even if you look like John Candy there's a huge % difference you can make to that by working on your fundamentals and even if there wasn't it's more than possible to attract hot women with your force of personality.

You'd still lust after an ugly girl with a really sexy body, right? Girls think the same way, so if you are really ugly then get yourself down the gym and then start wearing t-shirts.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Ryan,

I am disappointed you have to label names so as to note that "Oh we didn't help the guys". But one who doesn't take advice here doesn't make things personal, here. IT's all you.

Zac

 

[MisterX]

wow, my thread started something I hadn't intended.


But I guess it's for the best. So some guys may say what bothers them with GC.

Not to blame or rant or sth like that. But in the form of constructive criticism and giving your opinion.


Just say what bothers you so others might help fix the problem or you can discuss what bothers you.


Don't be shy guys.

 

[Franco]

Ryan,

I've never wanted any help from him, but i couldn't help but notice he posts on only the experienced guys' field reports literally every time he comes on. What makes my field reports or (old) Journal less worthy than Zphix, Jake or ZacAdam's?
I just wanted a little encouragement from the main man like 'hey ryan, you're doing well. your process is on the right path, but you could do this ####. yours, chase', and repeat to the rest of the beginners on the journals. This would like 5 minutes at most and wouldn't go amiss. But I'm not part of Chase's business plan, so it's not like I matter.

What I would like to ask is, how is this any different from a homeless person asking someone for money? Sure, I would love to help out all of the homeless people in the world and give them a place to live, but there are so many of them that it would literally be impossible, and NONE of these homeless people offer any value to me for doing so. You'll give them cash, they'll smile, and you'll never see them again. There was no work involved on their part.

What I am pointing out is that there are plenty of members on this board who feel like the information that Chase has provided is more than they ever could have asked for -- and that's exactly how I felt when I first came here when there wasn't even a forum to work with. I felt like there was an abundance of amazing information that shouldn't have been free; I almost felt like I was stealing it! Now, it's up to everyone here to determine how they feel about the information and whether or not it's worth their money or their time, and if they feel like it's not, then that is their decision. No one is forcing anyone here to do something that they don't want to do. I'd say it's a steal that at least the forum is free, so you'll always have people here to ask questions and get answers from.

Why aren't I level 2? Metomeya and I began at the same time, we're about the same ability (same amount of approaches, he's got 1 number and a date, i've got 2 numbers). I'm not saying there's a conspiracy against me but :| But i don't want to be level 2, just because i pointed it out because then what's the point?

The ranks are not a linear stat sheet. When I suggest new ranks to Chase, it is never based solely on how many approaches, dates, and lays you have. It is a combination of your understanding of the material, your ability to put it into practice, and how much success you have with it. After that, I start considering smaller things such as how active you are on the boards, how many of your posts are questions versus how many of your posts are legitimately helping others, and where I feel you are at compared to other members at that same level.

For example, you recently made a post asking whether or not all women actually want sex. This is fine, and these are the kinds of posts that will enlighten you. But it also shows me that you are still at the beginning of understanding how women think, which is a beginning step to being successful with women. When you look at most of the members who are at Rank 2, they are mostly individuals who have a solid grasp of (and believe in) the concepts taught here, and now they are going out and trying to put it into practice. I have confidence that anyone on these boards is capable of reaching Rank 4, but as I've stated before, it requires an extreme amount of determination and dedication as well as a certain level of humbleness to those who have had success and are trying to help you.

Don't worry so much about what rank you are. Just work on improving yourself and listening to good advice that is given to you, and I (and everyone else on the boards) will take notice. =)

I don't like to dodge any questions, so I hope that gives you a clear sense of where I'm coming from with all of this.

- Franco