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Went out pretty late this Saturday, around 12:00, for context; most clubs close at 2:00 here.
Before I get into the breakdown of the night, I am going to briefly mention sticking points and what I've done about them. It think this is important cause by getting better at these ones, I think I uncovered some new ones.
All the sticking points I've been working on and have been improving:
1. Going out solo. I am meeting regulars now, or sometimes I will meet people who go out by themselves too. This makes base-building so much easier cause I always have someone to return to talk to. I am starting to look like the guy who just knows everyone.
2. My emotional management is getting better and better (meditation pays off big). I am less focused on myself and more, and more focused on the girls.
3. My hooking is getting better. I really adjusted it for loud nightclubs. Eye contact + nonsensical fun topics for verbals + physicality work really well. But it is quite a lot depended on my own energy. The old adage "It's not what you say, but how you say it." comes to mind. As long as it is fun, they don't need to hear everything. The trick is to keep talking even if they don't hear you, along with pauses for EC. Also, smiling while talking in their ear works wonders, as they can see your smile with their peripheral vision.
Before I get into the breakdown of the night, I am going to briefly mention sticking points and what I've done about them. It think this is important cause by getting better at these ones, I think I uncovered some new ones.
All the sticking points I've been working on and have been improving:
1. Going out solo. I am meeting regulars now, or sometimes I will meet people who go out by themselves too. This makes base-building so much easier cause I always have someone to return to talk to. I am starting to look like the guy who just knows everyone.
2. My emotional management is getting better and better (meditation pays off big). I am less focused on myself and more, and more focused on the girls.
3. My hooking is getting better. I really adjusted it for loud nightclubs. Eye contact + nonsensical fun topics for verbals + physicality work really well. But it is quite a lot depended on my own energy. The old adage "It's not what you say, but how you say it." comes to mind. As long as it is fun, they don't need to hear everything. The trick is to keep talking even if they don't hear you, along with pauses for EC. Also, smiling while talking in their ear works wonders, as they can see your smile with their peripheral vision.
Went out to the usual place I go to. I hit the bar and I get a drink. After that, I position myself to a next to this two set. I like doing proximity opens instead of walking all the way across the club. However, there is this dude next to me so I start talking to him to get the social gears rolling. Turns out he has already opened them and dude was also going out solo. Then I started talking to one of the girls. She was wearing all red and a Santa cap, so naturally I start calling her Mrs. Claus.
"Hello there Mrs. Claus. What am I getting for Christmas this year? Keep in mind I've been a naughty boy."
"Haha, well if you've been naughty you get nothing, you know the rules."
"I won't have that. I am not waiting for another whole year."
Her friend looked way hotter, so I was looking for a way to position myself and talk to her. I just needed to do the bare minimum so I built comfort with Mrs. Claus and make sure this switch isn't too obvious. I did finally manage to position myself, only to get blown out immediately. Her hot friend was just giving me nothing. I go back and talk to the dude some more only to have a new mixed set position themselves right next to me. So, I wait for them to settle in a bit and then I approach one of the girls, let's call her MILF, with a cold read. She was making a lot of expressions with her face and was bossing her friends, so it was an easy situational open.
"You have this like bossy energy about you. You must be a manager or something."
We talk for a bit. Turns out she actually wasn't a manager. However, Mrs. Claus now wants attention and she walks up and locks me in with one of those Christmas hats. Now, my positioning was very good. I was standing in the middle of two sets. There was even this moment where some guy tried approaching one of the girls, but he was super weird about it and agressively grabby, so I body block him for an easy DHV and tell the girls:
"What a weird guy, right?"
"Right. He is so creepy."
So I go back and forth a bit. Making sure to talk to the MILFs girl and guy friend, they were both pretty cool.
Now, I start slowly screening for logistics.
Turns out, that MILF is married with kids, and since she is there with her best friend and her bf, she is under judging eyes. Or is she?
Claus's hot friend had a boyfriend, or so she claimed. But she just wasn't bitting. Anything I would say or do, she would try to frame it as weird by giving me this stupid look.
Claus was really the only option, but she just wasn't my type.
And that were the decisions: go for Mrs Claus, try to isolate MILF or bounce with the new wingman I just met to another club, and see if there are better prospects. No decision was actually good and it was already getting late. And the later it gets the harder it gets to get into new clubs and pull.
So, I decide to bounce with the wing to another club, maybe I will find some girl I like there.
There were a few interactions but only one worth mentioning. I really started hitting it off with this one girl in the first few minutes but her friend came in and dragged her of.
"Hello there Mrs. Claus. What am I getting for Christmas this year? Keep in mind I've been a naughty boy."
"Haha, well if you've been naughty you get nothing, you know the rules."
"I won't have that. I am not waiting for another whole year."
Her friend looked way hotter, so I was looking for a way to position myself and talk to her. I just needed to do the bare minimum so I built comfort with Mrs. Claus and make sure this switch isn't too obvious. I did finally manage to position myself, only to get blown out immediately. Her hot friend was just giving me nothing. I go back and talk to the dude some more only to have a new mixed set position themselves right next to me. So, I wait for them to settle in a bit and then I approach one of the girls, let's call her MILF, with a cold read. She was making a lot of expressions with her face and was bossing her friends, so it was an easy situational open.
"You have this like bossy energy about you. You must be a manager or something."
We talk for a bit. Turns out she actually wasn't a manager. However, Mrs. Claus now wants attention and she walks up and locks me in with one of those Christmas hats. Now, my positioning was very good. I was standing in the middle of two sets. There was even this moment where some guy tried approaching one of the girls, but he was super weird about it and agressively grabby, so I body block him for an easy DHV and tell the girls:
"What a weird guy, right?"
"Right. He is so creepy."
So I go back and forth a bit. Making sure to talk to the MILFs girl and guy friend, they were both pretty cool.
Now, I start slowly screening for logistics.
Turns out, that MILF is married with kids, and since she is there with her best friend and her bf, she is under judging eyes. Or is she?
Claus's hot friend had a boyfriend, or so she claimed. But she just wasn't bitting. Anything I would say or do, she would try to frame it as weird by giving me this stupid look.
Claus was really the only option, but she just wasn't my type.
And that were the decisions: go for Mrs Claus, try to isolate MILF or bounce with the new wingman I just met to another club, and see if there are better prospects. No decision was actually good and it was already getting late. And the later it gets the harder it gets to get into new clubs and pull.
So, I decide to bounce with the wing to another club, maybe I will find some girl I like there.
There were a few interactions but only one worth mentioning. I really started hitting it off with this one girl in the first few minutes but her friend came in and dragged her of.
I have to be careful with adding new sticking points because I haven't quite fixed 100% fixed the previous ones and it's not good to focus on too many things at once, I think. But l am confident enough to say I am a good 40%-60% better at them. With that being said, it I still important for me to write them down. That way I can always go back and forth on what needs the most work at the moment.
New sticking points:
1. Talking too long with non-targets (for lack of a better term). Kinda ironic since the last few weeks I had the opposite problem of not talking enough to anyone and everyone.
2. Forgetting to run gambits in the moment. I want game to be more predictable for me. Like pushing buttons. I think I am relying too much on spontaneous situational openers (in other words, what comes to mind in the moment, usually something about the environment) simply cause they feel the most congruent for me to do and I know I will have the best delivery on them. Then, based on what she gives me I will riff. Sometimes if I can't think of anything I will delay the approach. I can't have that.
3. Decision making/killer instinct. @Bismarck 's recent lay report got me thinking about this. He successfully cut his losses and switched from his first choice to his second choice and got his dick wet instead of going home alone. Also, in one of the podcasts, Alek talked about how he was choosing between a hot Brazilian bombshell and the MILF that was into him, but then ended up going home alone. This clicked tonight for me.
Maybe if I tried for the MILF in the mixed set with bad logistics or the friend in the other two set that appeared to have been available even though I wasn't into her, maybe I've wouldn't have ended up club hopping to nowhere.
What to do about them:
1. Get there earlier and target select sooner, than stick to the decision and bring her home.
2. I need to memorise gambits better, so I have them at the top of my head. Also, remember to check cheat sheet.
3. See 1.
New sticking points:
1. Talking too long with non-targets (for lack of a better term). Kinda ironic since the last few weeks I had the opposite problem of not talking enough to anyone and everyone.
2. Forgetting to run gambits in the moment. I want game to be more predictable for me. Like pushing buttons. I think I am relying too much on spontaneous situational openers (in other words, what comes to mind in the moment, usually something about the environment) simply cause they feel the most congruent for me to do and I know I will have the best delivery on them. Then, based on what she gives me I will riff. Sometimes if I can't think of anything I will delay the approach. I can't have that.
3. Decision making/killer instinct. @Bismarck 's recent lay report got me thinking about this. He successfully cut his losses and switched from his first choice to his second choice and got his dick wet instead of going home alone. Also, in one of the podcasts, Alek talked about how he was choosing between a hot Brazilian bombshell and the MILF that was into him, but then ended up going home alone. This clicked tonight for me.
Maybe if I tried for the MILF in the mixed set with bad logistics or the friend in the other two set that appeared to have been available even though I wasn't into her, maybe I've wouldn't have ended up club hopping to nowhere.
What to do about them:
1. Get there earlier and target select sooner, than stick to the decision and bring her home.
2. I need to memorise gambits better, so I have them at the top of my head. Also, remember to check cheat sheet.
3. See 1.
