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The Obligation of Fulfilling Expectations

ramirezs316

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This is not only a post for any man who aspires to be more than he is, but for any man who is at that point where he has potential to be the guy of any girl's dreams.

After many failures and struggles, I have now come to a very successful and confident place in my life. With an interesting profession, a wealth of ambitions and endeavors, the body of a male model, and a distinct and European face, I realize that, on the surface, I have a lot of power. Perhaps I've had it longer than I would like to admit. But now is the time for me, since things are stable, to use it.

I am still getting accustomed to stares from girls, and the perception that my background creates. Where once I would assume that a girl was looking past me or not carrying a sexual thought about me in her head, now I can just feel the energy coming off of them. I'm being looked at as "different" from other guys; the mysterious kind of different. It's a scary and intimidating position, considering that I've never been an overtly physical or sexual person. It's like waking up the same person you've always been, yet the whole world around you has suddenly changed its opinion on you for the better.

I speak of this because recently I had a great opportunity to be that guy girls now perceive me to be. I met a smart, sexy girl a few months back. I opened to her with ease, I connected to her without even trying, and I projected a calm and cool air that made me irresistible to her. She initially thought I was actually European, and my ambitions and many hobbies made me look naturally adventurous. But because of my stunted and, I'll be honest, naive mentality, I couldn't give her what she wanted. The way she looked at me that first night, I could have been her dream guy. But the thought of escalating and trying to go back to her place that night never crossed my mind. Nor did the thought that even if she still texted me weeks later, her attraction could still be in jeopardy. Nor the thought that even if she reciprocated physically and agreed to a second date, she could change her mind at a moment's notice. Hell, the thought of sleeping with a girl first and then trying to make her my girlfriend was, until a few months ago, a foreign concept to me.

I could have been more to her and I wasn't. And when she rejected me, I reverted to my old high school self, the self that gave away all his cards, took the situation harder than he should have, and persisted even when he knew he shouldn't. I grew feelings and acted on them, instead of respecting hers. When attraction is no longer mutual, it becomes a selfish enterprise. It becomes about one person trying to will another. And yet I still looked for signs that somehow she had genuine feelings for me and it was merely the inconvenience of her schedule or friends or her need to be single and figure things out. I had hidden myself so well and yet grew weak in an instant.

So when I found myself face to face with her in a public place, just saying "hi," she no longer had stars in her eyes or longing in her smile. She was tense and short and could barely look at me. I couldn't figure out whether this was who she really was or if I had made her into this cold person. And I realized that it didn't matter how much we had in common, or how attracted she was to me, or how many boxes I checked off her list, I had betrayed who she thought I was, and she was done with me. She had been done with me well before I persisted. She had been done with me the minute I couldn't be the person she wanted that night.

I'm confidant in who I am now, and I've had the will to cultivate the traits that I've been blessed with. So I feel it is my obligation to learn, experience, and fulfill the expectations that I have been afforded. If I can be a dream guy to some starry-eyed girl, then I feel I owe it to her and to myself to create that experience. It's what I've always wanted and what she's been seeking. I don't know how long this opportunity will last for me, though given my newfound temperament, I think it has the potential to get even better. For any guy here who has lucked into or grown into the skills, the looks, or the personality of a dream guy, I say use them in any way you can. We owe it to those girls sneaking peeks in the corner, waiting for us to talk to them.
 

ashutosh

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"when attraction is no longer
mutual, it becomes a selfish enterprise."
if this line is created by you than kudos coz this line is perfect for all those beginners like me trying to fight of "onetitis"....an good post all in all. Btw can u tel me how you developed yourself into an 'dream guy' type. I mean what did you first work on your body language, mindset?
 

Garrett

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ashutosh said:
"when attraction is no longer
mutual, it becomes a selfish enterprise."
if this line is created by you than kudos coz this line is perfect for all those beginners like me trying to fight of "onetitis"....an good post all in all. Btw can u tel me how you developed yourself into an 'dream guy' type. I mean what did you first work on your body language, mindset?

Ashutosh,

Thanks for sharing your story with me man, I really admire your humbleness and ability to communicate your story effectively. I was able to imagine everything you were saying and was able to develop a more in depth comprehension of what you're going through!

Strange how you posted this as it coincidentally coincides with something I'm currently going through. For some reason, these past few days I've been feeling 'invincible'. Before I would think too much, especially when I was depressed. Now it's as if I'm just living in the moment of things, not overthinking, and actually performing better as a result. I was able to develop myself into a genuine guy after going through being an ass hole. I'm comfortable with the few friends I've kept around, and it really hits home when you realize who your true friends really are. Sometimes, it's good to take a step back if you're one of those driven, ambitious people who are never satisfied, because sometimes you need to look back on your accomplishments and really appreciate the hard work and effort you put in to get to where you are today. It can sometimes be a motivational boost when times get rough.

I like the quote you stated about attraction becoming a selfish enterprise. I think it's important to always look at yourself first when something goes wrong, and if something feels wrong, keep digging until you uncover the root of the problem, where you can take further action to diffuse an unfortunate situation and to take away from it a valuable life lesson.

Cheers, thanks for the insightful post!
Garrett
 
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ashutosh

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you summed it right. I was always the shy nice guy But At present i am in the bad boy stage and that invincible aura makes me feel like im the most attractive guy in the world,girls stare @ me like crazy.
And its surprising how girls can recognize that 'X factor' subconsiously. I just changed my body language and attitude and they stare as if i got a makeover from the best designer of the world. :p
 

ramirezs316

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ashutosh said:
"when attraction is no longer
mutual, it becomes a selfish enterprise."
if this line is created by you than kudos coz this line is perfect for all those beginners like me trying to fight of "onetitis"....an good post all in all. Btw can u tel me how you developed yourself into an 'dream guy' type. I mean what did you first work on your body language, mindset?

My mindset changed once I caught a few breaks. I got a good job last year and was able to start interacting with other people again. Making new friends who are girls really helps. I've made five girl friends since last year and it's helped me in how I approach them.

In terms of being a dream guy, I take pride in my physical appearance and I think girls have started noticing it. I work out six days a week. I eat healthy. I don't drink or smoke. And I don't apologize for these things. I've cultivated a tremendous will power and motivation in sculpting myself. I also act and direct, and am trying to become a filmmaker, so communication is key in trying to be a professional. Acting is a powerful tool for communicating. You don't necessarily become a good liar, but you are able to start seeing yourself almost as a character in a movie you are writing as you go. You become self aware and can start dictating certain terms of your life.

Now, granted, a lot of girls may think I'm the dream guy, but I'm still in the infancy stages of trying to actually be the dream guy. And I'm still having trouble finding girls I like (see: https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=602&p=3097#p3097) I have a lot of work to do, but I feel I've put in the work and the struggle to be that person from here on out.
 

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Generally speaking, if you're creating expectations, you arguably have something of a moral obligation to follow through on them, whether those expectations are sex, an exclusive relationship, a roller coaster ride of emotions, or whatever else they may be, so long as they're beneficial to the girl (or whomever you're creating them in).

No such thing as right and wrong in the real world, of course, but if you create expectations you don't follow through on, that's how people get hurt and turn bitter. There will always be people who have unrealistic expectations no matter how clear you are (or think you are) about setting the right expectations in the beginning, and these kinds of over-emotional / over-sensitive / over-dreamy types of people are hard to avoid hurting (and often better simply avoiding if you're the kind they'll hoist unrealistic expectations on), but for the most part, if you're creating expectations, understand that you need to fulfill them, or people will get hurt.

If you can't satisfy them, leave off creating them! And if you create them, bring them to fruition. Simple enough philosophy to live by in practice, but there'd be a lot less broken hearts out there if people actually did live by it.

Chase
 

ashutosh

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Chase while i was getting hurt for a while , i developed a motto for myself "Expect the worse". So even if something below average happens you dont get sad.bcoz u already expected the worse. Is this a good mindset to follow?
 

Chase

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Ash-

Happy birthday! And, awesome to hear about your female friends - sounds like you're making some bounds.

ashutosh said:
Chase while i was getting hurt for a while , i developed a motto for myself "Expect the worse". So even if something below average happens you dont get sad.bcoz u already expected the worse. Is this a good mindset to follow?

I prefer this motto:

Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

There was a study on university students who took exams that looked at who felt how about those exams. I read it while in college, and it made me change my thinking about things. It found that the people who feared doing poorly felt even worse if they DID do poorly, and kind of shrugged it off if they did well. Meanwhile, people who were excited about doing well felt comparatively NOT as bad if they found out they did poorly, and they were happier when they got good grades, too.

Essentially, while there may be some better planning associated with pessimism, you're actually better off expecting better outcomes, whether you get better outcomes OR whether you get worse outcomes. You're actually more miserable if you expect things to end poorly, no matter what actually happens.

Trippy, right?

So-

Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

Expect you'll have things work out perfectly, but have your plans and contingencies and options in place anyway... just in case.

Chase
 

ashutosh

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Yaa thats actually better. Never thought it in that way.Will surely get accustomed with my new motto in few days.
 
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