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Wolfie

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Met a girl, she gave me her number I really didn't had to put any efforts, she played with her hair and was love dovey. We were drifting to the conversation, it was very fluid and she kept making small talks, during the conversation we talked about getting drunk and all and I said when people are drunk they only think of eat, fight and fuck, she blushed hard, she also asked me what made me write books and told her a romantic encounter with a mysterious lady (which is true) and she didn't belive it but was very nervous. She is chubby and kinda cute the way she gave me her number was very smooth.

Pushing for date on a text, I am not really sure what to do, I am somewhat attracted to her and half of the time I don't feel like developing romantic relationship and just keep it professional (an artist supporting another artist).


P. S - I was thinking that to sexualise things on text so that the conversation doesn't get boring.

What do you guys think
 

Wolfie

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Now I am texting with her and she seems like the girl who is into bdsm, she also reads erotic novel
 

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Now I am texting with her and she seems like the girl who is into bdsm, she also reads erotic novel
That's good! Probably.
Are you into BDSM? If you don't know much about it, ask her in a calibrated way.
If she has a dom fetish, don't try to be submissive until you're actually in bed. You're the one with a pair of cods not her, act like it.

Absolutely start talking sex. Be confident but careful.

Please keep us updated.
 

Wolfie

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That's good! Probably.
Are you into BDSM? If you don't know much about it, ask her in a calibrated way.
If she has a dom fetish, don't try to be submissive until you're actually in bed. You're the one with a pair of cods not her, act like it.

Absolutely start talking sex. Be confident but careful.

Please keep us updated.
I am into bdsm and I have texted her "so you must be curious about bdsm".

Kind of scared about what's going to happen
 

Wolfie

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The problem is it's all texting now I think I should schedule a date soon
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

Wolfie

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I think I fucked it up she texted saying "nah, not really".
 

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This whole thing seems very complicated
You're making it complicated. One of the main rules of seduction is do not sexualize over text (at least, don't advance the sexualization). Just keep it on idle until you get her out.

The process of getting a girl into bed is very simple. You just build a bit of rapport, ask logistics, set up a date, touch and sexualize on the date, and pull.

The problem is it's all texting now I think I should schedule a date soon

As soon as you're on text, it's all about the date. It's not about trying to get her horny first. If she likes you she'll date you, that's where it happens.
 

Wolfie

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You're making it complicated. One of the main rules of seduction is do not sexualize over text (at least, don't advance the sexualization). Just keep it on idle until you get her out.

The process of getting a girl into bed is very simple. You just build a bit of rapport, ask logistics, set up a date, touch and sexualize on the date, and pull.



As soon as you're on text, it's all about the date. It's not about trying to get her horny first. If she likes you she'll date you, that's where it happens.
Thank this makes sense a lot! Will u update you guys
 

Wolfie

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Looks like I lost her I do feel guilty but I means that okay I followed my heart, I didn't knew the process but I followed my heart and it indirectly sent out the message that I wanna fuck her. I shoudl stop being hard on myself and be proud of it
 

Don Giovanni

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indirectly sent out the message that I wanna fuck her

What specifically did you send? Hope not in that words…

Actually your interaction with the girl would make much more sense and would be easier to help if you posted word by word texting convo with her.
 

Wolfie

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What specifically did you send? Hope not in that words…

Actually your interaction with the girl would make much more sense and would be easier to help if you posted word by word texting convo with her.
Not not Really that of course not

She talked about the erotica novels she read and I asked her if one of the novels mentioned is a bdsm theme based

And she said somewhat and how she hasn't read the sequel to it

Me:- so you are curious about bdsm
Her :nah not really
Me :- oh okay
Me :but hey i would love to know more about you and we grab a cup of coffee. But of course I want absolute comfort for you. Let me know when your schedule is free :)


That was it.
 

Wolfie

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Guys sorry if there is a typo error 😂kinda busy today and my minds working really fast. Apologies
 

Don Giovanni

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Not not Really that of course not

She talked about the erotica novels she read and I asked her if one of the novels mentioned is a bdsm theme based

And she said somewhat and how she hasn't read the sequel to it

Me:- so you are curious about bdsm
Her :nah not really
Me :- oh okay
Me :but hey i would love to know more about you and we grab a cup of coffee. But of course I want absolute comfort for you. Let me know when your schedule is free :)


That was it.

Ah good :D

I wouldn’t ask her out after a negative response about bdsm, it’s a kind of an incoming no. You want to build a high point and then “we should grab a coffee sometime” soft close then hard close. You did it all in one text.


Also I wouldn’t write anything more then just ”we should grab a cup of coffe”, it looks like you’re overinvesting. The part “i want absolute comfort for you” feels weird like when you’re lying and you say “i’m not lying”…

Just follow the @Skills guide I linked above and everything should be fine.
 

Will_V

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Not not Really that of course not

She talked about the erotica novels she read and I asked her if one of the novels mentioned is a bdsm theme based

And she said somewhat and how she hasn't read the sequel to it

Me:- so you are curious about bdsm
Her :nah not really
Me :- oh okay
Me :but hey i would love to know more about you and we grab a cup of coffee. But of course I want absolute comfort for you. Let me know when your schedule is free :)


That was it.

Yeah you associated the asking her out with bdsm in a strange way. Personally I would have made some joke about the bdsm thing and then changed topics as if the whole thing didn't matter.

The fact that you felt compelled to add "But of course I want absolute comfort for you" is apologetic/smoothing over and should never be done in conjunction with asking for compliance (which should come from a confident, positive frame).
 

Wolfie

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That's perfect the reason I said
Ah good :D

I wouldn’t ask her out after a negative response about bdsm, it’s a kind of an incoming no. You want to build a high point and then “we should grab a coffee sometime” soft close then hard close. You did it all in one text.


Also I wouldn’t write anything more then just ”we should grab a cup of coffe”, it looks like you’re overinvesting. The part “i want absolute comfort for you” feels weird like when you’re lying and you say “i’m not lying”…

Just follow the @Skills guide I linked above and everything should be fine.
About the comfort was so that she does not feel like I am a creep trying to fuck her pussy but to be understanding..... But anyways I am starting out and it's like whatever happens happens not really expecting much but thanks for that guide ❤️
 

Wolfie

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Yeah you associated the asking her out with bdsm in a strange way. Personally I would have made some joke about the bdsm thing and then changed topics as if the whole thing didn't matter.

The fact that you felt compelled to add "But of course I want absolute comfort for you" is apologetic/smoothing over and should never be done in conjunction with asking for compliance (which should come from a confident, positive frame).
Okay not gonna lie I am going FUCKIN NUTS. keeping these things in check seems like I might have to use a textbook or something, it's becoming very technical. And no offense to you thank you for sharing your knowledge.
 

Will_V

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Okay not gonna lie I am going FUCKIN NUTS. keeping these things in check seems like I might have to use a textbook or something, it's becoming very technical. And no offense to you thank you for sharing your knowledge.
You don't need a textbook. What you need is to read your message and look at it from her point of view. If you read your own words 'But of course I want absolute comfort for you' you'd know immediately this is very nice-guy type of stuff. Guys who have lots of girls around don't care about 'absolute comfort' they toss them around and tease them a lot for fun.

This isn't a criticism of you, I've sent way worse in the past, just accept though that you already know this stuff but you are not paying attention. You already have this sense but you aren't listening to it.

Imagine for one second five hot girls you've met. Imagine if these five were all on your phone and wanted your cock. You wouldn't be sending messages to other girls trying to take care of their feelings, you'd be like 'whatever, I'll make a joke and ask her out, who cares I've already got all these others'.
 
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