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zeroman2

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Hello Beginner Here

so recently a few months ago I applied for a job in life insurance. But in order to sell life insurance I have to get a license. So they gave me studying material and places to take the test. during the time of studying they send me two or three people to check up on me to see how I'm doing. One of them was a woman that text me to see how I'm doing. I thought nothing of it. To be honest with you I thought she was going to be a middle-aged woman that's a little overweight.

cut forwarded to a a couple of weeks later I failed my exam twice. because of that she offered to help me with my studies. so we decided to video chat. when I first saw her wow she was nothing with I expect it. A sexy Latino women, supermodel type, barely older than me. ( Im 29 her being 35). Doing our first meeting there were some little light flirtation but nothing too big. At the end of the meeting she asked me if I have any kids. I said I have no kids, single, live by myself. she told me she was in the same boat as me. I knew something was there after the first meeting so I knew I had to make a move.

but I didn't make a move. mainly because despite the little flirtation. the conversation seemed so professional. I've tried a little bit to get off the job conversation but with little to no success. So each meeting was professional with a little flirtation. although during those meetings she does ask me at least one personal questions or two.

So by the third week of our meeting I kind of expected the attraction has expired or will expire soon. so I decided no matter how the conversation goes or how professional it is. I'm just going to ask her out. If nothing happens and I get rejected at least I can learn and get better for the next time. however during that meeting she suggested that after I pass we should go celebrate with drinks or lunch. I said I was going to ask you the same thing.

so it was the day of my test for the fifth time. she text me that morning good luck. I text back thank you you're so sweet (probably not the sexiest text I made I'll do better next time). After that I pass the test later on that day I texted her about it. she was so happy. I text to her we should go celebrate. she text back definitely. afterwards I texted back 10 minutes later saying we should get drinks whenever you're available this week. I have not heard from her since this text.

I'm probably going to text her again if nothing else but to persist and see if that works.

but on the off chance it doesn't my questions are this.

1. What can I done to do better?
2. What are your overall thoughts of the situation?

3. Getting girls on dates is my biggest sticking point right now. no matter how well it's going. I can never convince them to go on a date with me. how do I change that?
 

peter94

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This might be off topic but always be very very careful when there are hot women involved in some kind of short-term jobs. The reason being is that they are there to draw your attention so that you dont figure out the whole deal is a partial/full scam. Just sharing my personal experience
 

zeroman2

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Thanks for the advice but it's a long time job and trust me I know what I'm being scam. (It happened to me before but I didn't fall for it)

Also it's long conversations next time I'll give you the abbreviated version.

Update
I text her again Monday. she texted back. later that we talked on the phone about 30 minutes about the job. Than I spend the next 45 minutes deep diving. She told me she was from Salvador. moved to the us when she was 18. That she moved to my town years ago because of her ex and that her ex cheated on her. After the talk we nail down our date. I pick a location very close to my house ( just around the corner of my apartment) we are meeting Wednesday.
 

Skills

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There should be a rule not to answer text scenarios till 48 hours have expired


Whenever you are available this week to vague, I am busy this week but I have some free time Wednesday and Friday after 7. Would that work for you? Would have been better
 

cruiser

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Thanks for the advice but it's a long time job and trust me I know what I'm being scam. (It happened to me before but I didn't fall for it)

Also it's long conversations next time I'll give you the abbreviated version.

Update
I text her again Monday. she texted back. later that we talked on the phone about 30 minutes about the job. Than I spend the next 45 minutes deep diving. She told me she was from Salvador. moved to the us when she was 18. That she moved to my town years ago because of her ex and that her ex cheated on her. After the talk we nail down our date. I pick a location very close to my house ( just around the corner of my apartment) we are meeting Wednesday.
Let us know how the date goes :) hopefully she knows it’s a date and not just a friendly meet up. Me personally I avoid any previous relationship questions. Make it fun
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

zeroman2

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The Meet Up

Well we meet at a restaurant near my house. We shook hands and from the small little instant I knew this was not going to go as I plan. We sat down near a table. At first we were sitting next to each other. But soon afterwards she just decided to sit across from me instead of next to me. We talked about the business for like 30-40 minutes. afterwards she started acting personal questions about me. I just told her my hobbies, how many siblings I have, and why I decided to sell life insurance. I did some more deep diving. she wears a wedding ring on a finger although she is single. she said she does that because clients (both male and female) hit on her all the time. Even other agents hit on her. that's why she were it. she also tells me she loves cooking and that she sees cooking as an art if you know what you doing. She told enjoy being alone because it's very drama-free. I told her that's one of the reasons I enjoy being alone. but I'm never lonely because I always have a support system. she said she is glad to be a part of my support system and having me as a friend. After I heard that I knew this wasn't going anywhere. Afterwards she paid for the check. she said she can't wait to work with me. we shook hands and parted ways.

maybe I was reading into this to much and that it was just a simple meeting. although I thought it was weird Everytime we chat she keep asking me where I live.

But lesson learned.
 

Skills

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The Meet Up

Well we meet at a restaurant near my house. We shook hands and from the small little instant I knew this was not going to go as I plan. We sat down near a table. At first we were sitting next to each other. But soon afterwards she just decided to sit across from me instead of next to me. We talked about the business for like 30-40 minutes. afterwards she started acting personal questions about me. I just told her my hobbies, how many siblings I have, and why I decided to sell life insurance. I did some more deep diving. she wears a wedding ring on a finger although she is single. she said she does that because clients (both male and female) hit on her all the time. Even other agents hit on her. that's why she were it. she also tells me she loves cooking and that she sees cooking as an art if you know what you doing. She told enjoy being alone because it's very drama-free. I told her that's one of the reasons I enjoy being alone. but I'm never lonely because I always have a support system. she said she is glad to be a part of my support system and having me as a friend. After I heard that I knew this wasn't going anywhere. Afterwards she paid for the check. she said she can't wait to work with me. we shook hands and parted ways.

maybe I was reading into this to much and that it was just a simple meeting. although I thought it was weird Everytime we chat she keep asking me where I live.

But lesson learned.
Why did you talk about biz for 30-40 minutes, what kind of restaurant was that? Why you didn't move her to other places, friends?
 

zeroman2

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1. Because we are going to be working together and she's directly above me. Even though I want more things that happened at the same time. I didn't want to come off as unprofessional.

2. It was a nice fancy restaurant. (Once again I chose that place because it was close to my house)

3. To be honest I don't know where I would have moved her.

4. And yes she did say at the end her and everybody I'm going to work with going to be my new friends.
 

cruiser

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Ah bro sorry to say it but MLM hardcore. Stay away they’ll act super nice to you but it’s pyramid at the best. Some people do great idk not my niche! If your happy by all means.

She probs thought you were a client. Sorry bro ://

maybe if you tried being a little more flirty she would have gotten the hint.

text before the date

“hope you’re ready for tonight”

something. Along those lines
 

Skills

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1. Because we are going to be working together and she's directly above me. Even though I want more things that happened at the same time. I didn't want to come off as unprofessional.

Strike 1

2. It was a nice fancy restaurant. (Once again I chose that place because it was close to my house)

that may be strike 2, depending on the context, for me is a strike 2.... You want to keep the encounter low key, no pressure, casual and relax, vs formal


3. To be honest I don't know where I would have moved her.

It seems for such situation bouncing them tends to help and increase odds, i had a friend at work having same scenario with multiple women the 3 bounces help... Coffee shop close, then maybe that restaurant, maybe a park or secluded area close then your home.. Also you not taking her out of the work trance, by talking for 40 hours about biz = platonic zone... You had to take her out of that trance...

4. And yes she did say at the end her and everybody I'm going to work with going to be my new friends.


Fatality! friend zone, you did not make a move, you kept it platonic, no sexual tension, no seduction topics, nada! you were talking about work, you should have said, after 5 minutes i don't want to talk about work, i want to get to know you or something like that, then go into seduction type topics, bounce her, seduce her......
 

POB

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1. Because we are going to be working together and she's directly above me. Even though I want more things that happened at the same time. I didn't want to come off as unprofessional.

Mmmmm...so she's your superior. And you made a weak move on her.
I say you are lucky.

Let's pause for a second and do the math...let's assume you were able to successfully seduce and have sex with her. Then after a while she wants some kind of relationship, and you don't. For whatever reason, you guys split. Then she sees you everyday and is able to boss you around. Do you really think things are going to stay 100% professional in that scenario???
 

Fuck This

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I say let her wing you....Introduce you to a higher level social circle. Give you access to other attractive women.

I find work supervisors love to act as mentors. Even if only to show how cool they are to their Direct reports.

If you want to find attractive women hang out with attractive women.
 

DoWhatWorks

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@zeroman2 Kudos for taking action, I think you playing it safe was simply the difficulty of the situation playing on your mind.

The saying don't shit where you eat is there for a reason ;)

Lesson learnt - keep going and meet new girls man!
 

trashKENNUT

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1. Because we are going to be working together and she's directly above me. Even though I want more things that happened at the same time. I didn't want to come off as unprofessional.

Women can't discern professionalism and personal. (it's more nuance)
I'm pretty sure that a generation of mothers only, results in all this society problems we see around us,
because guys can't discern too now.
:XXX

z@c+
 

Yaxir

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trust me I know what I'm being scam. (It happened to me before but I didn't fall for it)

can you tell, without disclosing personal information, what happened ? i would just like to know how to avoid scams
 
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