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Top 12 Dating /Sex Relationship Books for Men/Beginner Daygamers

isildur1

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Decided to draw up a list of my 12 favourite seduction books - this is a list of the books that were most helpful to me during my seduction journey of doing daygame in London . I have 0 financial ties of affiliations with any of these authors. Some of them are dead or retired and I've never met the authors of any of these books (bar Tom Torero once at a meetup) nor have I got any commissions or affiliate links to said books. This list is not in order of importance or in order of my personal favourites - the order of importance will vary depending on which stage of seduction said person is at. For example if you're an absolute beginner The Rational Male, Models and the Psychology of Romantic love maybe the best books. If you're an intermediate perhaps something on the lines of A Natural History by James Marshall might be most appropriate. They also help with different sticking points for example if your dress sense is garbage then say Tanner Guzy's The Appearance of Power would be optimal in that regard.
 

isildur1

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Your day game results will vastly improve if you stop listening to those idiotic London day game guys.
thanks i appreciate the thought from a random individual online

my results are fine - i met my girlfriend from doing daygame and iam very happy with her
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

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Some rather bizarre (and harsh) responses to this post.

Thanks @isildur1 for typing this up. The only one I've read is Models, and of course that's a very sensible guide with lots of a good tips in there.

I actually have a copy of the rational male which I never bothered reading, I'll dig it out.

I've just started taking day game semi-seriously, and having some really good results without really studying anything. I'm just going up to girls and delivering a direct opener. 1 out of 3 times I'm getting a phone number (about 40 approaches over the past month). The next step for me is converting these numbers into a higher percentage of dates ... so far I'm on 2 lays from 4 dates, hoping to increase that soon.
 

isildur1

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Some rather bizarre (and harsh) responses to this post.

Thanks @isildur1 for typing this up. The only one I've read is Models, and of course that's a very sensible guide with lots of a good tips in there.

I actually have a copy of the rational male which I never bothered reading, I'll dig it out.

I've just started taking day game semi-seriously, and having some really good results without really studying anything. I'm just going up to girls and delivering a direct opener. 1 out of 3 times I'm getting a phone number (about 40 approaches over the past month). The next step for me is converting these numbers into a higher percentage of dates ... so far I'm on 2 lays from 4 dates, hoping to increase that soon.
Rational Male is sort of decent for those figuring out the relationship game especially for those who live in competitive cities - granted most my friends who did daygame didn't enjoy The Rational Male as there were far too many broad generalisations in it and that maybe were too pessimistic.
actually was spending this morning listening to Rollo's interview with Krauser:

In general though the same points from Tommasi's books echo in Krauser and Torero's though the later two focus on opening and running dates and the trails and tribulations of specific situations.

I like Liam Mcrae and James Mashall's books as they offer a different perspective to Krauser and Torero's- probably delivered in a more balanced and nuanced fashion

2 lays out of 4 dates is an excellent ratio - far better than me when i started out.
 
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