LR Tramp Stamp

[Swati]

The first 2 sets were 2 blondes, my wing and I open at the same time, but I go for the one closest to me.

Before the outing, I told him that when we are doing a duo set, we should close off the circle and close up our proximity with each other because he has a tendency to be very loose giving too much space. Autistic with his 1 on 1 approach and etc.

While I had a decent hook with them and got some physical contact face touching each other and small moves etc, my wing had a negative compliance loop building up, touching at the wrong times, demanding a high request moving too much with not enough comfort or social value/ frame and blew out the compliance with them, I was a bit annoyed by it and I just got the contact info and left.

2 approach duo set, it was an Italian and Japanese/Italian

I saw the Italian/Japanese looking at me, but thank god I saw my wing coming towards me to deal with the 2, so I merged him into my approach, making it equal. The tall Italian is what I find more exotic, she was taller than me and my wing likes the Asian mix more, so it was the perfect combo.

I pushed it forward after knowing that my wing got a decent hook. Initially, I seeded for going back to my flat to get a shot but that's too much of a compliance test in the beginning I changed the topics.

**Drink buying**
I usually don't do this since I never really needed to, I feel like it's supplementing you as a person. My wing LOVE to use this drinking-buying tactic at the wrong time. Which resulted in him being the "drink buyer", losing the hook later on.

We locked in as a group, it was the perfect setting, my wing and she spoke Spanish so it was great, I had my locked in touching her, etc, I kino on her lower back, where the tramp stamp was, it was perfect, so sexy.

This toxic girl knew exactly how to talk to the guy, she was validating the shit out of me,

"oh my god you are so hot"
"you are so sexy I want to fuck you"
blah blah

Of course, it still worked on me but just not that much anymore.

180+, tramp stamp, so many tattoos at the age of 19, she was super toxic I could tell, 95% she was in a lesbo relationship because I see her relationship on her wallpaper on her phone and also my friend told his girl told him that "she" was "taken".

So about the 3rd time buying the shots for us, we paid, AGAIN. When we were inside the club my girl was horny, we finally detached from my wing, my girl wanted to be alone with me and we went to the bathroom for fucky fucky.

There were 2 bathrooms 1 upstairs and one downstairs, took her to the upstairs one, making sure there weren't too many people, and chose the girl bathroom with a toilet.

"It's more spicy inside of the bathroom"

!!!! She STILL wouldn't kiss me !!!! She was grabbing my dick and I was fingering her I put my tip inside a bit, and she asked for a condom then I pull it out and put it on. I turned her around see that tattoo started fucking her with my flaccid dick, felt so weird. The whole time I had about 60% erection at best because of the alcohol etc, eventually she became dry and I was tired from fingering her.

(I love to do this shit back 1-2 years ago, I'm getting a bit old, I couldn't get completely hard in a small ass place)

She wouldn't suck my dick, wouldn't kiss me, she was using her hand, and I start fingering at first and

We came out of the bathroom, I was super sweaty, and she left like 7 hickey marks on my face, it didn't look great, my wing called and messaged a bunch of times.

Epilogue, so the girl and I went outside of the club and we saw my wing and her friend, we walked back to our flat, and during their girl talks, they were inside for like 10 minutes in our bathroom. They come outside saying she wanted to leave or bullshit I don't remember. My wing took his girl immediately after them coming outside and they went to the room and then the bathroom thinking they ended up fucking but she was drunk and throwing up.

While they were in the bathroom I ended up fingering her again and putting my flaccid dick 2-3 inches inside again before she became dry and a total bitch. I'm guessing from the friend's situation, cheating, they had 7 am plans in the morning. My wing and I carried the drunk to the taxi, we paid like 100 dollars for this pull, driver kept canceling on us so I just had to bride them with 3x of the money for a short drive.

After leaving getting back to our place I checked my profile she blocked me.

Toxic cheating weird girl, but she was fun.

Anyway, I closed 2x this week, this is 2nd approach of the night, so this one helped my momentum infield no doubt, find myself being able to do a lot better hooking. I experienced using my seduction skills to fucking enough BUT infield momentum is still not as high as before, so let's see if I'd be able to pull off weird shit for the rest of the year.

Sexual vs social momentum, thanks OGs for the momentum articles

 

[Teevster]

Before the outing, I told him that when we are doing a duo set, we should close off the circle and close up our proximity with each other because he has a tendency to be very loose giving too much space. Autistic with his 1 on 1 approach and etc.

Good! Giving instructions is key. Good wing communication.

While I had a decent hook with them and got some physical contact face touching each other and small moves etc, my wing had a negative compliance loop building up, touching at the wrong times, demanding a high request moving too much with not enough comfort or social value/ frame and blew out the compliance with them, I was a bit annoyed by it and I just got the contact info and left.

This is the moment you switch targets to cut the negative compliance loop. You can always switch back again later. That's how you save him. Or, you can create a plenum interaction - where you all talk in a big group. Basically you de-escalaye the whole thing.

I pushed it forward after knowing that my wing got a decent hook. Initially, I seeded for going back to my flat to get a shot but that's too much of a compliance test in the beginning I changed the topics.

Good.

This toxic girl knew exactly how to talk to the guy, she was validating the shit out of me,

"oh my god you are so hot"
"you are so sexy I want to fuck you"
blah blah

Of course, it still worked on me but just not that much anymore

Beware the freaks - it is often a test to see if you bite like all other sucks. Use this a way to frame control "you are so sexy, I would like you for my breakfast, like cornflakes, best with milk on it" (lol I love that line - some hidden sexual innuendos in there).

!!!! She STILL wouldn't kiss me !!!! She was grabbing my dick and I was fingering her I put my tip inside a bit, and she asked for a condom then I pull it out and put it on. I turned her around see that tattoo started fucking her with my flaccid dick, felt so weird. The whole time I had about 60% erection at best because of the alcohol etc, eventually she became dry and I was tired from fingering her

I never had a full-fledged boner in those settings.

The no-kissing is a thing I have experienced too. Don't ask questions. Some girl associate different levels of intimacy to different ats. To her, sucking and kissing is considered too intimate for such trashy hook-up.

Now, this pull seems all fun and nice. In general, I would advice more caution in the future. Usually those pulls happen as a result of a spike in buyers temperature. Like a "high" of horniness. This "high" can fade, and when it does, regret can happen.

My advice is this:
- Create some serious rapport prior to the bathroom pull. However, this may kill the vibe - but you can maintain sexual tension by using push and pull escalation and sex talk.
- If the pull has to happen, and happens fast, then make sure she goes into the bathroom first and make her lock the door. This is to ensure full consent.
- And after the sex, massive focus on rapport.

It is tempting to get carried away by these moments. If have at numerous occasions, but my experience has taught me those are risky pulls. Imagine if she was not just a cheater on holiday, but a borderliner... you'd get in trouble.

My word of advice.

Best,
Teev

 

[Swati]

Good! Giving instructions is key. Good wing communication.



This is the moment you switch targets to cut the negative compliance loop. You can always switch back again later. That's how you save him. Or, you can create a plenum interaction - where you all talk in a big group. Basically you de-escalaye the whole thing.



Good.


Beware the freaks - it is often a test to see if you bite like all other sucks. Use this a way to frame control "you are so sexy, I would like you for my breakfast, like cornflakes, best with milk on it" (lol I love that line - some hidden sexual innuendos in there).



I never had a full-fledged boner in those settings.

The no-kissing is a thing I have experienced too. Don't ask questions. Some girl associate different levels of intimacy to different ats. To her, sucking and kissing is considered too intimate for such trashy hook-up.

Now, this pull seems all fun and nice. In general, I would advice more caution in the future. Usually those pulls happen as a result of a spike in buyers temperature. Like a "high" of horniness. This "high" can fade, and when it does, regret can happen.

My advice is this:
- Create some serious rapport prior to the bathroom pull. However, this may kill the vibe - but you can maintain sexual tension by using push and pull escalation and sex talk.
- If the pull has to happen, and happens fast, then make sure she goes into the bathroom first and make her lock the door. This is to ensure full consent.
- And after the sex, massive focus on rapport.

It is tempting to get carried away by these moments. If have at numerous occasions, but my experience has taught me those are risky pulls. Imagine if she was not just a cheater on holiday, but a borderliner... you'd get in trouble.

My word of advice.

Best,
Teev

with 2 blonde my wing wasn't calibrated enough for that kind social frame, my wingmanship wasn't at it's peak either. annoying...

I was thinking mostly of cheating factor. Yeah man you got most of the other variables down too. this girl 80% was a borderliner too, my favorites, LOL JK....

I wanted to pull back to my place but she said the bathroom, it's spicy blah blah, which is "fun" too, I'm thinking sure, it's fun let's do it.

The dryness maybe a factor of her being a lesbo, or being BI, not able to decide if she should be doing it, questioning her sexuality, I'm think?

Meta frame for the bathroom too, her going in first, should have applied it. I'll never forget those lessons of yours about it.

thanks OG

 

[Teevster]

I wanted to pull back to my place but she said the bathroom, it's spicy blah blah, which is "fun" too, I'm thinking sure, it's fun let's do it.

It is due to this exact sequence that I am not worried for you. But if this one was absent, I the situation would have changed drastically in my eyes.

The dryness maybe a factor of her being a lesbo, or being BI, not able to decide if she should be doing it, questioning her sexuality, I'm think?

I suspect being under the influence, or being borderliner - horny now, hate you the next minute.

By more cautious next time. Not saying you are at risk. The odds of things going south are low and I know you are not an idiot. However, the more you do this, the more the odds of bumping into something unstabble stack up in your disfavor.

Best,
Teev