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Transition from nice guy to sexy and edgy

LoverOfWomen

Space Monkey
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I'm finding difficult the transition from being a quiet guy to the one who is confident around girls and whom they want.

My mindset: i genuinely believe that I'm a guy who deserve girls and whom they would enjoy to be with. The only problem is when I try to appear confident it feels unnatural and forced. Chase mentioned that this is a phase you have to go through. You have to be comfortable feeling uncomfortable.

Any tips or experiences similar to this would be great.
 

Bboy100

Cro-Magnon Man
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Being unconfident and being a "nice guy" are two totally different things. Nice guys have weak boundaries, and engage in manipulative behavior to get what they want (i.e. appearing to be nice, sweet etc. with the implicit expectation that they will get something in return). Whereas lack of confidence is simply a lack of trust in one's self to accomplish the task at hand.

Based on your description, you lack confidence, you're not necessarily a "nice guy" (although you could be both). Building confidence is not a matter of trying to appear confident when you're not. That doesn't work. Rather, its about building up positive reference points. Do that enough, and confidence will naturally rise. What Chase means when he says you need to do things you're uncomfortable with is that you need to try new strategies. Some of them won't necessarily feel right or comfortable. This I NOT the same as trying to fake the appearance of confidence. Don't do that.

So to formulate it more clearly...building confidence is simply a matter of going out, doing something related to the task you want to be confident at and recognizing the fact that you were successful. Rinse and repeat.

In the context of picking up women, this might be something as simple as going out and saying "hi" to a women then walking away. Or, if you already know girls, going out and having a great conversation with one of them. Its important to note that you must recognize these small victories as successes in your mind. A lot of guys go out thinking "Oh..well I didn't get laid so I failed.". This is far from true. Especially for beginners. Anytime you did something you previously wouldn't have or couldn't have done, understand that this is a success, and you must recognize it as such.

My mindset: i genuinely believe that I'm a guy who deserve girls and whom they would enjoy to be with.
This is fine, I'm not telling you not to do this. But understand that you can't think your way into confidence more than you can think your way into feeling satiated when you're hungry. The only way to truly feel confident is to go out and get reference points. Just remember that.
 
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Space Monkey
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Confidence is a by product of success. Become successful and you'll be confident ;)
 

headsup38

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How I built confidence with women was by putting myself in a situation where I had to interact with them(i.e. working together at a job). I mostly started with whoever was near--not necessarily the prettiest girl in the room. As I got older and got more situational experience it became easier. I was pretty awkward and quiet when I was young. Looking back I realized my problems was due to not having any experience in life or travel. For example, I'll meet people on the job who have come from different states/cities. If they say they are from New York, I'll tell them I've been there and name the areas I've been to and in response they'll usually recognize it. Having odd experiences with other people on the job or in life I can share with someone I meet if the situation arises. This makes you look interesting and they will engage with you more.

There was an episode on the kid's show Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide on Nickelodeon some years' ago dealing with how to meet girls. Ned Bigby said "To meet girls: join a group where they will more likely to be i.e. home-economics, yearbook or choir--sure there won't be many guys there--but isn't that the point?" This applies no matter how old you are.
 

LoverOfWomen

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So the way to get more confident with girls is through experience (engaging in conversation with girls).

I do feel like I've improved with regard to my overall confidence, I can have good conversations with guys whom i hardly know.
The issue is only when it comes to girls whom I find attractive.
I seem to freeze while everyone else is having a good time. The more I expose myself to being around attractive females the more confident i should become.
As you guys mentioned I will get out there, meet more girls and it may take a while but it will definitely be worth it :)
 
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