Transitioning after the open - hooking

[flatron]

I'm saying some girls fall into the 'no' category (in that nothing you say or do will get them naked as they simply aren't, and never will be, into you in 'that' way) who are just social, talkative, friendly, receptive girls who will ask you things and let you 'hook' etc.
But anyway, honestly not worth arguing over. It's not as if we'll be able to change each others minds!

 

[Skills]

I'm saying some girls fall into the 'no' category (in that nothing you say or do will get them naked as they simply aren't, and never will be, into you in 'that' way) who are just social, talkative, friendly, receptive girls who will ask you things and let you 'hook' etc.
But anyway, honestly not worth arguing over. It's not as if we'll be able to change each others minds!

both of you are talking different things velasco is talking about a girl that is a maybe that went not interested cause she lost interest cause the dude ran out of things to say or was lame and she went cold....


You are talking about red, no girls....

 

[Toby2030]

Fundamentals are key for hooking consistently high percentages, however:
1. Pre-opening
2. Open - push/pull, observational or situational tease. The goal of opening: Just getting the convo started.
3. Every single chase technique is about creating voids. I use open loops, forced qualification and push-pull a lot here but in a very playful way, and focus on setting a sexual frame. I try to get sexual tension from the start.
4. Locking-in
5. If necessary logistical escalation/isolation

 

[BigPapa]

I agree with you @Velasco , but depends on your final objective at the end of the day . For me personally , the final objective is to find love

I guess it sounds corny , but hey I have Latin blood , and the crazy thing is that all of the girls that I interact with I feel that I love them . Some less , some more. Sometimes I love the way they look at me , or how they walk , or even how her nose wrinkles a little bit when she sees something that she does not like. Maybe the kind of love I am looking for does not exist , and I am just fighting with the wind mills like don Quixote .

I tried for a while running routines ,but then I realized that for me it just feels too technical and have almost no emotions . If you know what to expect , the thrill goes away , and the sex is not that passionate from my end at least .

I agree with you though , that if you have a more scientific approach the conversion rate will increase a little bit , but you also have to make peace with yourself that the whole interaction is more mechanical and emotionless .

i guess it depends on each person and the objectives he has , but usually people that go mechanical ( as Is an ego led seduction ) also have Higher tendencies of actually hurting the girl , which for me is a big no no

 

[Velasco]

I guess it sounds corny , but hey I have Latin blood , and the crazy thing is that all of the girls that I interact with I feel that I love them . Some less , some more. Sometimes I love the way they look at me , or how they walk , or even how her nose wrinkles a little bit when she sees something that she does not like. Maybe the kind of love I am looking for does not exist , and I am just fighting with the wind mills like don Quixote .

yeah I'm not thinking about any of this when I go out lol. My thinking is: I'm horny and I want to fill a new girl's hole with my semen. And if you haven't figured it out from my username, I am also latino

I tried for a while running routines ,but then I realized that for me it just feels too technical and have almost no emotions . If you know what to expect , the thrill goes away , and the sex is not that passionate from my end at least .

Perhaps the way you ran routines is different from the way I do it. For me, I am always getting some interesting information from them. Whether its emotional ("why did you breakup with your boyfriend?" "what's been your favorite memory?" [with regards to the places she's told me she visited] questions I ask as part of my routines) or sexual ("is there a type of guy who you would never go for" "what's your favorite sex position and why") that not only gives me an opportunity to learn something new and refreshing that I can discuss with her, also turns me on in the process.

And from my end, there is no correlation with the sex not being passionate from using routines Vs a more natural approach. With the sexual frames set, she knows the kind of guy I am, and feel allowed to let herself go with me, when we go back home to rip each others clothes off.

 

[BigPapa]

i Guess you function different than me haha , but is good to have a broad spectrum of guys here , as you see things from a lot of different perspectives which is gold

 

[Chrance]

Let's differentiate "Receptive" from "talking back."

A girl answering your questions with one word answers while looking around the room is a NO.

A girl answering your questions and then asking you questions in return. But then excuses herself once the conversation hits a lull, because you've ran outta things to say or because conversation's going no where, or rejects your attempt at physically escalating because she isn't ready yet, does not make her a NO.

I ran into this several times this past weekend. Each time it becomes more identifiable. I just straight up ran out of shit to say, then lost the set.