Unconventional tips for suceeding in game and life for guys with ADHD

[empath]

Well Autism is covered here extensively for game and they are usually sucessful in career and other prospects, if something similar you guys have for ADHD as well

I have adhd and I have average sucess in life but I don't want an average life.

So pointers from guys here who either have ADHD or have been around sucessful Guys with ADHD.

Need tips for 3 things

1) Game
2) Building wealth
3) Building skills above average level (I can learn new things quickly but when requiring focus to build skills on a level beyond beginner I struggle with it or focusing to figure out rules, if there is a teacher/coach or someone explains you are missing this piece I will get it but its a struggle to figure out things on my own)

Especially something that doesnt involves medication.

 

[Chase]

I always just assumed ADHD was a pickup super power.

Guy is hot then cold without even trying to be.

Sometimes texts her back fast because he's right near his phone, sometimes doesn't text her back for ages because he's too caught up in something else.

Zero tolerance for women trying to pull bullshit because ADHD temperament acts up and dude just goes, "Screw this!"

Constantly pulling girls along onto adventures, in the lead, getting them invested, acting spontaneous.

No hesitancy about making moves. Wants to do it → does it.

Seems like it'd just give you insta-alpha powers plus infinite mixed signals to send girls.

You'll probably never be able to run highly structured game, but spend enough time in-field and you should be a natural.

 

[empath]

I always just assumed ADHD was a pickup super power.

Guy is hot then cold without even trying to be.

Sometimes texts her back fast because he's right near his phone, sometimes doesn't text her back for ages because he's too caught up in something else.

Zero tolerance for women trying to pull bullshit because ADHD temperament acts up and dude just goes, "Screw this!"

Constantly pulling girls along onto adventures, in the lead, getting them invested, acting spontaneous.

No hesitancy about making moves. Wants to do it → does it.

Seems like it'd just give you insta-alpha powers plus infinite mixed signals to send girls.

You'll probably never be able to run highly structured game, but spend enough time in-field and you should be a natural.

I know internet makes it seem having ADHD as some superpower but its not.

I think in essence you are just saying to own my ADHD and wear it like an armour.

But issue is

Well I agree with making move without second thought, but downside is they are mostly sub-optimal because of lack of thought or attention, sometime they work wonder. (So hit or miss)

Totally agree with adventure part, if I leave the agenda of sex, I can run very fun dates

Hot & Cold I agree, naturally leads to deep diving but I am all hot until I have laid the girl.

So, it does not help me while picking up, rather it hurts, cause I end up being obsessive and worst part is I can't control my impulses easily (in relationship yes).

Even though I will think that best is to ignore girl for 3-4 days but I can't.

Screw this comes in relationship not while picking up.

Also, I need harsh negative rewards/punishment both in intensity and frequency to change my behaviour because my brain forgets that my actions can lead bad outcomes

 

[Chase]

Hot & Cold I agree, naturally leads to deep diving but I am all hot until I have laid the girl.

So, it does not help me while picking up, rather it hurts, cause I end up being obsessive and worst part is I can't control my impulses easily (in relationship yes).

This sounds like an abundance issue more than anything.

Every guy is obsessive with girls pre-lay until he has enough girls he is trying to lay that he doesn't have the bandwidth to get obsessive about any one of them.

Fill your pipeline up more and this'll be less of an issue.

Even though I will think that best is to ignore girl for 3-4 days but I can't.

Again, ADHD will make this worse, but this is an "every guy" thing that stems from lack of abundance.

Chase

 

[empath]

This sounds like an abundance issue more than anything.

Every guy is obsessive with girls pre-lay until he has enough girls he is trying to lay that he doesn't have the bandwidth to get obsessive about any one of them.

Fill your pipeline up more and this'll be less of an issue.



Again, ADHD will make this worse, but this is an "every guy" thing that stems from lack of abundance.

Chase

The issue of abundance idk still not there but this is how I solved this.

I got needy few times and lost conversation of girls.

So now I have mostly chilled out on girls not replying. I just assume they might be busy or going through something in life.

Also, waiting for their reply don't help me.

Lastly, started focusing on stuff other than the girl

For ex. Maybe write a poem or read an article etc. so being busy for real.

 

[empath]

I always just assumed ADHD was a pickup super power.

Guy is hot then cold without even trying to be.

Sometimes texts her back fast because he's right near his phone, sometimes doesn't text her back for ages because he's too caught up in something else.

Zero tolerance for women trying to pull bullshit because ADHD temperament acts up and dude just goes, "Screw this!"

Constantly pulling girls along onto adventures, in the lead, getting them invested, acting spontaneous.

No hesitancy about making moves. Wants to do it → does it.

Seems like it'd just give you insta-alpha powers plus infinite mixed signals to send girls.

You'll probably never be able to run highly structured game, but spend enough time in-field and you should be a natural.

How does someone with ADHD achieve mastery and consistency?

I am able to lay girls.

Sometimes I read different style get curious dig deep into, try for next 2-3 times get results and then can't do it again.

Have seen ADHD naturals, who were quite good at it?

How does progression looked for them

Any idea from your observation what works for them what don't?

How they learn faster?

Basically I want to ramp up consistancy in my game.

my lays have been all over places - from building deep connection, to just staying there and leading things. To just taking hand of the girl and lead to my apartment, saying we will have an adventure (screened for dtfness in these)

But I always feel I lucked out, not have confidence like guys with a process. Or basically get this confidence.

 

[Teevster]

Sometimes I read different style get curious dig deep into, try for next 2-3 times get results and then can't do it again.

That is actually a real technique - called thread-slicing. You are probably young. You will likely calm down and be more grounded in a few years. For now, focus on a game style that fits your high energy "all over the place" vibe. Humour, mixed signals (ADHD/ADD is litterally showing mixed signal... attention - no attention - attention...) and stuff like that.

Ritallin kills your vibe. So does any other ADHD meds, and they do not mix well with alcohol (ADHD younglings should do nightgame). So if you want to calm down your ADHD without meds, L-theanine is the only legit supplement - L-Tyrosine and DLPA can also help. Talk to your healthcare provider first (they can interact with certain meds - that is, if you are on meds).

You need to focus on transitions - because with your style you will often force you into re-transitioning into key subjects, as a result of you unwillingly out-fractionating out of a key subject, technique, vibe etc (which you do naturally).

ADHD is not a problem for game - nor has it ever been for anyone with the "condition". I have it myself - although with the years the symptoms have gone drastically down.

You may take ADHD into consideration when calibrating a game plan that suits you, but you should not make ADHD a problem in and out of itself that needs solving (game-wise), but rather consider it a variable that you must take into consideration when structuring a game plan. Sure, the condition fucks up your decision-making in field, but at the same time, as @Chase pointed out, it also offers a lot of other benefits.

First step for you is to change mindset. You are attacking this from the wrong angle. You are at this point in time using ADHD as an excuse for why you are hampered. The moment you figure out that, well things are the way they are, but not just that, you actually have a lot working for you as well, that's when you can make steps forward.

Whenever you figure out that ADHD comes with both pros and cons (the problems you list are real problems, I admit), and make a game plan based on that, then that's when we can start getting down to business. For now you are not, based on your message, even envisioning how to use ADHD as something potentially beneficial (you are framinh it as a handicap - it is not). ADHD and good pick up skills correlate. I'd say people with it tend do better than the norm.

You don't need unconventional tips, you just need the conventional kick in in the butt "type of advice".

-Teevster

 

[Teevster]

Oh yeah, and the lame-ass advice your therapist gives you to eat healthy, force yourself to have structure, and all that is legit. They apply to pick up as well. Just want to point that out. I forced myself into structured game early on for this reason. Structured game has been criticized for creating autistic social robots - but that's bypassed with ADHD (unless one suffers from autism too).

Do you even have a clear game-plan?

PS: sorry (but not sorry) for not saying the things you want to hear.

-Teevster

 

[empath]

That is actually a real technique - called thread-slicing. You are probably young. You will likely calm down and be more grounded in a few years. For now, focus on a game style that fits your high energy "all over the place" vibe. Humour, mixed signals (ADHD/ADD is litterally showing mixed signal... attention - no attention - attention...) and stuff like that.

Ritallin kills your vibe. So does any other ADHD meds, and they do not mix well with alcohol (ADHD younglings should do nightgame). So if you want to calm down your ADHD without meds, L-theanine is the only legit supplement - L-Tyrosine and DLPA can also help. Talk to your healthcare provider first (they can interact with certain meds - that is, if you are on meds).

You need to focus on transitions - because with your style you will often force you into re-transitioning into key subjects, as a result of you unwillingly out-fractionating out of a key subject, technique, vibe etc (which you do naturally).

ADHD is not a problem for game - nor has it ever been for anyone with the "condition". I have it myself - although with the years the symptoms have gone drastically down.

You may take ADHD into consideration when calibrating a game plan that suits you, but you should not make ADHD a problem in and out of itself that needs solving (game-wise), but rather consider it a variable that you must take into consideration when structuring a game plan. Sure, the condition fucks up your decision-making in field, but at the same time, as @Chase pointed out, it also offers a lot of other benefits.

First step for you is to change mindset. You are attacking this from the wrong angle. You are at this point in time using ADHD as an excuse for why you are hampered. The moment you figure out that, well things are the way they are, but not just that, you actually have a lot working for you as well, that's when you can make steps forward.

Whenever you figure out that ADHD comes with both pros and cons (the problems you list are real problems, I admit), and make a game plan based on that, then that's when we can start getting down to business. For now you are not, based on your message, even envisioning how to use ADHD as something potentially beneficial (you are framinh it as a handicap - it is not). ADHD and good pick up skills correlate. I'd say people with it tend do better than the norm.

You don't need unconventional tips, you just need the conventional kick in in the butt "type of advice".

-Teevster

Mix signals I am using.

Being non-needy leads to it but mostly over text.

But I usually end up becoming hyper focused in person and maybe deep dive too much too soon.

I never thought about transition conciously, I try to get physical asap, whatever touch and closeness I can get going and keep it.

Push-pull and teasing is another thing come naturally to me when feeling momentum.

Also, baiting and making her curious until she begs me to give information which I wanted to share.

Like I have this end goal in mind to isolate her asap. (So mostly I try to get her to my home, I write sometime so I either say we will read poems, or I have nice roof so, use chilling at roof as excuse and smoking up or alcohol as excuse)


But yeah basically I have read a lot of articles and whatever thing kicks in my at that moment I use it.

Or whatever experimental idea I get.

So its hit or miss.

Yeah I will not lie, maybe I am too ambitious and not getting kind of results I want maybe I am trying to shift blame to ADHD, subconciously to make myself better.

I am curious what was your basic game plan when your ADHD was at peak.

Oh yeah, and the lame-ass advice your therapist gives you to eat healthy, force yourself to have structure, and all that are legit. They apply to pick up as well. Just want to point that out. I forced myself into structured game early on for this reason. Structured game has been criticized for creating autistic social robots - but that's bypassed with ADHD.

I see so you are basically, saying use structured game because, my ADHD is naturally outweighing the social robot problem.

If you were to pick structure without, where will you start.

For me learning game first influence was chase, and his framework of deep dive and every article which came around 2014-2017. Also, all the theoritical articles about secret society etc. mostly wrriten by you. Until it was drilled in my mind girls like sex.

But I actually started doing game in 2022. At that time I was just approaching girls mostly neo-direct/direct. Now its online.

Lastly I picked and tried sex gambits from this november, few worked very well for me, self control is sexy and difference between girls and boys and prefacing I will say something explicit.

but yeah I dont have a game plan right now.

And trying random stuff is giving me results but not confidence on my skills.

Lasty one more problem I have is with groups. Especially new groups.

Idk when to focus on which person so I am zoned out mostly. So people end up thinking I am very introvert.

Tldr/key question

1. Where will you start to pick a basic structured game/routine

2. What was your gameplan when your ADHD was at peak.