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are there any of you that are currently getting laid consistently from dance floor game?

what is your strategy?

What exactly do you do as soon as you step foot on the dance floor?

Do you dance alone and wait for girls to give you approach invitations or do you get on the floor and start approaching?

What is the best time of the night to run dance floor game?

My understanding is that earlier in the night girls are too self conscious so its best to run dance floor game
after midnight (assuming club closes at 2 AM); is this correct?

I remember reading somewhere that sleazy used to just stand on the dancefloor and not even dance at all; do any of you run a strategy that involves anything like this?

What about peacocking and fashion on the dancefloor?

Do any of you use any clothing items or specific style to stand out as much as possible on the dancefloor given how crowded it is?

Also, what is the importance of positioning when it comes to dancefloor game?

Does it matter where on the dancefloor you position yourself?
 

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Before I start, let me say I suck at dance floor game. That's why I'm here, to get in on this thread.

BUT, from what I know about clubs and watching guys who do well on the dance floors here are some things that I think matter. Please you dance floor veterans chime in on this and correct me.

Girls are at the club with different motives than men. Men are definitely trying to take someone home. And while some girls will be wanting the same, they also are there because they want to be seen. So being a guy they want to be seen dancing with is a big plus. Don't forget they are often with their friends and want to look good in front of them too. That means looking good and standing out in a good way.

Here's the typical guy that I see tearing up the dance floor with hotties. He's dressed very well in a way that stands out. Not only do the clothes fit well (often he's in great shape), but his hair and facial hair are well styled and well groomed. Often some part of his outfit stands out, like he's wearing suspenders or a vest. But it always looks great on him and he comes off as SEXY wearing it. These guys put effort into their body and outfits, and it pays on the dance floor.
 

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I will let him know about this thread.
 

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are there any of you that are currently getting laid consistently from dance floor game?

I do, but you need to be well rounded, and learn and practice all types of game instead of using dance floor as a crutch.... Keep also in mind that there are a lot cultural differences... For example in Miami, NY, California that have a big latin population, dance floor game easier than utah full of a pure white demographic..... Though i do get laid consistently from dfg is not ass bang for the buck as a regular run night game that does not include df now a days. (the new generation z is just a weird generation)

what is your strategy?

It changes depend on the situation and time of the night.... but basically i dance with the sub of fun+sexual attention (vs dancing monkey)>open kind of indirectly (happen to be there)>make her drop the bitch shield>get compliance>sexually escalate (though now a days believe it or not is less physical) and then isolate>pull........ Keep in mind teevester does it different he does verbal first and then dance floor second.... It just what your preference is....

What exactly do you do as soon as you step foot on the dance floor?

this made me lol, dance...

Do you dance alone and wait for girls to give you approach invitations or do you get on the floor and start approaching?

Both, depending on the time of the night...Also you can force approach invites...

What is the best time of the night to run dance floor game?

There is not really a time, you mean to pick up, 2-2.5 hours post club opening, since women have become acclimated to the environment, and are a bit warmed and relaxed.... Imagine a hot girl that just got to the club after 2 hours getting ready do you think she comes in and a super hot guys with tight game hits on her she would want to leave (unlikely), she wants to experience the night and experience different guys, hang out with friends take pics and etc...

My understanding is that earlier in the night girls are too self conscious so its best to run dance floor game
after midnight (assuming club closes at 2 AM); is this correct?

yes, i answer that above....(is not a hard rule but just understand the dynamics).... Let me give you an example and i always have girls hit me up every weekend to meet at the club, and i flake on them cause i want to experience the night and new girls, and have some adventures... women are the same way, the reason i am like this is cause the more you are in seduction the more you become and act like a hot girl...

I remember reading somewhere that sleazy used to just stand on the dancefloor and not even dance at all; do any of you run a strategy that involves anything like this?

There was a good looking dude (claiming to be gl) in nextasf that said he just stand there in different and women come up to him..... I personally seen and experience things like this but is hit and miss and usually are not the women of your choice.... If you just stand in the dance floor scanning the room your value goes down, and you become used furniture... Sleazy has not been gaming for almost 5 years, and he is not the same guy, he is a disgrace now a days...Another red pillier roosh v junior wanna be. Forget about sleazy he is not the same dude your are better off ignoring him and his blog, his blog is unreadable now a days, pure excrement...Even the dudes that were close to him have drifted apart from him, he is too far gone the deep end.... (i suspect his divorce fucked him up)

What about peacocking and fashion on the dancefloor?


Do any of you use any clothing items or specific style to stand out as much as possible on the dancefloor given how crowded it is?

hat still number 1, and i don't wear hats (but my wing does), women have an excuse to take it off as the way to talk to you...

vAlso, what is the importance of positioning when it comes to dancefloor game?

Does it matter where on the dancefloor you position yourself?

i don't understand this question... Can you elaborate?

p.s. i love your name, but believe or not most good seducers are validation whores...

p.s .2 guys no more "guru" label please, i am just a normal dude passionate about this stuff...
 
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Space's nightlife and newbie questions

Not that I'm a night game expert, more like a sucker for it. Like most guys.
@Skills , welcome!
  • Most nightlife advice revolves around US clubs specifically close at 2AM > European clubs often close at 6AM
  • Most nightlife advice assume you go out on the weekends > Multiple sources including Roosh, some Huffington Post compatible dating advice site I forget, interviewing girls, and my personal experience suggest when going out weekdays instead of weekends you generally find a friendlier crowd and better ratios; overall you'll have a much nicer experience. European clubs still close at 6AM even on weekdays and usually at least one party (I mean the boy or the girl) has to work on the next day.
  • Alcohol. Some dating advice suggest you shouldn't drink, others suggest to drink a bit socially to ease the mood. I definitely don't drink on a weekday night out.
  • Logistics. Most dating advice imply that you live in a city center just a very short taxi drive away from the venue but most US cities are spread out most people live in extensive suburbs (so I was never able to fully grasp this advice), almost nobody in the CBD, that is central business district, expect for New York. In most places in the world much less people can live just a very short taxi drive away from the clubs - central area as real estate in scarce and prices are high.
  • Venue selection, type of music and cover charges. Chase wrote an article about House clubs. It would be good to know about when the article was written (a decade ago? just 5 years ago? as I cannot think of anything like that for my current situation. European city with a million people. I like EDM but I don't go to such parties (that is, not house clubs) for hot chicks. Though there are usually one or two nice girls in these events vs. in mainstream clubs and I get to know them, most people attend EDM parties for the love of music, myself included. Cover charge, weekends, everyone is allowed to get in, music lover crowd, usually not the hottest girls. We don't have crazy door policies I hear some other places have. Mainstream clubs. They are open every day, even on weekdays, often until 6AM. They literally play the same playlist every single night I'm not motivated to dance to. Often free entry, again, everyone is allowed to get in, a friendly and mixed crowd, some places are full of tourists and exchange students. Local pickup guys go there. This is also my usual venue. No one comes for the music though most everyone is on the dance floor. Even though the club has ample sitting area and gaming (bar games) area, it's almost always empty. "Upscale clubs". This is what we have totally backwards here compared to popular examples from places like New York. The crowd is by rule 10 years older than in the mainstream club and think too much of themselves. The cover charge is affordable or there is even free entry (too much competition) and you are almost guaranteed to get in though you have to dress one bit nicer than to the mainstream club. The place has the shittiest music. Open on the weekends, only locals, an older crowd. Why would I even go there?
I've seen a video which was a revelation to me. Clubs like the mainstream clubs I mentioned play music that girls like so girls go there to be seen, then guys go there because there are girls, everyone drinks, profit. The whole nightclub industry revolves around making hungry guys paying for the bill, but as I've learned from Badboy I game the system. I don't pay for anything, except for soda.

How would your nightlife look in my situation? Thank you.
 
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@Skills , welcome!
  • Most nightlife advice revolves around US clubs specifically close at 2AM > European clubs often close at 6AM
  • Most nightlife advice assume you go out on the weekend > Multiple sources including Roosh, some Huffington Post compatible dating advice site I forget, interviewing girls, and my personal experience suggest when going out weekdays instead of weekends you find better ratios and a friendlier crowd; overall you'll have a better experience. European clubs still close at 6AM even on weekdays and usually at least one party (I mean the boy or the girl) has to work on the next day.
  • Some dating advice suggest you shouldn't drink, others suggest to drink a bit socially to ease the mood. But I definitely won't drink in the above, otherwise ideal weekday situation
  • Most dating advice imply that you live in a city center just a very short taxi drive away from the venue but most US cities are spread out most people live in extensive suburbs (so I was never able to fully grasp this advice), almost nobody in the CBD, that is central business district, expect for New York. In most places in the world much less people can live just a very short taxi drive away from the clubs - central area as real estate in scarce and prices are high.
  • Venue selection, type of music and cover charges. Chase wrote an article about House clubs. It would be good to know about when the article was written (a decade ago? just 5 years ago? as I cannot think of anything like that for my current situation. European city with a million people. I like EDM but I don't go to such parties (that is, not house clubs) for hot chicks, but for the music and friends. Though there are usually one or two night girls in these environments vs. mainstream clubs and I meet them, most people attend these events for the love of music, myself included. Cover charge, weekends, everyone is allowed to get in, music lover crowd. We don't have crazy door policies I hear about other places. Mainstream clubs. They are open every day, even on weekdays, often until 6AM. They literally play the same playlist every single night I'm not motivated to dance to. Fee entry, again, everyone is allowed to get in, friendly crowd, some places are full of tourists and exchange students. And local pickup guys. No one come for the music though most everyone is on the dance floor. Even though the club has ample sitting area and gaming (as in bar games) area, it's almost always empty. Upscale clubs. This is what we have totally backwards here compared to popular examples from places like New York, etc. The crowd is by rule 10 years older than in the mainstream club and think too much of themselves. There is an affordable cover charge and you are almost guaranteed to get in though you have to dress one bit nicer than to the mainstream club. The place has the shittiest music. Open on the weekends. Why would I even go there?
I've seen a video which was a revelation to me. Clubs like the mainstream clubs I mentioned play music that girls like so girls go there to be seen, then guys go there because there are girls, everyone drinks, profit. The whole nightclub industry revolves around making hungry guys paying for the bill, but as I've learned from Badboy I game the system. I don't pay for anything, except for soda.

How would your nightlife look in my situation? Thank you.


Most us clubs do not close at 2 am.... A lot do, but not everywhere, for example in Miami clubs close at 5 am, 45 minutes away in Broward clubs close at 4 am, then in another part of broward at 2 am, now in west palm clubs close at 4 am but in some areas 2 am, it depends on the zone...

I do not like 2 am clubs unless there is after parties or you can bounce to other clubs (or you get there at 10 and is happening and it runs the same dynamics as a club that opens the dynamics start at 12, unfortunately in my PERSONAL experience when clubs close at 2 am they get good at 12:00 pm which is not enough time to run the game the way i want to, it feels rushed) .... the EDM type clubs are not good for dfg in my opinion too many drugs and is hard to escalate vs mainstream clubs... I dont pay for anything, nor even soda for years, but now a days is a different generation an bad boy has not game in about 5 years, now a days i have gotten laid a lot buying a drink or 2 to a girl that is invested (usually 1 drink) and i get laid.... but yes a general rule is to avoid spending a lot of money cause that way you can get more reps, less money>more nights out>more reps>more field experience>the more you get laid if you get positive momentum, now unfortunately with negative momentum the opposite (that is when you hear of 1000 approaches no lays)....
 

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I do, but you need to be well rounded, and learn and practice all types of game instead of using dance floor as a crutch.... Keep also in mind that there are a lot cultural differences... For example in Miami, NY, California that have a big latin population, dance floor game easier than utah full of a pure white demographic..... Though i do get laid consistently from dfg is not ass bang for the buck as a regular run night game that does not include df now a days. (the new generation z is just a weird generation)



It changes depend on the situation and time of the night.... but basically i dance with the sub of fun+sexual attention (vs dancing monkey)>open kind of indirectly (happen to be there)>make her drop the bitch shield>get compliance>sexually escalate (though now a days believe it or not is less physical) and then isolate>pull........ Keep in mind teevester does it different he does verbal first and then dance floor second.... It just what your preference is....



this made me lol, dance...



Both, depending on the time of the night...Also you can force approach invites...



There is not really a time, you mean to pick up, 2-2.5 hours post club opening, since women have become acclimated to the environment, and are a bit warmed and relaxed.... Imagine a hot girl that just got to the club after 2 hours getting ready do you think she comes in and a super hot guys with tight game hits on her she would want to leave (unlikely), she wants to experience the night and experience different guys, hang out with friends take pics and etc...



yes, i answer that above....(is not a hard rule but just understand the dynamics).... Let me give you an example and i always have girls hit me up every weekend to meet at the club, and i flake on them cause i want to experience the night and new girls, and have some adventures... women are the same way, the reason i am like this is cause the more you are in seduction the more you become and act like a hot girl...



There was a good looking dude (claiming to be gl) in nextasf that said he just stand there in different and women come up to him..... I personally seen and experience things like this but is hit and miss and usually are not the women of your choice.... If you just stand in the dance floor scanning the room your value goes down, and you become used furniture... Sleazy has not been gaming for almost 5 years, and he is not the same guy, he is a disgrace now a days...Another red pillier roosh v junior wanna be. Forget about sleazy he is not the same dude your are better off ignoring him and his blog, his blog is unreadable now a days, pure excrement...Even the dudes that were close to him have drifted apart from him, he is too far gone the deep end.... (i suspect his divorce fucked him up)






hat still number 1, and i don't wear hats (but my wing does), women have an excuse to take it off as the way to talk to you...



i don't understand this question... Can you elaborate?

p.s. i love your name, but believe or not most good seducers are validation whores...

p.s .2 guys no more "guru" label please, i am just a normal dude passionate about this stuff...

thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed post.

Though i do get laid consistently from dfg is not ass bang for the buck as a regular run night game that does not include df now a days.

what is your definition of consistently?

how often do you go out and how many girls have you fucked from specifically dancefloor game in 2019?


There was a good looking dude (claiming to be gl) in nextasf that said he just stand there in different and women come up to him..... I personally seen and experience things like this but is hit and miss and usually are not the women of your choice....

I think you are talking about me.

I often run a strategy where i just stand and purposely ignore all the girls and i posted a popular thread about it on nextasf.

but you misunderstood what i said.

When running this strategy, i do NOT stand on the dancefloor.

I stand in the highest visibility spot i can find in the club.

And yes you are right the women who approach me are usually 6s and 7s mostly 6s.

And yes the strategy does not work well at all for me.

I've been going clubbing 2-7 times per week since 2013 and I usually run this strategy and I've fucked 5 girls with this strategy who approached me and I was not really attracted to any of these 5 girls.


If you just stand in the dance floor scanning the room your value goes down, and you become used furniture...

why do you assume standing on the dance floor also involves scanning the room?

what if you stand on the dancefloor with low awareness radius almost like you're bored/aloof and too good for everyone in the club?

have you ever tested such a strategy?


i don't understand this question... Can you elaborate

I was talking about positioning.

It's something not a lot of people talk about but i know chase wrote about it.

where you physically place yourself in the club in my opinion matters a lot and I'm wondering if its the same for the dancefloor specifically.

For example, I always go out alone and my goal for positioning is to find a spot in the club that is highly visible but not super crowded

My thinking is this:

I want high visibility so girls can notice me and give me approach invitations or even approach me themself

I dont want the spot to be crowded because it's hard to give out a cool/attractive/high status image if every 2 min
you need to move so someone can walk by.

So my question was; what are the key tips of positioning for the dancefloor specifically?

Should i try to be right in the middle where its super crowded and you are surrounded by layers of people?

Or its better to be on the outside meaning the outer layers of the dancefloor?

or maybe there is an even better spot i did not think off?

what is the best spot on the dance floor to maximize girls noticing you and make it as easy as possible to start an interaction?


p.s. i love your name, but believe or not most good seducers are validation whores...

It's interesting you say this

what exactly do you mean by "validation whores"?

do you mean they chase women not out of lust but to feel better about themselves because they have low self esteem?

what about you? are you in this purely for sexual pleasure or you are also after validation?
 

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Here’s what I do as a man who can’t dance. I walk very slowly through the dance floor looking for eye contact. If I get it I say hi and spin her around. So gamey, but no one does it anymore. I then try to isolate her off the dance floor. My dance floor game is to get her off the dance floor as fast as possible.
 

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thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed post.

Though i do get laid consistently from dfg is not ass bang for the buck as a regular run night game that does not include df now a days.

what is your definition of consistently?

how often do you go out and how many girls have you fucked from specifically dancefloor game in 2019?


There was a good looking dude (claiming to be gl) in nextasf that said he just stand there in different and women come up to him..... I personally seen and experience things like this but is hit and miss and usually are not the women of your choice....

I think you are talking about me.

I often run a strategy where i just stand and purposely ignore all the girls and i posted a popular thread about it on nextasf.

but you misunderstood what i said.

When running this strategy, i do NOT stand on the dancefloor.

I stand in the highest visibility spot i can find in the club.

And yes you are right the women who approach me are usually 6s and 7s mostly 6s.

And yes the strategy does not work well at all for me.

I've been going clubbing 2-7 times per week since 2013 and I usually run this strategy and I've fucked 5 girls with this strategy who approached me and I was not really attracted to any of these 5 girls.


If you just stand in the dance floor scanning the room your value goes down, and you become used furniture...

why do you assume standing on the dance floor also involves scanning the room?

what if you stand on the dancefloor with low awareness radius almost like you're bored/aloof and too good for everyone in the club?

have you ever tested such a strategy?


i don't understand this question... Can you elaborate

I was talking about positioning.

It's something not a lot of people talk about but i know chase wrote about it.

where you physically place yourself in the club in my opinion matters a lot and I'm wondering if its the same for the dancefloor specifically.

For example, I always go out alone and my goal for positioning is to find a spot in the club that is highly visible but not super crowded

My thinking is this:

I want high visibility so girls can notice me and give me approach invitations or even approach me themself

I dont want the spot to be crowded because it's hard to give out a cool/attractive/high status image if every 2 min
you need to move so someone can walk by.

So my question was; what are the key tips of positioning for the dancefloor specifically?

Should i try to be right in the middle where its super crowded and you are surrounded by layers of people?

Or its better to be on the outside meaning the outer layers of the dancefloor?

or maybe there is an even better spot i did not think off?

what is the best spot on the dance floor to maximize girls noticing you and make it as easy as possible to start an interaction?


p.s. i love your name, but believe or not most good seducers are validation whores...

It's interesting you say this

what exactly do you mean by "validation whores"?

do you mean they chase women not out of lust but to feel better about themselves because they have low self esteem?

what about you? are you in this purely for sexual pleasure or you are also after validation?


just lol, you are the same sedfast dude! hahahahaha! dude did you ever try the proviron?? i will answer later and go in detail...
 

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You shouldn’t take proviron without a testosterone base. It will shut you down. It’s a dht so it doesn’t increase your test at all which means a shut down is no bueno.
 

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You shouldn’t take proviron without a testosterone base. It will shut you down. It’s a dht so it doesn’t increase your test at all which means a shut down is no bueno.


do you have any factual evidence of this.... Or any field tested experience with this, please go in extremely detail and please provide your sources....

question:

1.- for how long did you try it and what dosage?

2.- link any scientific evidence for your claim...

thanks in advance...
 

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I wouldn’t take any dht steroids as they can cause hair loss and I like my hair. Some say it doesn’t shutdown but I don’t buy it. Don’t know how it could be the one aas that doesn’t.
 

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I’ll add that everyone’s endocrine system is different. Hypothetically it could shut some people down and not others. You shouldn’t be taking any anabolics without getting regular bloodwork.
 

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Here’s what I do as a man who can’t dance. I walk very slowly through the dance floor looking for eye contact. If I get it I say hi and spin her around. So gamey, but no one does it anymore. I then try to isolate her off the dance floor. My dance floor game is to get her off the dance floor as fast as possible.

I walk very slowly through the dance floor looking for eye contact.

How much time do you usually spend on the dancefloor before you get eye contact from someone you like and start an interaction.

Also, what do you do if you walk through the entire dancefloor once and you dont get any eye contact from someone you like?

if this happens do you exit the dancefloor and come back later or do you just keep walking back and forth on the dancefloor until you get eye contact from someone you like?


If I get it I say hi and spin her around.

c
an you explain this in more details?

so you make eye contact and you immediately walk up to her?

do you hold eye contact as you walk up to her?

do you come in from the front or do you come in from the side or it does not matter?

you then loudly say hi and then immediately without saying anything else grab her hand and spin her?

what is the point of spinning her?
 

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The spin handshake is an old school pua move. Maybe the most basic and well known. I don’t know why but chicks tend to respond very favorably to it. If I don’t get eye contact I’ll usually just tap tap hello spin handshake. The opening isn’t important really. Getting her off the dance floor is the important part. Generally it’s too loud to run any real verbals. Verbals and body language are my strong suits, I don’t do so well with physical game. I’m more of what you would consider a coquette.
 

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The spin handshake is an old school pua move. Maybe the most basic and well known. I don’t know why but chicks tend to respond very favorably to it. If I don’t get eye contact I’ll usually just tap tap hello spin handshake. The opening isn’t important really. Getting her off the dance floor is the important part. Generally it’s too loud to run any real verbals. Verbals and body language are my strong suits, I don’t do so well with physical game. I’m more of what you would consider a coquette.

If I don’t get eye contact I’ll usually just tap tap hello spin handshake.

what is your success rate with this?

I'm assuming since you are doing this on girls who gave you no approach invitations that you get a lot of rejections doing this on the dancefloor.

am i correct?
 

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Normally if you put your hand out they’ll still grab it and let you spin them out of impulse. Then if they’re not interested they just turn they’re back to you and ignore you. If you’re doing this to girls within your own league you’re really unlikely to get a harsh blowout. If you’ve never fucked a seven and do this to 8+ girls try at your own risk.

Also I’m in Los Angeles where a lot of this stuff originated. Girls are very “free” here. Might not work as well other places.
 
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