What Is The Best DanceFloor Strategy In 2019?

[Space]

Here’s what I do as a man who can’t dance. I walk very slowly through the dance floor looking for eye contact. If I get it I say hi and spin her around. So gamey, but no one does it anymore. I then try to isolate her off the dance floor. My dance floor game is to get her off the dance floor as fast as possible.

Do you go for solo girls? If not how do you handle group dynamics? We don't have solo girls in clubs, this is not America. The rare solo girls I see are desperately seeking their friends they are disconnected from (often as tourists abroad) and are much less open to an introduction than after reuniting with them. They are so nervous.

 

[naturalmikey]

They’ve pretty much always have friends. Some friends are cool but most friends suck. If it weren’t for friends there’d be a lot more fuckin going on. Girls are party poopers a lot of the time.

 

[Skills]

thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed post.

n/p

what is your definition of consistently?

Dfg is mainly a none verbal/physical game vs a verbal game, but now a days is not as control as verbal, so my point is if you want to get laid of dfg consistantly (meaning control)you need to be able to do verbal game...

how often do you go out and how many girls have you fucked from specifically dancefloor game in 2019?

First i have to put things into context for this answer i am almost 45 years old, i have done everything that there is to do sexual and have fucked every type of girl there is(missing midget and full asian), also i always have access to vagina(i always have a main, my new main is the best i ever had given bjs) and regularly get laid minimum twice a week, my sex drive is not what it used to be. The reason i am telling you all of this is in the context that my motivation for getting laid is not as high as you, i can take it or leave it, usually if i do not get laid i have a girl waiting at home. I can not recall the whole year last month 3 new ones now i go out once or twice a week.

I think you are talking about me.

I often run a strategy where i just stand and purposely ignore all the girls and i posted a popular thread about it on nextasf.

yes i was referring to you which made me lol...what a small world.

but you misunderstood what i said.

When running this strategy, i do NOT stand on the dancefloor.

I stand in the highest visibility spot i can find in the club.

And yes you are right the women who approach me are usually 6s and 7s mostly 6s.

And yes the strategy does not work well at all for me.

I've been going clubbing 2-7 times per week since 2013 and I usually run this strategy and I've fucked 5 girls with this strategy who approached me and I was not really attracted to any of these 5 girls.

i did understand it, this is my point, i do not mind fucking a 6 or a 7, my problem with you is this "not attracted" that is horrible, i can not fuck a girl i am not attracted to.

why do you assume standing on the dance floor also involves scanning the room?

what if you stand on the dancefloor with low awareness radius almost like you're bored/aloof and too good for everyone in the club?

have you ever tested such a strategy?

of course, i told you in the other forum, and the results similar to yours... And a lot of naturals i hang out with have similar strategies...I don't like it, but i still do it combined with dancing at the beginning of the night...(my way to warm up)

I was talking about positioning.

It's something not a lot of people talk about but i know chase wrote about it.

where you physically place yourself in the club in my opinion matters a lot and I'm wondering if its the same for the dancefloor specifically.

For example, I always go out alone and my goal for positioning is to find a spot in the club that is highly visible but not super crowded

My thinking is this:

I want high visibility so girls can notice me and give me approach invitations or even approach me themself

I dont want the spot to be crowded because it's hard to give out a cool/attractive/high status image if every 2 min
you need to move so someone can walk by.

So my question was; what are the key tips of positioning for the dancefloor specifically?

Should i try to be right in the middle where its super crowded and you are surrounded by layers of people?

Or its better to be on the outside meaning the outer layers of the dancefloor?

or maybe there is an even better spot i did not think off?

what is the best spot on the dance floor to maximize girls noticing you and make it as easy as possible to start an interaction?

you are spot on, and this changes based on club, crowd that night, and a bunch of other factors, so you obviously got this down(positioning) there is not hard rule, mainly i like the outsides at the beginning of the night, but sometimes i do middle if there is a mini circle jerk, but again there is not hard rule depends on circumstances, but i will say your understanding is really good based on what you wrote, so go by your instinct in this one. Me personally again mainly do outsides...

hey chase women not out of lust but to feel better about themselves because they have low self esteem?

what about you? are you

It's interesting you say this

what exactly do you mean by "validation whores"?


in this purely for sexual pleasure or you are also after validation?

wait, you take it a bit far here... i would say they do it no necessarily for sexual pleasure, but for seduction adventure, thrill of the chase and getting a stranger to bed.... like a sport...

 

[Skills]

I’ll add that everyone’s endocrine system is different. Hypothetically it could shut some people down and not others. You shouldn’t be taking any anabolics without getting regular bloodwork.

proviron is the safest stuff there is, is legal in most countries, and minimal to no side effects, i was trying to set you, up cause:

1- you have 0 experience. (i have almost a year experience)

2.- you have 0 back up scientific proof....

in the community we call this kj about a subject...

Proviron, All You Need To Know!!

Basal TSH did not vary, but there was a reduction in the peak and integrated TSH response to TRH. PRL levels were unaltered during fluoxymesterone treatment.

www.streetdirectory.com

I did the work so you don't even have to read it:

Abstract refuting that Proviron is not highly suppressive

Here is the study I was referring to. Only 85 men out of 250 showed any suppression. Proviron did not shut down the HPTA in any of the subjects and that was at 150mg for 1 year. I would say its pretty safe and has very little effect on one's HPTA

This study shows no effect on normal LH and FSH with 100-150mg/ d mesterolone, and decrease of FSH/LH that were elevated.

Proviron doesn't substitute Clomid as hpta therapy, but doesn't get in the way, either.

The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosterone and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men.

 

[naturalmikey]

so basically it does suppress 1/3 of men's natural testosterone. if you're past 30 your test may already be a low as 300. I wouldn't risk lowering the number without talking to a doctor. again as i said, i am not a doctor, but i would consult one before doing any aas.

it also does cause hairloss in men with the mpb gene. 80% of men have that gene. i don't know what i'd do if i lost my hair. i know i would be heartbroken. their are definitely concerns with any dht steroid. hairloss for me is enough to not do them.

i don't know maybe you're a doctor. but you should really give all the facts before recommending anabolics to people on line.

also are you getting bloodwork done?

 

[naturalmikey]

and you are right about it not shutting people down. i just assumed it would because every other aas does. it along with anavar are known to be the safest and proviron and masteron are both popular for effects on libido. but damn man hairloss just doesn't sound good. i actually have a half bottle of masteron. i got tired of running my hands through my hair to see if any was falling out and studying my hairline in

 

[SexNotValidation]

let's keep this conversation going.

so far we have skills who revealed his strategy.

I'm sure you guys of course know about the long dancefloor series Teevster wrote

Do any of you run any dance floor specific strategy that is different from what skills and teevster are doing?

I'm especially curious if any of you run a dancefloor strategy that does not involve any actual dancing like what i hear sleazy used to do.

 

[Teevster]

Why are you guys talking about testo and other supplements meds on a thread about dancefloor game? Not saying the subject is not allowed to discuss, but in the future try not to derail. Instead make a new thread

It is simple: new subject = new thread.

Thanks

 

[Teevster]

My strategies are the following:

1. Screening game - screen for receptive girls (i.e. who shows you interest) and eventually also logistically available (i.e. no surrounding by men, easy to walk up to and so on). You may also trigger approach invitation by standing next to them and see if they look at you, or just bump into them.
a) Open boldly - risky but powerful - grab hand and spin around
b) Indirect - a bit of dancing, touching or whatever, then walk a few meter away and see if she looks at you, and then go back in once you feel she is compliant enough. If she ignores, you know she is not compliant and move on (maybe she will be compliant later).

2. Social proof based. Now here the social proof will serve as a mean to:
a) Build social momentum - to feel warmed up
b) To come off as more sexually attractive pre-approach. In other words you get more and strongers AI's. It also gives you a higher baseline compliance.
c) by interacting with more women, you more accidently "end-up" with a/the desired target. This is what I have balled "rebound" where you approach a nearby set in order to use that set to levitate towards the more desired. It is always easier to open a set, when you are in another set.

So the idea for me is to just have fun and dance in a fun and playful way and not caring about escalating. This is a low-compliance request from women. Be goofey if you have to - women have less problems dancing in a fun and goofey way with a guy. The goal is to be ACCEPTED. That's all. And not REJECTED. Can you do that? Good.

Thing is, it snowballs, and when you suddenly dance in a fun and goofey non-sexual way with 5 girls, you can at any time approach another girl nearby and THEN go in full-on sexual. Or you may just start going more sexual with the girls you are currently dancing with and escalate the vibe with more ease, since compliance is there due to social proof.

This is also a great strategy if you are not feeling the social momentum/modjo . If you are not feeling it, the whole idea of running in cold and bold may be a bit too scary and actually due to your current vibe will have low chances of success unless you are fortunate enough to spot a clear AI from a desirable girl (as per option 1). Going the social proof way eases you up and puts you in a social mood. Remember mood scales like this: Introversion => social mood => sexual mood.

3. The third option is to hook verbal outside, and eventually extract her to the dancefloor. In this case the dancefloor becomes simply an arena to escalate the vibe.

My take.

Best,

 

[Space]

Most us clubs do not close at 2 am.... A lot do, but not everywhere, for example in Miami clubs close at 5 am, 45 minutes away in Broward clubs close at 4 am, then in another part of broward at 2 am, now in west palm clubs close at 4 am but in some areas 2 am, it depends on the zone...

About the 2AM close. I'm just parroting here what I'm hearing about the average American city here and elsewhere. I'm glad you live in one of the nightlife capitals, though.

the EDM type clubs are not good for dfg in my opinion too many drugs and is hard to escalate vs mainstream clubs...

Dunno what are your EDM type clubs. Mines range from small clubs to large concert halls and illegal parties in the forest. Even in the case of the forest party I wouldn't consider drug users to be more than 20% of the participants. I don't take drugs so that may be my cognitive bias, who knows. For me EDM is like half social circle. People tend to know each other more than in the mainstream club so that may work against hooking up on the spot. However Roosh's forum (before it turned born again Christian) have a point that these events are good for getting to know interesting girls (depending on who's interesting for ya), exchanging info and setting up dates later. If you aren't categorically against that.

an bad boy has not game in about 5 years

What do you mean by Badboy hasn't been in the game for 5 years? His home page lists a handful of events. He seems to got more seriously into YouTube at the time the Girls Chase folks did (and seems legit there) but managed to accrue twice the subscribers. Despite his signature accent. Or rather on the contrary, because of it? Of course it's possible that he fakes all these, got married and you are privy of his secret.

Back to the dancefloor. Do you have any actionable advice for my situation perhaps besides what Teevster wrote in the previous post? It's hard to imagine myself being that guy. In that club. Maybe the saying different strokes for different folks (and different settings) apply here as well.

 

[Teevster]

What do you mean by Badboy hasn't been in the game for 5 years? His home page lists a handful of events. As it seems he got into YouTube at the time the Girls Chase folks did and seems legit there, but still has twice the subscribers. Despite his signature accent. Or because of it? Of course it's possible that he fakes all these, got married and you are privy of his secret.

Back to the dancefloor. Do you have any actionable advice for my situation perhaps besides what Teevster wrote in the previous post? It's hard to imagine myself being that guy. In that club. Maybe the saying different strokes for different folks (and different settings) apply here as well.

Badboy was away for a while though so do not blame skills for having these facts wrong.

I cannot resonate with Badboy's advice, but from what I have heard from a well-respected Veteran known as "Razorjack", is that Badboy is legit.

 

[Skills]

About the 2AM close. I'm just parroting here what I'm hearing about the average American city here and elsewhere. I'm glad you live in one of the nightlife capitals, though.


Dunno what are your EDM type clubs. Mines range from small clubs to large concert halls and illegal parties in the forest. Even in the case of the forest party I wouldn't consider drug users to be more than 20% of the participants. I don't take drugs so that may be my cognitive bias, who knows. For me EDM is like half social circle. People tend to know each other more than in the mainstream club so that may work against hooking up on the spot. However Roosh's forum (before it turned born again Christian) have a point that these events are good for getting to know interesting girls (depending on who's interesting for ya), exchanging info and setting up dates later. If you aren't categorically against that.


What do you mean by Badboy hasn't been in the game for 5 years? His home page lists a handful of events. He seems to got more seriously into YouTube at the time the Girls Chase folks did (and seems legit there) but managed to accrue twice the subscribers. Despite his signature accent. Or rather on the contrary, because of it? Of course it's possible that he fakes all these, got married and you are privy of his secret.

Back to the dancefloor. Do you have any actionable advice for my situation perhaps besides what Teevster wrote in the previous post? It's hard to imagine myself being that guy. In that club. Maybe the saying different strokes for different folks (and different settings) apply here as well.

- i try to keep away from those cities were clubs close early, again for the reasons i gave early, but i also heard that there are clubs that get going early.... In West Palm for example on sunday we have clubs that open at 2 pm afternoon were they have 2 for 1 mimosas and the clubs are super super packed, better than any club on a saturday night.

-i was not aware that bad boy was gaming (as teevester explained). About his pick up advise i really don't remember... You will have to refresh my memory on what he advices on the dance floor...

- I like what teevester wrote is similar to the stuff i do or teach - i don't do the verbal and take them to the dance floor most of the nights, do i have done that strategy it works i have gotten laid doing that a lot, but dance floor when i got laid doing that was not even needed,....

 

[Skills]

About the 2AM close. I'm just parroting here what I'm hearing about the average American city here and elsewhere. I'm glad you live in one of the nightlife capitals, though.


Dunno what are your EDM type clubs. Mines range from small clubs to large concert halls and illegal parties in the forest. Even in the case of the forest party I wouldn't consider drug users to be more than 20% of the participants. I don't take drugs so that may be my cognitive bias, who knows. For me EDM is like half social circle. People tend to know each other more than in the mainstream club so that may work against hooking up on the spot. However Roosh's forum (before it turned born again Christian) have a point that these events are good for getting to know interesting girls (depending on who's interesting for ya), exchanging info and setting up dates later. If you aren't categorically against that.


What do you mean by Badboy hasn't been in the game for 5 years? His home page lists a handful of events. He seems to got more seriously into YouTube at the time the Girls Chase folks did (and seems legit there) but managed to accrue twice the subscribers. Despite his signature accent. Or rather on the contrary, because of it? Of course it's possible that he fakes all these, got married and you are privy of his secret.

Back to the dancefloor. Do you have any actionable advice for my situation perhaps besides what Teevster wrote in the previous post? It's hard to imagine myself being that guy. In that club. Maybe the saying different strokes for different folks (and different settings) apply here as well.

- i try to keep away from those cities were clubs close early, again for the reasons i gave early, but i also heard that there are clubs that get going early.... In West Palm for example on sunday we have clubs that open at 2 pm afternoon were they have 2 for 1 mimosas and the clubs are super super packed, better than any club on a saturday night.

-i was not aware that bad boy was gaming (as teevester explained). About his pick up advise i really don't remember... You will have to refresh my memory on what he advices on the dance floor...

- I like what teevester wrote is similar to the stuff i do or teach - i don't do the verbal and take them to the dance floor most of the nights, do i have done that strategy it works i have gotten laid doing that a lot, but dance floor when i got laid doing that was not even needed,....

-I already replied to your situation

 

[Space]

-i was not aware that bad boy was gaming (as teevester explained). About his pick up advise i really don't remember... You will have to refresh my memory on what he advices on the dance floor...

All I said about his advice on how much to spend in clubs. Your spending being closer to zero the better. But Bayboy's dance floor advice is also easy for me as this is what I'm mostly living by. That is

"If you can't dance, stay away from the dance floor"

My dancing skills vary though. Be it some cool EDM or the exact same mainstream pop playlist every night.

-I already replied to your situation

You mentioned how long clubs are open in America, how much you don't pay in clubs and EDM. I can't find the advice part.

Probably I have to figure this out by myself or from other sources. Never mind.

 

[Space]

So I have this sticking point in clubs. It's a repeating pattern. My club background. It's usually a pair of girls. We have a good chemistry. Her friend is positive about us, she doesn't cock block. But of course girls come to the club in the first place not only to meet guys but to dance and be seen on the dancefloor. Something like that.

It usually goes like this: "it was nice talking to you, let's keep in touch"! We've already exchanged contacts and I am the one leaving earlier as I usually go out weekdays and there's work the next day. Then what?

But Bayboy's dance floor advice is also easy for me as this is what I'm mostly living by. That is

"If you can't dance, stay away from the dance floor"

Then the other variant is "come, dance with us"! Then what?

 

[SexNotValidation]

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[Skills]

All I said about his advice on how much to spend in clubs. Your spending being closer to zero the better. But Bayboy's dance floor advice is also easy for me as this is what I'm mostly living by. That is

"If you can't dance, stay away from the dance floor"

My dancing skills vary though. Be it some cool EDM or the exact same mainstream pop playlist every night.


You mentioned how long clubs are open in America, how much you don't pay in clubs and EDM. I can't find the advice part.

Probably I have to figure this out by myself or from other sources. Never mind.

sorry i did not see this, there are many ways to avoid cover charge and many posts on the subject glow did one the other day...

 

[Skills]

So I have this sticking point in clubs. It's a repeating pattern. My club background. It's usually a pair of girls. We have a good chemistry. Her friend is positive about us, she doesn't cock block. But of course girls come to the club in the first place not only to meet guys but to dance and be seen on the dancefloor. Something like that.

It usually goes like this: "it was nice talking to you, let's keep in touch"! We've already exchanged contacts and I am the one leaving earlier as I usually go out weekdays and there's work the next day. Then what?



Then the other variant is "come, dance with us"! Then what?

numbers are low probability and i do not even get numbers unless strong chemestry, and heavy escalation, strong vive etc... is higher odds to try to go all the way.... go out on the weekends then... "it was nice talking to you let's keep in touch" meh... say "you know i usually get bored dancing with girls after 3 songs i had enough, all they want to do is grind, but with you is a lot of fun, we got a do this again, i will make you my dancing partner" or some shit like that...

 

[Space]

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I bet you opened this topic to expect a discussion about dance moves and dance styles to learn (such as hip-hop and various Latin dances) so that you can one of those guys having great fun with girls on the dancefloor. You know what? Me too. Hence the title of your topic.

How Learning to Dance Helps You Attract Women

If you’re good on the dance floor, girls will assume you’re also good in bed. Don’t know how to dance? No problem. Classes are also a great place to meet sexy girls! Women love a man who can dance. Basically, you’re communicating with your bodies. Sounds a lot like sex, right? When on the dance...

www.girlschase.com

I’ve concluded that salsa is the most humiliating dancing style for men. - Roosh

 

[Space]

@Skills, I appreciate your answers. Well, the title of the topic is What Is The Best DanceFloor Strategy In 2019? (it's almost 2020, but never mind) and it's not me who opened it, I just joined.

So the first question one might ask about this should be what do you mean by best dancefloor strategy? It may mean two different things to me.

One. Going from being this guy

"If you can't dance, stay away from the dance floor"

to this guy

so that you can one of those guys having great fun with girls on the dancefloor.

Two. Leaving with a girl at the end of the night. Alex Social's front door rule (leaving the club with a girl). That is of course also a very valid but separate discussion may or may not has to do anything with dancefloor moves, I'm not sure.

What are your goals? That's always the first question to ask. As in it's the first lesson in Todd's Crash Course. I wanted to write something about my main goal with seduction in my topic but the draft system of this forum ate it after 24 hours. But my goals for the dancefloor topic is the first option: going from being the guy who is far from being a good dancer (to shitty mainstream pop he at best tolerates especially it's the same playlist every night) to the guy who has great fun with girls on the dancefloor.

To briefly address your advice about going to the club in the weekends rather than on weekdays. I appreciate that your hobby YouTube channel has more subscribers than the Girls Chase channel who are doing it professionally. And your videos I've watched and your related posts on your site always have a few encouraging comment. But did you noticed that on your video Proven ways to get in free in night clubs and night venues and your related blog post have zero comments? So somehow this one skill may not translate well across cities, countries and cultures. Also it's not clear for me what is your go-to method to not stress yourself over every single time you want to get into your favorite club or you have to find a tricky way to sneaky yourself in every night? That may be fun and adventurous, but not sustainable and providing peace of mind if you ask me. You also say things like you go to the VIP line where there is no cashier. In my club it's the complete opposite. You have a long, free line and you can buy yourself a relatively faster but still not instant entry (on busy simmer nights at least) for some cash. I can get in the weekends for free if I arrive in time or as my schedule goes sometimes I go in the weekends like it was the last time but your advice "go on the weekend" still not addresses one of my main issue.

• Most nightlife advice assume you go out on the weekends > Multiple sources including Roosh, some Huffington Post compatible dating advice site I forget, interviewing girls, and my personal experience suggest when going out weekdays instead of weekends you generally find a friendlier crowd and better ratios; overall you'll have a much nicer experience.

I didn't make statistics but from the last year I can remember numerous time I've connected and meet cool, nice, interesting girls (I just don't call girls hot lol) during weeknights but I can only remember one such occasion from a weekend night. Worse ratios, fewer girls, higher shields, it's a different crowd.

But anyway, the latter part of my message has nothing to do with my reason joining SexNotValidation's dancefloor topic: to exchange ideas on have fun with girls on the dancefloor, that's it. We can discuss the rest at the right place at the right time.