Why are all Spanish girls such bitches?

[Chase]

Simply not true about France. My first trip, I met a woman who was visiting Lyon on business from a small town outside Paris, we fell in love that night, I ended up living with her and her kids near Paris. There were no misconceptions about how long I could stay. We always spoke English (though I am fluent in French, which was used in any other social situation and with her kids).

Also, I lived in Krakow for a few months, and "dated" several women.

Basically, it comes down to YOU. Don't make these blanket statements. Really, you only look bad.

A singular anecdote (of a rapid romance with a single mother, no doubt) does not a pattern make.

Like @Swati, I wonder why "dating" the Polish chicks is in "quotes."

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Interesting to note that some places with notable foreigner bonuses in the past have seen those foreigner bonuses go away:

• Czech Republic in the 1990s
• Croatia in the 2000s
• Poland and Romania in the 2010s

The Philippines used to have a HUGE foreigner bonus but according to @Karea Ricardus D. it's really fallen off.

The bonus only lasts until word gets out about how easy it is to bed the local women, then all the degenerates flood in.

The women realize the guys coming now are poor back home, losers, guys who can't get laid in their home countries, and the foreigner bonus turns into foreigner skepticism.

When I was in South Korea I had guys telling me how the default reaction of South Korean chicks is to think a foreigner is probably an English teacher (which is considered super low status). So you either wanted to get right out and tell her you weren't that, or you just had to hope your frame and attractiveness was enough to overcome it (plus hope she's one of the more chill chicks who doesn't care as much). Funny thing was all the expat PUAs I was going out with in South Korea were, indeed, English teachers.

Chase

 

[gameboy]

Spanish girls, and Spanish people in general, seem to be one of the warmest, most welcoming, most naturally friendly of all western Europe. And Spanish women are hot, for me coming in second place after the French, in western Europe.

I guess that this discussion is basically subjective. We know that we are all different and we have different preferences regarding women. Some like beefier women, some like slimmer women, some like short women, some like tall women, some like white women, some like darker women.

I completely agree to this. Except that for me, Spanish and Italian girls probably would come out on top.

My last two LTRs were Spanish, which is why the thread title cracked me up Yes they're hot, but they can also be hot blooded bitches.

It's true, you don't get a foreigner bonus in the Mediterranean. But you can still get hot girls. It helps a lot to learn the language and a bit about the culture.

Good luck trying to day game with English though. Most locals only have basic notions of the language, enough maybe to take an order in a restaurant, but that's about it. Foreginers are mostly known for wearing sandals with socks and getting themselves killed trying to jump from their hotel room balcony into the pool.

The competition from the local guys is stiff, as Chase noted. The guys are much more forward than most Northern Europeeans. Maybe they are less sexually repressed. A Spanish girl who had lived in my country once told me: "When a Spanish guy likes you, you know it... in your country, I didn't!"

 

[Atlas IV]

Know why Colombia's Antioquia region is famous for having some of the hottest women in the world?

Because the ancestors of that region came from Andalucia.

I can say definitively, having travelled across almost every continent, that I have not found a higher concentration of hot girls (I'm talking drop dead gorgeous girls with perfect bodies and faces) than in the cities of Andalucia, specifically Seville.

I'm guessing it's due to a combination of genetics and the southern European diet/lifestyle.

If anyone says that Spanish women are not hot, either they are in the wrong part of Spain (I hear that the northerners are kinda meh) or they have very unusual beauty standards.

In saying that, I also found the women of this region to be the most cagey, elusive, and difficult to meet of girls that I have met anywhere. I had very little success there (as I wrote about in detail in my journal on a rather frustrating dry streak while staying in Seville for the summer).

As @Chase mentioned above, your best chances in Spain are with the other expats, particularly the Latinas (and there is no shortage of beautiful Latinas in Spain, especially in Madrid and Barcelona). Being foreigners themselves, they are culturally much more open to dating foreigners.

Spain I believe is actually one of the most xenophobic cultures in the world alongside Japan - and I heard this from a Spanish girl. (Coincidentally the Andalucians have a very strong affinity with Japan through the medium of flamenco - there are more flamenco schools in Japan than anywhere else in the world).

Of the foreigners I met there, the only one I knew who was actually dating a local Andalucian girl was a French guy who studied at my flamenco school. He was dating the daughter of the family that ran the school (the mother teaches dance, the father teaches guitar), so he was essentially marrying into the family. A completely different situation to what we're talking about.

Are Spanish girls bitches? No, I think it's just the culture they come from - one of strong family bonds and feminist values where women are naturally pedestalized (just watch the dance of flamenco to see what I mean - the woman is dominant, aggressive, and commands the attention of the men surrounding her).

Not a place I'd go back to for PUA, but I can see nonetheless why they proud of their culture (and their women).

 

[POB]

Ngl, I have limited experience with european chicks, especially from Spain...but what had always worked for me was to be super direct, grab the frame and never let it go. They have no time/patience for slow seduction or indirect stuff.

Kinda of the same for Brazilians, Colombians and the likes...if they are hot, they are used to be approached on a daily, so you have to keep up with that pace.

 

[gameboy]

Know why Colombia's Antioquia region is famous for having some of the hottest women in the world?

Because the ancestors of that region came from Andalucia.

Interesting, I didn't know that.

Just out of curiosity, do they also have those enormous asses that many Colombians seem to have? Because that's a turnoff for me. If they are actually slim then maybe I want to go there.

 

[Atlas IV]

Interesting, I didn't know that.

Just out of curiosity, do they also have those enormous asses that many Colombians seem to have? Because that's a turnoff for me. If they are actually slim then maybe I want to go there.

You mean the Colombian girls of the region I mentioned?

It's a variety, but in the smaller cities you'll certainly notice that they have the "traditional Colombian" look - slim, jet black hair, nice figure.

The "mega booty" seems to be a Medellin specific thing. It's notorious as the capital of cosmetic surgery.

 

[ChrisXKiss]

If anyone says that Spanish women are not hot, either they are in the wrong part of Spain (I hear that the northerners are kinda meh) or they have very unusual beauty standards.

I can say that I was in Bilbao, north Spain, for a week and the place was dead. And I’ve heard it by others mentioning that these areas are just empty of attractive women. I was surprised by how pretty the city was though, so at least it was worth the trip.

Never been to Sevilla, but I’ve also heard pretty much everyone saying that in these area girls there are the most attractive in Spain, so there surely is a difference between the north and the south.

Regarding the looks, south Spain was also occupied by the Arabs for a while, that’s why people there tend to have darker colours and I suspect it plays a role in the way the girls down there became more attractive, and also why they look more like colombians.

It’s also true about the language, it is always a mess trying to talk in English with Spanish girls, especially those in Spain. Another thing is there are very tightly connected to their social circles, I’ve never seen other ethnicities go to tours around Europe by groups of so many people. And Spanish girls I have talked to confirm this, that they have their group of friends since childhood that they do everything together, and very few spread their wings to leave a more independent life.

And because someone mentioned Portuguese as well, I was in Porto for a weekend and can confirm that you couldn’t find many attractive girls. I think most of the ones I ended up approaching were either tourists or expats. In fact I remember I was in another place after that, and I heard a beautiful girl speaking portuguese, and thought oh damn they do have some hot ones as well. Or she was just brazilian, I don’t know, she had husband and kids and didn’t approach.

 

[Atlas IV]

Regarding the looks, south Spain was also occupied by the Arabs for a while, that’s why people there tend to have darker colours and I suspect it plays a role in the way the girls down there became more attractive, and also why they look more like colombians.

That's an interesting point, I never thought about that.

I wonder there have been any DNA studies on Colombians to see if they have some Arab blood...

It’s also true about the language, it is always a mess trying to talk in English with Spanish girls, especially those in Spain. Another thing is there are very tightly connected to their social circles, I’ve never seen other ethnicities go to tours around Europe by groups of so many people. And Spanish girls I have talked to confirm this, that they have their group of friends since childhood that they do everything together, and very few spread their wings to leave a more independent life.

Yeah, I was also told exactly this by the few Spanish girls I did date (and they were mostly girls from other provinces of Spain). Social circles are tight-knit, and even Spaniards from a different city of the same region seem to have trouble breaking into new friend groups.

It's probably quite different in a place like Madrid, where I'm sure there are a lot of internal migrants from different parts of Spain who are forced to make new friends in a new city.

 

[ChrisVirtue]

Eh, you lost me at the "I ended up living with her and her "KIDS" near Paris"

As for your "DATED" in Krakow, I have no idea what you are referring to. If you date some divorcee, old hag, bang a couple of prostitutes, yeah man I wouldn't brag about that much since it seems like you got a record prior.

Maybe Chase will change the policy of not posting, sugar dating, or any form of transaction encounters in the future

to be fair this is his first post, so could cut him some slack

 

[POB]

Just out of curiosity, do they also have those enormous asses that many Colombians seem to have? Because that's a turnoff for me. If they are actually slim then maybe I want to go there.

What I saw when I was there were slim chicks with medium booties and medium boobs, that classic violin shape with curves.
In comparison to the average hot brazilians, they had smaller asses, smaller waists but bigger boobs

 

[Hue]

@alleniverson

 

[Marty]

What I saw when I was there were slim chicks with medium booties and medium boobs, that classic violin shape with curves.
In comparison to the average hot brazilians, they had smaller asses, smaller waists but bigger boobs

Saw exactly this in Barcelona too (maybe only Catalan girls though, not Castilian): petite stature, slim, violin shape (“good” curvy), plenty of boob, very tender and feminine face.

 

[cocogi]

I think that us Italians very much see an exotic effect in Spain and France (and spanish and french guys have a little bit of an exotic effect in Italy, in my experience with female friends).

And it depends - for me and (especially, I didnt' approach much) in the experience of many people I know, Spain and, though a bit less, France are easy spots and their women are perceived as more open than ours.
In fact a lot of Italians see Spain as a dating playground.

 

[cocogi]

By exotic effect I mean that our cultures are still a bit similar but they still perceive it as something else (I would say the similarity is much less than people think, especially at a societal level: For example Spain is one of the most open countries about lgbt rights while Italy the only western country without gay marriage - still some progressive cities but society is very divided on this topic)

 

[alleniverson]

@alleniverson

I do find Spanish women to be arrogant to be frank. Especially from the north of Spain. Lol.

 

[alleniverson]

I also don't think they're as hot as girls in Latin America, even Argentinians who are pretty white, but I have never been to the South.

 

[POB]

Saw exactly this in Barcelona too (maybe only Catalan girls though, not Castilian): petite stature, slim, violin shape (“good” curvy), plenty of boob, very tender and feminine face.

Also a decent amount of them were on the taller side (like 5'6" and above).
Gorgeous women for sure, and super receptive.

 

[POB]

I also don't think they're as hot as girls in Latin America, even Argentinians who are pretty white, but I have never been to the South.

Argentinians are not my cup of tea tbh...pretty, but too slim for my taste.
Though they are a treat for guys that like that athletic look.

 

[Bismarck]

To the poster complaining about Portuguese and Spanish girls, I would suggest you haven't visited the right places at the right times.

IME Spanish girls are hot and social. Yes, the part about tight social circles is true, and Catholic culture (slut shaming) may play a role (especially in more conservative places like Seville), albeit less than in Portugal as a whole.

I'm with POB you need a strong frame, and you can't pussyfoot.

And yes, just like with Jude Law in Alfie or the guy in Love Actually, there is a status hierarchy of the colonizer and the colonized.

 

[ulrich]

To the poster complaining about Portuguese and Spanish girls, I would suggest you haven't visited the right places at the right times.

Thanks. I agree to a point.

Any time I have met Spanish women in social settings, they are quite fun and charming.

It’s only when a flirting frame is introduced that they act in such a bitchy manner.

That being said, while I have met them in many European countries, I have never been to Spain itselfso the dynamics might be affected by me and them
being foreigners in such interactions.