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Why Evolutionary Psychology is Pseudoscience

Chase

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Howell said:
Yeah, not the intention -- the way things are going there are so many open threads in here and subtleties to delineate I would probably have to quit my job to find the time to address everything ;) And most of it would just be me repeating myself anyway.

-Howell

I figured ;)

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Jensen

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Howell said:
Yeah, not the intention -- the way things are going there are so many open threads in here and subtleties to delineate I would probably have to quit my job to find the time to address everything ;) And most of it would just be me repeating myself anyway.

-Howell

Damn, I'm that lame that I am getting ignored by a dude with an anime avatar. Well, I guess we will see you when #4 of this thread appears on here ;)
 

Howell

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Jensen said:
Howell said:
Yeah, not the intention -- the way things are going there are so many open threads in here and subtleties to delineate I would probably have to quit my job to find the time to address everything ;) And most of it would just be me repeating myself anyway.

-Howell

Damn, I'm that lame that I am getting ignored by a dude with an anime avatar. Well, I guess we will see you when #4 of this thread appears on here ;)

Lol, nothing personal -- just PM me.
 

Drck

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There are lots of questionable conclusion, for example this sentence is nonsense:

"No woman is actually "submissive" by nature - women have to LEARN to be submissive"

How did you even come to this conclusion? If we know something about human history and about anatomy of males and females, we must notice that males are physically stronger and more aggressive. If we look at human history, we know that it is males who lead wars, who conquer other groups of males, who conquer other lands or countries... It's not unusual for men to overcome enemy and take over the women. We don't have to go far to human history, see what happend when Russians came to Berlin at the end of WW2 and hundreds of thousands of German women were raped

Males are simply more physically dominant, they conquer and they take the women... Women usually had not much say as they are physically much weaker, they are or were forced to submission for the past who knows how many millions of years...

But similarly with men, if you are say skinny 5'5" 130 pounds and you meet a guy who is 6'5" 280 pounds of pure muscles and who is threatening you, you probably don't have to "learn" much about submission. Your brain already knows that you'll get your ass spanked even if you've never been in any fight before, it's given by his physical dominance. You can be much smarter and develop effective weapons, but the physical dominance is always there in close contact.

None of us is woman here, I hope, but imagine how does she feel if she is this 5'5" 130 pounds and some guy 6'2" 230 pounds shows an interest in her, chases her.... The physical dominance is simply there, she already knows it, she knows that he can take her (physically) any time he wants, there is really not much to learn...

Now when she becomes the smarter one and more dominant is emotions. She knows that she can manipulate this strong guy with emotions, she can make him fall in love, she can very easily confuse him, she can make an impression that she loves him while keeping him miles away, she can make his ego big by tickling it, or very small by ignoring him. She can even make him fall in deep depressions... So males usually dominate females physically, while females usually dominate makes emotionally...

How do I know? Well, read the comments on GC and see yourself...
 
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Interesting, I have been quite guilty of throwing the "evopsych" arguments around especially since I read Franco Seduction "Manual of Seduction" late last year, most of it is in some way related to women's tests, and if a woman is testing you (i.e. her behaviour makes absolutely no sense except as a test), it is natural to ask what she is testing you for and why, and that is when you get into evopsych. I am normally quite good at qualifying my statements according to whether I know from personal experience (and if so how much) or whether I just read it somewhere (and if so where) or both. But in this case I probably wasn't rigorous enough in doing so -- Chase is correct that it is best to talk about observable and testable phenomena (such as women's tests) and leave it at that.

Howell your level of vocabulary and philosophical background is impressive, I consider myself an intellectual and I read a shit ton, yet I do not know what an ontology is or a lot of the other ideas you mentioned, I recently found out what etiological means because I have been studying the Old Testament in my spare time (I am not religious but I am fascinated by history, language and old stories, I want to learn Biblical Hebrew etc). But the dude who first replied here is right in that it would be better to state things in more simple terms, which is what Chase seems to do before tackling each argument "so in summary you mean XXXX, correct me if I'm wrong; in that case I think YYYY"... anyway, it's a fun debate which I will read more closely when I have time, in meantime I will try to avoid evopsych or clearly label it as speculation if I do invoke it.

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Everyone,

Holy shiat! I miss all the golden nuggets.

IF there's one thing i know in absolutism, there is this thing called the 'negative variable'. People call it yin and yang. This is very real. Given an example, like girls. Erm... once i made absolute that women are crazy, there will be women who are not crazy, and this can be case of me perceiving from a past reference point, or that she is not crazy, or she is just withholding her craziness, or i forgotten i done things that makes women go crazy, and so on.

So yea, i can say it in absolutism. There is this 'negative variable'. I can tell you that Chase and Drck has snap me out of my thought process and i have snap Drck out of his thought process, one on girls being total manipulative, which is an amazing new insight on women once we both work together.

Highly recommend working the two opposites. this is why i love GIrlschase

Zac
 

Rain

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Just wondered, is this here classified as evolutionary psychology or as evolutionary biology or as something else eg social science?
http://rsos.royalsocietypublishing.org/ ... 4/4/160955

I'm asking because this website here says its evolutionary biology
https://www.elitedaily.com/dating/witty ... ot/1864046

I wasn't sure what the definitions are. Chase did use thie first link recently. Happy to be here on the boards just curious if this elitedaily got their definitions of evolutionaty biology right or wrong.
 
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