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Woman giving me the eye, but not making herself available (attainability?)

zappbrannigan

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Okay, here's a weird question for y'all.

At my martial arts class there's this woman who is giving me some super obvious IOIs. She smiles in my direction, makes eye contact several times (and from my peripheral vision I sometimes notice her staring in my direction). When I made an offhand comment that she did a particular exercise correctly, she almost fell over herself thanking me. And today while I was waiting in line for the bathroom she walked past me and said "have a nice evening" in a way that communicates that she's interested, and she flipped her pony tail while doing so with a smile. I mean, if that's not obvious, I don't know what is.

This has been going on for a few weeks and I'm beginning to think this is a bit awkward, so I'm thinking maybe I should ask her out for a drink and attempt to get rid of my V-card with this woman. But, she's always gone really quickly after training. As far as I know, women who like you are supposedly going to make themselves available, but putting themselves in your vicinity and whatnot.

Now, she's a little stodgy and doesn't have great teeth. I would be charitable to classify her as a 6. I am tall, thin (I've been told I am too thin by at least one woman) and have pronounced biceps. I also come across as intelligent to most people (I do indeed have a master's degree). So, could this be an attainability issue? What would be a good way to approach this? I don't want to make too much of an effort, because on one hand I'm not that into her, but I find the idea of having a woman who is really into me kind of hot (and will help me get the experience I crave). On the other hand, I feel that if I do try hard to run after her, I'm chasing too hard which may cause her opinion to flip around and believe I have no value.

Oh yeah, finally: I don't want to make a mistake because this is in my social circle. I don't mind screwing up as much with some random chick I meet on the street, but if I screw up in my social circle it could give me a bad reputation and fuck up future chances with other hot chicks that may join class (there's a nice degree of turnaround, where new people come in about once every two months or so).
 

Fuck This

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Are you an instructor or student in the class?

I'd recommend doing a group social sometime, even if you have to host it or put it on. Show some leadership...

Then when it is going on you have time to talk to her and find out more about her.

If you are a student, talk to your teacher about doing a:

Post class cocktails at a nearby bar and grill
Taco truck social
Potluck at your house
group trip to a semipro baseball/soccer/mma fight game (cheap tickets)
Go to the pool/hottub at your condo


Reasons:
Celebrate the achievement of folks moving up in belts or bars .
Someone in the group's birthday
A discount for bringing the group somewhere.


The idea is to have a social situation where you can talk to her and determine if she is open to a one on one date. It also positions you as a leader in the group, which will help in future opportunities.
 

DarkKnight

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Deliberate less and make a conversation with her where you try to make her invest. This could very well be an attainability issue, try to get her to move with you at the very least to check her interest level.

However YOU are the man and YOU have to make the moves. You are writing that you don't want to make effort because she is not your perfect 10: The world meets no one half way buddy.

Either you make it work or you let it go, but don't expect her to push the conversation forward.

I do understand you though, I had this happen plenty of times as well. Get them engaged in a conversation at the very least where they have to put in the time instead of being flighty.
 

zappbrannigan

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Okay, a small update on this. Today I managed to casually invite her to spar with me. Normally, women spar with women, but the number of women was odd today so that wasn't so strange of a request. I lightly teased her a bit, and she was even a bit shy at some point as she "had to" refer to a part of her anatomy :) While listening to the teacher, she touched me on the arm once or twice (in other words it was completely unnecessary, it could not even remotely be construed as part of the sparring).

After we split up for bigger group practice we greeted each other and she went to touch me as I went to touch her on the arm.

While we were sparring I noticed she had a ring around her finger. I think this explains why she's trying not to make herself available. I loved the validation I get from this (which is something I should not let affect me, I know). Good for self-confidence shall we say. And it's great social proof if other women see her chasing me.

It's a bit annoying though. There's another married woman in the group who also kind of likes me.
 
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DarkKnight

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Touching especially when she is shy about it is obvious sign of interest.
 
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