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Yes, Monogamy Works

Chase

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@metalbird,

So what does this mean? Maybe monogamy works as long as you're the one who "has a hard time settling down?" As long as you're the one with the attachment issues, or the fear of intimacy, or whatever, you have the option of monogamy because the partners you choose are healthy enough to offer it when you aren't?

In every relationship, there is always one partner who wants to be there less than the other, even if just a bit.

Whichever partner that is is the one who dictates the flow of the relationship.

Just in general, it is my opinion that the man should always want the relationship less than the woman. If the last ember of freedom dies in a man's heart, he is no man any woman would want to hold onto.



@Lover,

Something I've been noticing personally is the women's sex drives drying up eventually when I pass the commitment point for exclusivity. And no matter how I pass it or how I have run my current and last relationships, it just seems inevitable. I have a life besides the relationship, but it just seems like it's not enough.

A few questions:

  1. How long do you have sex for when you have it?
  2. How many orgasms do you give your girls?
  3. How hard are those orgasms?
  4. Do you get women telling you the sex was so good, that they can't stop thinking about last night, that they want to do it again, etc.?

If your answers are NOT a.) 45+ minutes, b.) 12+ orgasms, c.) extremely hard orgasms, and d.) yes, girls often talk about how good the sex was, want to do it again, etc., especially during ovulation, then you need to read these articles:




... as well as the one I linked above to Metalbird on resisting romantic taming.

Also pay attention to your fundamentals and make sure you are not "letting yourself go." Pay attention to hers as well and make sure she is also not letting herself go. If she is, you need to get on her to lose weight / dress better / act sexier with you. Make sure you are still being affection in the relationship but not chasing if she resists/rebuffs it. Etc.

There are basically three motivating factors in sex:

  • How good the sex she expects to get is
  • How sexy you are to her as a lover
  • How high her sex drive is

#s 1 and 2 are fully in your control. If the sex is really good and the woman views you as her untamed or barely tamed stallion, she will continue to want sex, generally.

If the sex is great but you are tamed, she will lose interest in sex. If you are untamed but the sex is not great, she will also lose interest in sex, though she will have more interest in mediocre sex with an untamed man than she will with great sex with a tamed man.

OTOH, if your answers are 45+ mins, 12+ orgasms, extremely hard orgasms, and she can't stop thinking about it or wants to do it again, then it isn't a performance or a taming problem, but a drive problem:




The first thing to check is whether she is on hormonal birth control (pills, shots, implants, patches, hormonal IUD, etc.). These dampen women's sex drives and make them hornier for providers than lovers. They also screw up scent-based attraction (testosterone, MHC genes). If you need her to not get pregnant, use a copper IUD:


If she the sex is great, you're clearly the untamed lover, and she's not on hormonal birth control, then you are probably just choosing women with mismatched sex drives to yours. The only thing you can do there is break up with the girl and screen for a more compatible girl next time, or else you either cannot do strict monogamy (e.g., have a mistress or girls you ONS on the side to meet unmet needs) or you will need to practice sexual transmutation / energy redirection if you really want to stay with the girl + keep it monogamous.

(another possibility is the heart-to-heart: "Baby, I'm just not getting it enough, and I am finding my eyes wandering and I think it's only a matter of time before I take another girl. I really want to just be with you but I'm just not getting it enough to satisfy my needs. What do you think we should do?" Then see what she says. But if it is due to performance or taming issues on your end, at best you'll just be able to fix it temporarily. Probably only so many times you can have that talk before she goes, "Fine, just go fuck some other girl! I don't care!" Which... well, you can do with that what you will)

The first suggestion, the "easy way", is possible when I travel alone. But the rest of the time when I have work, girlfriend and other commitments, it will for the most parts be difficult to find time to meet new women.

I'm more interested in the bold part. I can get ahead of myself and show more devotion once I am more certain of a girlfriend, despite feeling I could replace her and meet new woman to date and sleep with. So how do I "play it a little mysterious" and make her feel somewhat uncertain about my commitment to her?

And can it be reverted if she thinks she has me fully committed already?

Read the article on resisting romantic taming I linked earlier (heck, here's the link again). That is about avoiding totally passing the commitment point, into that "fully committed" zone.

Taming is reversible, but you are going to need a good reason for de-taming yourself. The general process is:

  1. Woman meets man.
  2. Woman tames man into relationship.
  3. Woman tames man into commitment.
  4. Man is now fully tamed.
  5. Man does not de-tame unless major crisis / breakup time.

If you start noticeably de-taming yourself, that says to her there is a major crisis and a breakup is drawing nigh.

If I was you, I might want to start with the heart-to-heart about not being satisfied sexually, then work on de-taming any time she is still not sexually satisfying you (meanwhile hitting the brakes on that a bit when she is; don't want to punish good behavior).

Hope this helps!

Chase
 
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