I took off my school uniform, washed my face, and put some protein hair cream( my hair is damaged) to get my hair more curly then it is already and shinny . Feeling confident and i went out
hit the mall an hour later after school finishes. The students swarm that mall ( no surprise) so i came there 1 hour later. Turns out there wasn't as much students as i thought as they pretty much linger on first floor instead of the second.
1 approach warm up approach, 1 instant date
lets skip the warm up approach since thats boring.
tl:dr pulled her over for an instant date at the sitting areas in the mall , deep dive, 1 hour and 40 minutes interaction, phone number pull and set to meet on Sun with out exact location. Couldn't run SOT/ eliction properly as she put her opionion in during the attemp of SOT so which means i didn't use enough context from her to build on the spot. or used eliction steered in the the right direction for an easy SOT
I couldn't implement Eliction or SOT due to inexperienced verbal game and i couldn't project the SOT on the spot smoothly, context was: -hobbies was embroidery, gaming,
-her taking period of breaks from gaming and discover her self,
-future plans
-her family with her aunt being a bad person who scammed people and her family and generally cutting her out of her life,
- Past and present life,
- her being a people pleaser, i dissected her past and her eyes lit up a lot
-red flags and relationships,
- we talked alot for 1 hour and 40 minutes,
- dissected why she was people pleasing,
-her being judged by her friends for being a flirt
-her wanting to change the past because she yelled at her grandpa
- judgmental people
my brain couldn't string an SOT on the spot. I figure its going take some time and creativity on the spot to tie them all together.
It takes a bit of mental gymnastics to get it flowing out naturally, so i would need a lot more experience to handle verbal's
i was walking and walked to my left and glanced at me,
i return the glance and she didn't look down so i thought nothing of it however....the pink hair.... white short dress and purple jumper with a collar t-shirt poking is too hard for me to resist.. she has the petite cute asian girl asthetics down . i turn back and i catch her checking me out as he peered over her shoulder, she notices i caught her glance and she entered a Asian grocery snack store.
she glanced at me constantly while i followed her into the store, i was hesitant to approach even with clear ioi and AI, she nears the exit while peering over her shoulder to look at me as i was in her vicinity, i bailed on an simple opportunity where she was in aisle alone but i couldn't open but that urgency when she was slow walking into the exit lit the desire in me again.
i approach '' hey excuse me you look familiar have i met you?'' i wanted to go direct but my cave man brain said no
to summarize our long interaction was: she had was going home but i passed the objection with '' we'll walk and talk for 10 minutes, it will be fun'' she obligated, had her arms cross.. strange but i changed that after we walked as we talked about simples stuff like hobbies and her plans. one part stuck out to me was ''i get bored easily'' as her hobbies changed a lot, ''im like i would stick to the hobbie for 1-2 months straight and get bored''. Despite that amusement i had i lead her to a couch and sat down and talked.
I was aware her body language showed a bit of distance where she crossed her legs away from me and crossed her arms as we talked. However i i managed to change that as I got more 'playful'( teasing, poking, pushing and push pull ) and talked about the right topics that really struck her. For the first half she had the 'distant body language' but she still responded and fiddled with her clothing( i took that as ioi).
She responded well to topics about her instead of her perspective like . ''are you a baddie'', ''it seems to me that ur only focus on ur goals beside your pleasures'', she even told me that '' i actually never thought about that''. I guess thats evident i struck the right topic and she started to cross her legs facing towards me and become much more hooked and comfortable
She was like ''wait, *having a index near mouth with shh motion* let me tell you a story'' mutiple times during our interaction. To get her more body language ''more intrested in me'' took a while to hit the right convo. I couldn't get an SOT done as she objected to my world which means im force framing and im not using the context properly. It was my first time trying to do SOT correctly so i guess that happens when ur inexperienced.
left on a time constraint and agreed to meet on Sun without exact locations, Responded to ice breaker with a emotional anchor from our interaction
my sexual frame is not done properly so i don't expect this would be a keeper.
time really flies huh i wasn't expecting to be 2 weeks already
excuse my inactivity due to me procrastinating on when to actually write up my outings( routinely Saturdays & Sundays i go out) and these are my only free time i get to cold approach consistency. I go cold approach mainly in the city now, I roughly get there around 2pm and arrive home around 7pm. leaving me with around 4:30 hours to approach. Beside the point is i don't get enough time to really update my outings all that much due to school life and routine schedules.
My Outing
My approaches have been thin and through from my last 4 outings( 2 weeks worth) , I had emotional highs and lows during my last week approach.
The lowest was when i had a girl absolutely bailed on me last sunday . She was free for 15 minutes , showed ioi and bailed on me when she got uncomfortable( i know what i did wrong ) and said ''Hey im gonna quickly grab a fresh juice, cya!''. It was actually frustrating how i messed up so bad at that time and got a bailed on, i felt like i just got rejected lol
live reaction during the time : (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
but i managed to get 2 pretty good highs in the same day ( last sunday outing) (づ￣ ³￣)づ
The highs were leading a smoking hot ,Thailand chick, tourist , matching gray leggings and sports bra, with the same exact colorway jersey jacket,( navy blue and red and white collars) 5 foot 7, lifts and her physique was just.. juicy( thicc gym chick physique) and the mind blowing in fact she was 34 years old. She definitely looks after her self as she loves to be active, diamond facial structure with a wide cheek bone like descripting her facial structure would be like a shield( that doesn't sound so cute i know lmao now) and her long black hairs glisten over her head forming waves.. red nails and both of her thums had a red shaped stone on them.
I calibratedly joined her on the tram as we were talking at the tram stop and she was hooked pretty fast, judging by her sitting posture on the tram( both legs facing towards me)
we got off at my stop who happen to be going at the same place but to a nearby park who she would meeting her friend. So i continued on to talk with her to try and create a better emotional anchor for texting.
She was very giggly and i could tell she enjoyed the conversation and i felt the sexual tension( beside down there) in the air from her side just by interacting with her , i tried sexual framing with something like something about cultures flirting..
Me: ''hey its interesting how different cultures flirt, like Cambodians who would flirt by using strong eye contact'' ( complete bs)
but that got derailed quick because that was not true, i don't know anything about how Cambodians flirt but it was interesting how she said that indians are the one who use strong eye contacts to flirt, is that true? Then i ask her to give me an example, she makes an 'seductive' face by smiling aggressively( like really raising your cheeks from your mouth to the point its tensing and making your lips bend like a U ) which was quite funny
Me: ''oh what are you doing to me''
Her friend didn't show up at the park, i thought it would be a good time to go and ended on a time constraint, . i opened my arms and she came over for a hug as i told her to and i tried to give a quick peck on the cheek as she went wrapped her hands around me but she bailed out and gave me a real seductive look ( soft smiling and intense eye contact ) as i said ''too soon'' i didn't hold her gaze completely so i think i failed that shit test.
we bid fare well and she didn't respond to ice breaker.. should of tried calling but i didn't o(╥﹏╥)o
I got too excited perhaps but the buddy down couldn't resist it self but shit that was a good experience on how your outings could switch up on the same day..
Honestly if i had sexual framing down to the nail i would manage to actually pull it off.. ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ
second high was my confidence with tram girls is ironed into me. I really find my self having AA when i approach girls who are waiting for tram girls because this feeling of time constraint but its just all in your head realistically its in your head. i was surprised on how well she was responding and she didn't seem to mind missing the tram though to be granted she was already late to meeting her friends by a hour or two and it literally comes every 3-5 minutes.
She had crimson bright hair, bowl cut fashion, 5'6 short but attractive hour glass figure( not as attractive as that Thailand chick but respectable) , gray crop top and black shorts to reveal them thick thighs i would reckon 28-30 inches juciy ness . She was Asian and lifts as a hobby. She was tired at the time and told me she just got off work as a life guard and decided to meet friends even she didn't want to go rock climbing
did quick cold reading per usual and 5 minutes deep in the convo we naturally exchanged phone numbers, when I ended her topic at the right timing before she goes on to add more
''haha thats funny, you know what you sound like a fun person we should hang out sometime''
She agrees enthuastically and continue to the conversation, 5 trams go by? and we decided to actually get on lol
hopped on the train, did my verbal game, pretty good she was laughing and engaged most of the time and got dozed off near the end as she was tired, both of us got off and i went the opposite way to smoothly dis-engage without waking the same path to say bye bye lol. i went left and she went right, right before i went on my way as i was looking at her for her to go she came over with opened her arms with a smile for a hug which surprised me for a second to bid fare well.
Turns out we were walking the same way, no problem and continued our conversation and reached her destination and we bid farewell as her friends were already the rock climbing venue
she responded to my ice breaker in a unexpected answer:
Hey Nicko soz for late replay just got home, it was lovely meeting you today but on second thoughts I'm not ready to get myself out there but I hope you find what ur looking for!
huh, this the second time now... i actually can't quite figure out why girls would switch around like that. She enjoyed her self it seems and was responding well in person and she gave me a hug with out me asking her to ugh! why you must switch up like this ヾ(￣□￣ﾉ
.If you can help me answer this i would greatly appreciated it !!
Reflection
These 2 weeks i have learned how to manage picking up girls who are waiting at tram stops celibately and lead girls who need are going somewhere at the tram stops, there actually quite fun instead of walking everywhere, checking every crack in the hole for lone wolfs once in a while
It really clicked in my head on the last Saturday outing when i was approaching this girl who was by her self smoking on a bench outside of this mall in the city, the conversation was quite dull and i tried sexual framing with a random scenario i came up in my head. the scenario went on like this girl was getting judged by a few girls by the way she dress( sexually), This moment was where my brain just had this light bulb moment
' Click Click' was the exact feeling inside my head
Then i ultimately failed lmao, getting derailed on the topic and she responded like ''well i wouldn't care, people can judge other people i wouldn't care too much'' maybe to be granted she did have a good sense of self esteem and was in her 30's and is in the i don't care about other people judgements phase
it reminded me of creating sexual context for sexual framing to exist..
The gambit is incomplete and full of holes but the general premise went at the time was a girl was being judged by a few guys on the tram/train for wearing revealing clothes,
My previous goal was SOT but deep down i kow i can't manage the frame that well or even have the foundation for it . I have been researching on and off( procrastination to be honest and school work) how to pull off sexual framing during day game, resulting into running into Alek's 8 orgasm gambit time and time again. i got intrigued so i decided i might as well try it and learn from it.
ill start implementing sexual framing gambits for day game and leave SOT for another time as im only a novice and yet to correctly do sexual framing consciously( it reminded me of that i could have executed sexual framing sub-consciously like. my instant date with girl who had a bf or the SDL i hesitated to go home with her )
I noticed the amount of sets i do in 4:30 hours was around 8-10 approaches with screening out a lot of girls who are not stationary is terrible and not going to help if im not learning to implement sexual framing because i have less opportunity to learn so in that case im just approaching anything that moves hahah
ill be reporting back soon with my new experience with sex gambits during the day
I didn't had the time to really write up my approaches because of tests , SACS and essays alike. Now im free because school holiday has started and it grants me 2 weeks of almost free time
(why does holiday homework exist!? ヾ(￣□￣; ) ﾉ )
to simply myself dedicate to seduction. I start on April 19th which from now is 18 days to dedicate my self to seduction on a daily bases. Now I can finally record my outings! hooray!
Here is really quick Reflection of the 3 weeks( 6 outings)
-I picked up a interesting pattern of facial expressions from girls when i deliver my reality pacing and gambits is that their eyes becomes much more wider and locked in with mine and they fold their lips inwards nervously while attraction increases. They seem to become much more hooked . its not something really significant and it was just something I kept seeing. Though i'll use this as a facial reference from girls that i am really hooking them in and i can transition into sexual frame much easier. It is almost similar to the 'eye fucking' where she just stares into you which i assume is she is aroused.
-i made 3 real attempts at implementing the gambits I i have chosen to use for sexual framing and get a hang of Sex Talk
Alek's 8 orgasm gambit and 'The Mirror gambit'. To be honest i have not completed to deliver the routine properly once yet.. so i need to really memories them.
-im getting AA every time i go out, like for say this girl is at PT and i get all hesitant then times run of time and she leaves on to the PT. Usually i do end up approaching a girl and my totals worth of approaches for 4 hours is still 8-10 which is not up to my personal standards. I frankly feel its because the lack of will power that is preventing me to approach and it could be attributed to my lack of discipline lately. Reflected on sleeping schedule and skipping working out routines. That is something i have to get on top of
-I haven't opened a set with RPO once, i have been reading alot of people journals utilizing RPO like: Skippy, Devilicous, Lofty just to name a few. Im going to use RPO for the most part of my openers, after all using the same one is pretty boring lol. The latest one i came up with on the spot was
''Do you believe love at first site? [she answer yes /no], just kidding i thought you were kinda cute so i said hi!''
-For older girls around 29-40 I need deliver a non judgmental frame as i have a few objections on that im being too young. I could simply just tell them a age that is around them but anywhere above 30 is not going to be convincing.
Ur silly on about being too young for u my ex was 25, girl before that was 21 but I I don’t like people who judge people on age and assume random shit about them. Get to know someone first. Then see if there is a vibe or not But if that’s now how u be then that’s cool too
-I went out on a date last week and im going to meet her again near my place to pull. Will write up on that later as im heading out to warm up and meet her at 2:30pm
These was all the major details for now. will catch up soon! (づ￣ ³￣)づ
We were set to meet at a station near my place at 2:30pm, we intended to go the library together and this was our second date
The week before that we had a short date in the city roughly lasting 2 hours. We first met up in the central of the city and bounced to a nearby Starbucks then we went to a nearby park by tram
We chatted in Starbucks with basic social questions stuff like that and i remember not long after entering she asked me
''are you going on another date later?'' with a coy smile , referring to me why we having a short date
I disqualified my self jokingly said ''of course not im just meeting a friend'' to avoid any attainability issues later on
I kept an open loop on what i found interesting on mirrors, prepping The Mirror Gambit for later use
and she kept trying to persuade me to tell her after she missed the part where i said ''Do you know what's interesting about mirrors''
I didn't try to escalate too much when we were in the public eyes but there were many 'incidental' touching from her end and by the time we got the tram she was fairly comfortable with me resting my arm on her shoulder as she rest her head on to my arm. I do recall her trying to hold my hand when we got off the tram.
We sat by a near by bench in the park under a dome and we talked more as she snuggled into my arm. I tried the Mirror gambit to amp on the sexual tension but halfway through i completely went blank from seeing 2 girls doing tik-tok right beside the dome in my peripheral vision .. she giggled and asked me ''who else should am i suppose to see?'' I laughed and went off into another sexual topic
I honestly got a bit nervous because there were people dancing for Tik-Tok less then a meter away and the i didn't want the camera to have both of us in some cringey tik tok video.
I attempted framing sex is a crucial part of relationships and a normal thing , ''Sex is a very important part of relationships, its where we come to the point where we lower our guards and enjoy each other for who they are, it is part of our identity''
She agreed however she opposed that you don't have to always have sex in the relationships.. which i didn't know how to properly respond to that. I asked her if she has tried FWB then she told me she has never been in one nor does she want to be in one.
Huh, i thought to my self. If my memory is not clouded she asked me if i have before. I told her i did( fake till you make it lol) and she seemed curious on my previous relationships.
She asked me if I had to go as it was 4pm already and i told her my 'friend' could wait a little bit longer.
She wanted me to spoil her as she got very touchy/ cutsy with me. poking my neck my arm and trying to tickle me. She got 'cross' with me and crossed her aim as if she was having a temper tantrum when i refused to tell her when i baited her every time ''do you want to know?''
I pulled her back in and We got off topic on somehow onto to chocolate and she got closer to my face every time.
i manhandled her a kiss and didn't let her kiss me and she toppled over onto my leg with a big sigh.
we got off the bench and she questioned her self, you know so much about me and i know nearly nothing about you and i promised her ill let her know more about me the next time we meet.
She told me out of nowhere while we walking towards the tram.
''your good with girls'' ( You haven't seen the rest of us trust me, my date ratio is sadly 1:50)
i asked her why
''i don't know, for some reason im just really comfortable with you when i talk to you''
she is flattering isn't she
she got off at her stop and we bid each other farewell
She was already invested as she came from a 2 hour train ride to meet me, I knew I had this in the bag, prior 2 hours Lofty and Fog has gave me words of encouragement in the chat. I was thrilled and it could be my first Lay
Plausible deniability: making chai tea at my place
She was wearing a white dress with red embroideries, 5'5 , Nepal and 20. She wore club master glasses and a rather oval facial structure. Grew up in a conservative back ground in Nepal where boys and girls relationships were abolished and she was Virgin( which i later forgot ).
I was wearing my happy go lucky navy blue jersey jacket, black cargo pants and a black small roses print top. I tied the back of my hair into a small pony tail with a blue rubber band, Im planning to grow my hair out
I had called at 12:15pm~ to check receptiveness and it was good, made her giggle and told her to call me when she reached the city.
I went off to the local mall to warm up and i forgot it was an Easter holiday so there would be no shops open, silly me then i decided to reach the date site first. She called while i was on the bus towards the station to go down to the date site.
We met around 2:15pm, a bit early then expected. We walked towards the library and caught up, she had a family get together and she ditched it to 'work'.
we got to the library and we scouted the area then we decided to sit on a bench under some trees.
Emotional stimulation
and we talked further more, she wanted to know more about me so I simultaneously used relationships as form of sex talk and growing up for social frame. So i mixed them together in the perspective of maturing and discovering sexuality from the girls i been with while growing up.
I gave her a bit of insight in my actual childhood where I kinda hung around girls and found guy friends less interesting but they were more physical and fun, i was shy and wasn't calibrated around girls and this was the suburb i grew up in and attended the high school near by it.
i told her a story of how i lost my V(fake till you make it) where it was at a house party. A girl liked and she liked me and we had sex.. I discovered girls sexuality at that time and point, it made me realize why girls hide their sexuality around certain people out of fear from being called out for it and girls rarely have the opportunity to express it out.
She was nodding, maybe the effect wasn't as strong as i hoped for. i couldn't gauge how strong of the response i got
i told her another story of how i had this FWB with this girl and how it broke down because of social circles, and it would have been better why it was someone outside the social circle slowly nudging her why i should hook up with this guy and have a FWB with him because their is no one to interfere.
I didn't get the response i hoped, she asked me if was a relationship. which i told no but she said she could sorta could understand it.
Then it was her turn and she told me about her relationships, telling me how in Nepal where guys and girls were forbidden to have relationships and there was a guy he liked and they were in a relationships for a short period of time then the teachers found out.
I can't remember the second one but the third one was online, she wanted to meet him but he blocked her because they turned out to be relatives. They met through mutual friends at a party of sort.
The pull
Her story came to a climax and I suggested we head to my place for some chai tea, She enthusiastically agrees and we got up and i was going to call an uber but she wanted to walk. We started walking but before we crossed the lights i thought about it, it was going to be atleast 30 minutes so it wasn't worth risking breaking the bubble we build through all that
we walked to the side of the footpath leaving the pedestrian lights and i told her that I changed my mind and i was going to call an uber. before i finished talking she took my hand and dragged me across the street where there was a Tesla heading down the road while we crossed lol.
I actually covered my face with embarrassment as she dragged me across the road, I told her that I changed my mind and she was apologetic and a bit flustered.
We crossed the road back to the library and sat down under a nice oak tree with a bench under there and waiting for an uber. She wanted to play with my hair and first i denied it until she said 'pretty please' 3 times then i did. She told me the story of how when she was little 7 or 8 she braided her uncles hair and he was annoyed by it.
i said to her if I was him i would be rather pleasantly surprised
The uber arrived and we went to my place.
My place
I opened the door and warned her that i have a small mixed Pomeranian dog and if she was afraid of dogs, turns out she loves dog so that was ok, I worried if she was allergic and that would have been troublesome lol
Told her to take her shoes off and she started petting the dog, I went to look for some tea in the cabinets but i couldn't find anyway. I eventually found a bag of some sort of coffee in Indonesian( im half indonesian lol) and i can't tell whats the exact ingredients but anyhow i took her upstairs with 2 cups and we started making coffee.
Told her to wash her hands before touching anything because thats just plain dirty if you don't wash your hands after petting the dog lol
I told her to make her own set of coffee but she insisted i do it because it was a pinky promise over text, i as amused and refused and until she said pretty please.
She said it and started making the coffee for the both of us.
Physical Escalation
This one was a bit goofy at first and was kind of funny because i couldn't take it so seriously. i wasn't smooth but it was 'innocnet'' i guess that was a way to put it.
I forgot to to get something to stir the coffee with so i dragged her down stairs with me to find something, i ended getting 2 chopsticks instead of a spoon to stir it and we climbed back the stairs for the coffee.
We stirred it and i realized it was too hot to drink. I extended my hand out with the intention to pull her in to my body but I
don't know how she got confused with what i said and she interpreted it to dancing. It was amusing since i just couldn't help with the tension but to laugh when we started to 'dance' tradtitonal holding her hands up with my right and extending my hand with hers to the left.
We stopped after a few seconds and she tried her coffee again, she said it was too bitter and wanted sugar.
I figured both of us should find it and dragged her down again for the last time to find sugar. i told her to intentionally check the top cabinets above the stove and i checked the small food racks behind her.
I wrapped both of my hands around her waist from the back and pressed my body onto her back and gently hovered my neck on her left shoulder and softly spoke
''could you find any sugar?''
she softy responded 'nooo'' and leaned her heads towards me
not yet i said to myself and manhandled her again.
she smiled and i took her upstairs to drink the coffee.
we tried again to see how hot was the coffee and it wasn't drinkable, i walked her over to a nearby couch and told her to sit on my lap and she did.
She complained it was uncomfortable for her so i decided to just lead her to my room while bringing our cups with us.
The room had a couch facing towards the bed and a arm chair in the corner of the room right beside the couch. The arm chair was near a window and beside the window was the door for the toilets.
we started escalating until we found a comfortable positon, we went from the armchair to the couch, i layed my back on to the couch facing towards the ceiling and motioned her over to crawl over from the arm chair. She did and we started kissing.
objection
She objected saying ''if you want to continue further we have to be in a relationship''. I went blank and i wasn't sure how should i respond at the time we made out again and she stopped. She said she was tired and laid her body onto me and i suggested we should just sleep.
She hopped in bed cuddling the blankets first and i took off my top because it was simply too hot even with the AC on
I couldn't quite remember in what chronological order talked because it was 3 hours worth of just in the bed talking/ laying there quietly trying to sleep while she was staring at me
she first said to me that I look disappointed( which i honestly was lol) and i told her
''oh really? it must be a mood swing, giving a half laugh at the end'' ( honestly i was kinda disappointed lol and im sure she knows why)
i promised her that i won't do anything she wasn't uncomfortable and we talked further more.
2 things was going through my head. Damage control and how was I going to get this lay.. I was thinking maybe i could increase the sexual tensions with Alek's 8 orgasm gambit and build more comfort then escalate again
we cuddled and i decided to try and take a nap to rest up while thinking how to escalate again, i opened my eyes a little and all i see was her staring into my eyes.. i pulled her head onto my should because that shit is just weird lol
I got up again to check on the dog as an excuse to grab the phone and look at other solutions to this scenario, i notice my door wasn't closed and she could hear me rambling to my self on ''checking on the dog''. I let the dog out
Re-escalation
coming back up to the room and she was all quiet and i rested in the bed beside her, after 10 minutes or so i went down to close the door and come back up and realized she has fell asleep . I laid quietly on the couch to think of something but i was too fatigued to really come up with any idea at that point. I got back it into bed and decided to take a nap.
She turned over after a few minutes to find me beside to her and she gently laid the blanket over me. I had 1 eye opened and it she was her body was facing towards me. I open both because the sun peering through the window even with the curtains on it was too distracting, finding her smiling and staring at me...
we talked further more and i decided to give her an answer ''Im looking for something casual so im not going to expect anything for you''
she had a bit of sad look on her face as she got up '' thats ok we could be just friends''
me: ''you can leave if you want to''
her: 'do you want me to leave?''
me: ''its your choice, im not forcing you too''
she laid back down again onto the pillow and asked if she could play with my hair
i couldn't care less at that point so i agreed and close my eyes again
i told her again what i meant by making her by not making her uncomfortable was to that i meant
''i want her to feel desired to, not told to but on her own choice she has decided to do it with out anyone telling her to, its her choice, her wishes'' of something along the line
Over time i realized she has gotten closer and i notice her biting her lips while i looked at her.
we continued to talk about relationships and she wanted to find a 'middle ground with us' where both of us can get what we wanted as she escalated on me by pulling my head closer towards her face. I didn't make out with her and i pulled my head a bit back a few more times as she tried to pull me in.
It honestly got me mentally fatigued with this middle ground thing because she wants a relationship and i want something casual. She wants me to stay in a committed relationship with her after sleeping with her when i want something casual .
I remember asking why she wanted it in a relationship it was because it was her first time and she was afraid of getting another heart break and i questioned if she was the only virgin of her friends group, to my surprise all her friends are virgins.
We continued talking and she asked me about my previous relationships, claiming she wants to know 'everything' about me. i refused to tell her and she would poke me and what not to get me to give in.
i kept saying she was trying to seduce me by doing all this, she exclaimed that she isn't. subtle chase framing here and ironically she is trying to seduce me by escalating one me
1 hour has passed and it was 7pm
she kept escalating on me for a kiss and because this was the 'middle ground' between kissing and cuddling and i responded back to her escalation getting on top of her in missionary position taking her dress off and bra off. She brought up the relationships again and if i take her shorts off further i would have to be in relationship with her.
She admitted that she didn't want to leave the house because she wants me, for her self as well. She wasn't willing to settle down for the FWB frame i tried so hard to set but it seemed she was ready for the frame as she kept escalating on me.
I suggested one night stand and she agreed but gave me that look with puppies eyes and said ''does it have to end this way?''
I decided to stop.. escalating completely, something didn't sit right in me like taking her V then ill be stuck in a relationship didn't feel ok to me and she it seemed to me at the time she didn't accept FWB because she eventually would want me to be her bf it was stressing me even she noted that and was apologetic about it.
I called it a day as i was still hesitant about this whole situation
Heading home
we got water and it was getting late for both of us, we left the house and caught our selves and uber to the station.
got onto the train station and bid my self farewell to her in a rather distant tone, her eyes was tearing up:
'we're not going to meet again aren't we?''
she made me promise to message her when i get back and i said ill decide if we meet again, ill make the call
Post date
I shoot her a msg after i got home and showered to think about the situation. I honestly felt guilty about the whole situation and i didn't know what do with it. I asked general forums for some help and i received them,
I plan to meet her again soon and get this lay and they said she should be willing to accept the FWB frame regardless of her this being her first time
im wondering if i do get into a relationship with this girl.. how am i suppose to keep this congruent because she would eventually know more about me.. do i keep making more fairytales to fill in the gaps lol?
Im turning over for a new leaf.. Direct openers(200 approaches by now) have served me well last summer , but not well enough at this skill level of mine and I can't utilize it to its fullest potential at this point. I'm hitting the end of the road, its time to go hitch hiking into to unknown territory and exit my comfort zone for expediential growth....
I'm going to use RPO's and Gun Witches openers more often and from now on ill try to limit the amount of directs.
Its a new slate and im going back to the basics for the sake of increasing hook ratio and my date conversation rate of 1:50 ( y i k e s )
I had went out for the few days of attempting complicated RPOs that i made up and I had mild success due to AA
I came up with this one, however AA is the priority and complicating the opener just makes it worse
Opener: '' hey excuse me you give me a very familiar feeling.. you somehow remind me of her( intrigue)...have we met before? ''
RPO: ''no? on thats strange, the city is special isnt it.. when you walk around the city.. you notice people who are someone you never met before..yet you get this sense of familiarity .. because they slightly resemble them''
Not exactly 1 to 1 as how i said it but the idea was that: that strangers give her a familiar feeling like friends ship/ lover/ boy friend would lower her guard and allow me for an easier hook. If she bites on 'you remind me of her' I can use that for open loops or something.
I can't say its effective because my sample size is only 4 and i have got mixed results and not only that my performance is a big factor. 2 were very open and asking me questions about my self ( baseline attraction was present) and and 2 gave me uninterested response.
For me Just converting from a different opener really brought out my demons again and if I manage to get an approach done its rather sloppy or I just don't approach at all, Im more congruent when i go direct because it felt so natural to me and I hope i become more smooth again when I do my RPO's
Im going to acknowledge my demons when it comes to Tram sets or PT sets, im not biting like i used to.
on a positive perspective, the fact im getting AA is a sign of that im really pushing my comfort zone again which is great.
Delicious has gave me a simple reality pace open to work with and I can hopefully conquer it by Tomorrow
opener : ''Hey have you noticed... when its sunny outside.. you just suddenly become open and adventurous?"
Approach Goals
Im going to make a big effort on making the way I approach seems its her that she saw me first and it becomes much more calibrated.
Approach number: 5
i made it low so it doesn't stress me out when im out in the field but 5 is the minimum
Weather: Sunny 25~ degrees Celsius, fairly warm and a few nice breezes along the way
Clothing of choice: my all navy blue Jersey Jacket, black turtle neck and black cargo with beat up white sneakers lol
Today was an excellent outing with me gaining intriguing experiences with trying new openers as well I Had a quick date(1 hour time frame) unfortunately she was reluctant to stay with me for longer because of her objections of going home early due to being a pushover to her parents. That is something ill have to write about in detail further down the journal as I could have completely broke her frame of needing to go home early and not spend more time with me.
I need some advice with the date (listed down below my sets): Breaking her frame of needing to go home and how to physically escalate
Regardless,
I did More than 5 sets pushing my demons away and into the void it belongs utilizing Guns openers and reality pacing. a few directs for peculiar situations of relieving immediate AA
A easy way of killing AA quickly I found was just go direct/ complimenting on her outfit of choice, gaining massive social momentum if she responds well, ill eventually the opener from direct to one of Gun's lines. If not one more time
I have been receiving very warm responses with bassline attraction already present with ''Hey I just noticed....You really remind me of someone?'' (with a smile) then go into bantering she will get mad and then i deliver ''you actually really remind me of my ex... but there's a different vibe about you '
I'll recall the best highlights as I can better remember the details
First set:
I walk up the sloped ramp at the train station and turning to my left I catch her dramatically flicking her hair while turning her body to face away from me.
I first go the Miki machine to put a few dollar coins to top up my card . I walked in front of her she was waiting while scrolling through her phone, I posed in front of her just slightly off angle in front of her while looking at the terminal.. contemplating if I should approach with the limited time I was given, 2 minutes before the train arrive I thought.. I really considered not approaching at first but she kept charming me with multiple glances so I had to open
a petite Asian girl around 5'6 , wearing a pink checker boarded skirt paired with a cream sweater, round glasses frame wearing a white face mask, her outfit radiates a feminine energy
I was already close and I made sure she looked at me one more time before I approach to seem that she is chasing me,
I slowly took a few steps closer, I visualize she would respond fairly warmly as I smile to the image of her smiling back from my approach...
I smile ''hey excuse me... does this train go to xyz... *she responds frantically*.. and I noticed you... have a unique sense of style... * her eyes lit up and smiles* whats your name?''
She seemed hooked after we exchange a few lines and the train arrives, i ask if she want to continue to talk on the train. She enthusiastically agrees, I directed where to sit and we continued talking on the train.
I cold read her simple things on what she studies and I assumed she was more of party animal based on the way she dressed, Re-sighting the conversation is a bit tough so I'll gloss over them due the fact its already 3 days ago.
We flowed from what we both study, her hobbies being the creative type...qualifying her and reality pacing her ... directing that she is more of party type girl due to her general appearance...asking small investments like seeing her accesories..to drinking and her experiences lol.. going into star signs... guessing each other birthdays...to where she is heading and she happens to be getting off at the same station.. to where we would want to travel.. she stayed in japan as exchange student... her thoughts.. opinions.. and cultures surrounding japan while she was there
Giving her playful touches along the way: patting her or pushing her away or poking, non-sexual touches i guess you would say
One peculiar note was that she wasn't having her legs crossed towards me but her torso was more leaning towards me.. she said she like to guess and I played a game with her guessing my birthday.. or some simple topic that allows the person to guess.. she crossed her legs towards me when I allowed her to guess..
Our train is slowing down to stop at the station .. we both get up .. I playfully push her away saying.. ''You would make a terrible partner in crime due to no body takes you seriously like when we were to rob the bank and when your at the counter the desk lady would ask if she is lost''..
hinting her height and her childish like personality.. She gives a ''what!!'' in a higher pitch voice.. ''thats true they don't take me seriously even my friends'' she giggles. I tease her is it because of her height and no-surprisingly she said yes, I questioned do they bully her.. i loled when she said 'no i bully them''
There was 2 escalators on of the left and the right,
''im going this way and you?''
Her: ''I don't know where to go, I have never been here'' her tonality was different and her looks told me she wanted to stay a bit longer it seemed
I took the hint ''you can't be, you never been to xyz'
Her: ''nooooo''
We continued talking along the way where she was meeting her friend and I teased her if she was having a date while we were going up the second escalator passed the terminal station area.
I asked if she wanted to meet again and she enthusiastically agreed to meet, we exchanged numbers and she accidentally put my name 'Nicko wewe' from auto correct, we laughed and we walked towards another escalator( I know there's a lot lol ) and turns out her logistics were 40 minutes away from me by bus and she agreed to meet on Monday at a station ( 5 days from then if i don't screw up my texting)
we bid Farwell and teased her on the date one last time to hear her chuckle
''its not a date!''
She is busy on Saturday and Sunday she is going on a road trip, however Monday she is free.. its a 5 days apart, Its all up to text game now
Thoughts+ post approach texts :It was a great approach but I could have used a reality pace opener on her which I didn't really thought of at the time.. Next time ill remember to use reality pace openers for PT sets.
She didn't respond to cold approach text msg but I called the day after.. she didn't pick up but she responded which gave me a sigh of relief..
Wednesday
me: Hey lil drunk girl, tell me how does ur date goes -Nicko wewe 12:12pm
(no response a day later)
I called on Thursday 11:42am then she didn't pick up
Her :Hai xD just saw that u called me what's up? 12:01pm Thursday
Her: I'm out at the moment having lunch 12:01pm
Her: and yesterday wasn't a date lmao!! 12:01pm
*she doubled the text again*
Me: [her name]... are you a robot? 12:27pm
her: ahahha why u say that? 12:46 pm
her: also sorry my msgs weren't sending and they're all out f order >< 12:46pm
me: dw i know u missed me u out drinking again tdy? 7:14pm
her: hah why u ask i'm a robot xD 10:44pm
her: an nooooo I was studying all day finally stopped i'm literally half asleep lol 10:45pm
her: what u up to today? 10:45pm
Friday
me: u were spamming me xP, u sure u didn't just procrastinate haha? enjoyed the sun with bbt 11:44 am
( no response) Saturday
(Send her a Ryan gosling meme, no response..)
I should of soft closed on her studying to ensure the likelihood of her coming on for a date on Monday, she didn't respond after that, im going to send a gif of sort to see if she responds.. and if she doesn't well NEXT.
Set ?:
An asian girl was wearing a green hoodie with mixed accents of blue and black, black jeans and wearing glasses( too many glasses girls). She waslking by my side and we stopped at the traffic lights.
i tapped her on the shoulder and didn't lock her eyes first and looked to the side until she locked onto my eyes. A split second i returned my eyes to lock onto her here's to give her the idea she is chasing me
''Have you noticed... that when's the sun is out.. you feel much more open and adventurous?" i smile
She enthusiastically agrees and smiles back and we begin to introduce our selves as the lights turn green for us to walk not briefly
Me: im turning this way what about you
her: ohh im going to xyz next to the stairs
Me: oh well have a good day
her: you too!
Thoughts:
I have just stood there so I could hook her in more, I think i noticed the green lights first and instinctly looked at it and began to walk then she followed suit. There was a bench right there too which could have been used to locked her in.
The first taste of reality pacing a girl was great!
Set ?:
As I walked around for sets i notice an Asian girl roughly around my age was just eating her good old fried chicken alone with a empty stood in front of her while she was leaning on the couch seat showing very minimal bassline attraction . I thought it would be good practice to approach them for muscle memory to kill of future AA's. It was like a test of courage I guess.
I opened direct
''Hey excuse me... i know your eating but i couldn't help... to say your kind of cute so i had to say hi'' I smile
She surprisingly responded warmly with that approach
I locked in instantly to sit on the stool and began to exchange names.
I cold read her and we began to talk.. I asked what she studied and what were her hobbies.. She did say she is socially awkward but we had a good vibe going so she was fairly comfortable with me and i engaged her. She honestly didn't have much to say or opinions when i asked her simple conversational topics .
Somewhere along the line i picked up that she actually younger than me, she was 14
''oh i actually don't like school you know?''
and i teased her for being a drop out lol.
She kept saying 'idk' as i just smile and say 'come on you must have a better answer than that!''.
It became a trademark for her to keep saying idk while giggling because i can't recount how many times she had said that to my topics, on her hand the vibe was good from her end.
I sat next to after she moved over when she complied, i teased her when she said
' i dress differently around different people' she showed me a picture of her 2 different outfits. People have called her an ABG and I did felt the vibe with a photo of her next to a guy with a bum bag. We exchanged numbers after she said 'idk' to wanting to meet again.
I let her put her number through my phone and I swore she checked my dms on Messages.. as i remember there was a message on my notification center has disappeared which intentionally left it there. I realized i had gmail notfications for SkilledSeducer and that mail notfication was there and i think she saw that and went 'wtf is this' lol
Thoughts:
It was good practice for girls who are eating and she responded to my ice breaker, A day later i get called by some dude threating me to slap the shit out of me in public... the fuck lmao? This was the second time it occurred and I think I see a correlation to this happening with my previous girls where i got there number while they were enthuastic about me and suddenly went cold feet. Its because they told other people and they get blamed for this.
I'll think i have to set secret society frames.. but first i need to know how to do that first lol
lessons learned ABG's are risky business lol.
Date: unexpected
The date was originally 3:30pm, however it was pushed back to 4:00pm.
It was a number I picked up from a PT set, she was waiting for a train a week ago. I opened direct but long story short I somehow managed to pull her out for a date. I preferred to meet on Friday but her logistics didn't work and she said she was available in the city today however she was hanging out with her girl friend at 11pm
My intentions was pulling this Lay to my place or just go for public pull.
She was free at 3pm and she could meet me with her friend but fuck that lol and objected that her friend would get jealous and preferred to meet to lone. She agreed to my request
She's Asian shy/inexperienced girl, 5'5, lowkey thick because she's short and overall innocent cute.
We met at 4:10pm in the center, with her friend( lowkey was hotter than her) and she left us alone.
Now the problem I encountered that she had to go at 5pm... less than 1 hour do pull something off..
It was intended to be a coffee date but that wouldn't work I thought, and i had to make a good impact for second date retention, I was nervous and I could feel the pressure rising.
we met and we started walking and I was trying to cook up a plan, We made quick small talk. She joked I was a player for not remembering her name at first and I pick up girls( shes good lol), I questioned her why she thought that way she said 'idk' lol.
I decided we would go the park and take the tram.. plus she haven't really been to a park before
I actually didn't know what to talk about when we got on the tram.. i was nervous and I was sweating lol.
I was asking the same shit I asked on text and she gave me the answer ''We already talked about that!''
ME: Ah fuck i never been this nervous before and she just looked at me awkwardly with pauses of silence in between but attraction was still there.
She wasn't talkative which didn't make it help me too much i suppose she is the shy/cutesy serotype , I stalled the convo with going to passions and dreams with our choice of studies.
Saying that I find finance and business interesting in the aspect of the interactions you need to make when talking to people and ect. whatever bs i could think and bantered with her giving me 'these looks' like she stares at you blankly, I wasn't paying much attention it could have been sexual or not i couldn't tell at the time.
We get off the tram and I lead her towards the park walking down the stairs towards the park . I continued the conversation making her guess how old i was yadi yada
into the foot path and she cutely walks on the rocks of the side of foot path.. while balancing lol ...we get into the topic of family finding that she is restricted with her family.. not being able to go out too late( she was getting home by 7pm! which is not considered late when she is 19). Her mum is always on the leash about her going home too late.. she has no freedom and she desires freedom
Bantering along the way we sit down at a bench where is somewhat isolated... Now wtf do i do I thought?
she was sitting a bit distant away from me, I was relaxed and had my body open and fluid and she was a bit tense with her legs glued together, facing my direction and overall a bit nervous
my plan was to break that frame of 'needing' to go home because she said to her mum she would be home by 7pm but she also have this dilemma of wanting to break out from her cage..
I needed more time to warm her up and get sexual frame going.
''Don't you want to stay up longer''
she agrees and I asked when was the last time she stayed up even later than 7pm
''when are you going to fight back?''
she objected that her mum.. just becomes passive aggressive with her, she feels bad about making promises and not coming home on time
she was checking her phone to check the train lines, she takes a regional train line and it takes 1-2 hours to get home.
I notice she has had the no phone case and she still had the plastic cover, i moved closer next to her as an excuse to see it and we bantered for a bit on she is going to drop it and regret it.
we go back to the topic on staying longer than 7pm:
She said that it was a sleep over at her friends place and it was an exception and if she goes any later at 10pm there isn't any buses from her station to her house so she have to stay over.
Me: maybe that was an ioi because it was subtle and her body posture seemed more nervous when i got closer maybe she wanted me to physically escalate, i couldn't figure it out
I don't remember clearly what happened I remember trying to fill in the void with conversation topics around here but we continued the conversation and she suddenly moved further away from me and she became more 'comfortable ' judging from her body posture.
it was nearing 5pm and we had 10 minutes.. we walked back while talking about what she does usually in the weeks and weekends she never really had free time because she is busy with university and Saturdays and Sundays she is online tutoring.. making her logistics really difficult
In high school she couldn't even go out on Saturday and Sunday... only in school holidays. Holy shit this mum is possessive
we got back to the train station and I stop her before she starts walking in ''be honest do you want to meet again''
She looks all surprised and giggles ''maybe''
I look at her and joke is that a 'yes or no''
she said maybe
I smile and joke ''stfu thats a yes then''
she smiles ''nooooooo'
I ask when will she be free
and she moves exaggeratedly to wards the station with a smile ''i don't know we'll see''
we bid farewell
Thoughts:
Well this one was tricky, I was pressured and i was on a time limit. I tried to break her frame of 'needing' to go home and I felt she was slowly falling for my frame then. There was a couple times where the conversation gone silent which this was my first time having this happen so often.
I put up a question on the forums on 'Seducing Girls That Doesn't Talk' or something and it leaded to physical game.
It made me realize that I wasn't 'sexually' attempt to touch her like around the neck and ect. I just playfully push her, poke her and ect. Not much incidentally touch her on my end and nor did she. Perhaps if it was a regular confident girl there would be incidental touching
I don't know how to break that objection frame of needing to go home early. I was at a lost on how to seduce her.
Set ?:
A blonde 5'7, with a blue face mask, green sweater and black jeans, she had a back pack which looked heavy, she had alluring hazel eyes and was waiting for the tram
pre open with a tap on her shoulder, diverting my eyes away from her until she turns her head and locks onto my eyes first. She did
''hey do you know.. who do you look like..?'' I smile * she looks at me intrigued* '' I don't know if i should.. your going to get mad''
she responds: tell me..
''pinky promise me..''
she doesn't which surprised me as she shook her head no,
I laugh alright ''ill be honest you look like my ex.. but there's something different about you?''
She laughs after all the tension i build up and we introduce each other.
I cold read and qualify her on her career choice of being a desk lady for a disability people?( i can't remember the occupation name), We brisk along a few social frame questions like what she studied and what I do, she asked me what tram, I told her 8 or 3 which I said i can't see with my bad eyes so you tell me, she laughed and continue talking
just as i got to the juicy part like her hobbies which she stated she didn't know what to say.. I teased her was trying to impress me because she had so many.. which she did. Sking, swiming, hiking and a overall very athletic person
the tram arrived and I went for the close,
''would you like to meet again''
''sorry i got a lot of things on my hand so maybe next time..''
i blended in the rushing civilians who were walking towards the tram that i was 'going to go on' and i noticed she had already got on the tram of the one tram i was going to go and turn around to the central to continue hunting
Thoughts:
good work on me approaching her, I wanted to go on the same tram as she to continue but I thought maybe that at that time she asked me it was too late , so next time ill ask that question first before I have to come up with an answer to may or may not be her tram.
I wonder how does Bacchus pull girls from Trams or PTs, I can see it happen but the biggest problem would be logistics, the best you can have if your not living close to a tram line is going for the pull in the park... I leave thought for another time
8.4.21
Letting go of a Girl Or not?
Ok im going to be honest with this girl we'll call her HB twilight girl, this was the chick i went out on a date and written it in my Journal a few post back.
Tl: DR I don't know why I can't really take her Virginity, I just don't know about my self man..
Took her to my place again, she came from a train ride to my place which 2 hours yadi yada. Took her to my place once again on a plausible denability im reading her a book she brought with her. Ironic its a romance book.
got her onto my couch reading her book while slowly escalating then she decided to not read and we make out
I start properly physically escalating, she becomes 'tired' ok we go to the bed and i get her on top of me and she plays with my hair. I tickle her until i take off her bra and top.
she stops me and we go back to lying on my bed no big deal, a few make out in between. Few hours pass of talking and cuddling , im on top of her and I start licking and biting her nipples, I try to take off her pants then she brings up the objection 'sex doesn't have to happen in a casual relationship'. I broke the objection by promising her that I won't do anything if she took off her pants, thats bs and we broke the promise anyway.
We lies on her body on me as we make out.. we talk while making out asking about.. why im so closed off emotionally.. I tell her my personal shit.. and she states its part of the reason why im emotionally closed off.. It was getting pretty deep and we get back to making out and she stopped resisting to taking off her panties..
Something whispers into my head to stop and i get limped out.. it was uncomfortable I just don't know about my self..
We stop and we just chill while i let the dog into my room to change the whole mood, we just casually talk
and She took the misunderstanding of a 'casual relationship' means we are dating, i thought of a FWB was the idea... I thought we agreed to FWB not a casual relationship..
. It was getting late and we walked to the station as she wanted for us to walk which took us 30 minutes lol . She wanted to stay with me for longer and convinced me to skip the train ride which was coincidently waiting for us when we arrive there, 10 minutes later a train arrived and i didn't fall for her same persuasions and we got on
She wrote me a letter and it to me before I left because we weren't suppose to meet and that time was the last.
I read it when i get back which made me really emotionally.. got me tearing up while reading this piece...
Dear Nicko,
I don't even know what I an going to write but just bear with me.
I just hope you read this till last but if you don't want to then yoy can just toss it in bin. I would not know anything about it unless you tell me.
First thing I want to say is thank you for coming into my life. Idon't know what made you come and talk to me but i am glad yo did. You know I am so surprised at myself that in such short amount f time i got so attached to you this easily. Usually, it take a bit of time for me to be comfortable with people ut in your case, I was comfortable since the fay we first talked.
I wonder why I was so comfortable with you to share one of my deepest scars but i guess something happen naturally.
We both have got different ideas of love . While you wanted a non-string attached casual relation, i wanted a relationship that starts with the thought of future. I don't want to say but still I have to admit that you gave me feelings that i did not want to have. Not trying to blame or pinning the guilt towards you but in a way it did break me. All this time, my heart has been broken for the same reason. For trusting people easily and getting attached easily. I never could stop myself from doing these things and they end up breaking me.
I know the day I asked you questions about what are you looking for, it threw you off guard. I am someone who gives it all in a relationship. I am sorry for not being the one you are looking for. I cannot been knowing that the person who is loving me today will be making love to another person. I will not be able to share the love that is meant to be blossomed between two people. You really are an amazing person. For me , you were that person who has every right words to say. Maybe that's one of the reasons I liked you in first place. I guess some people are meant to cross paths of each other but not meant to stay together. And maybe we were one of those. This is all weird but in the fleeting moment between my living life, I iwll always wonder how ti could have been if we found a common ground.
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How I wish we had something more but then reality hits me making me realize that not every wish comes true.
You were told me about your scars so my best guess for that is you don't trust me enough and maybe you don't even have a reason to trust me . But that's okay.
I hope you find you secret keeper on day and just make sure not to lose her.
I know it may sound like a cheesy movie line but all these moments spend with you were on my beautiful memories. WHile just laying in bed with your arms wrapped around, playing with your hair, they all felt so natural and right thing to do.
I know we are too young to think about the future but i just wanted to start a relationship where at least we try to see a future for us.
Future is unpredictable, but I will be glad knowing at least we tried, I am not sure why you said your feelings were dead but i know you have feelings deep inside tucked into the corner of the heart
Hope you meet someone who can help your feelings to be awake. I don't know if you will remember me but you will always be remembered in my life.
You will always have a special place in my heart.
I wish you all the luck for your future you have planned. I do have faith in you that you will fufill all your dreams.
I just hope when we meet again in future, we at least smile towards each other have a genuine conversations about how is life going on rather acting like a stranger.
let me just stop here or else i might turn it into a book.
Have a good life, stay safe and happy
with love,
HB twilight girl
It tears me up reading it honestly.. just writing it .. idk what to do with her man..
9.4.21
Location: City
weather: cloudy cold... 17 degrees Celsius
outfit of choice : navy 3/4 overcoat, tan hoodie, black shirt with red roses printed, black cargo pants and some good old black boots
Not much really to report on didn't open much today a lot of passed sets i didn't end up approaching , AA was there half the time, attempted 1 walking set and she kept walking however the real highlights were substantial but good. 1 set in a moving tram, 1 set in a high AA area which i usually avoided, did a 2 set for test of courage, going direct got blown out lol
The first i girl i see i have to approach because that is where AA stems from not being to open.
Im honestly avoiding a lot of girls lately who look like international girls.. because it just too much a pain in a ass to deal with then it just manifests into AA.
Tram set:
I get on the tram to cool off my AA after opening a few sets earlier and didn't get any good response, then i see this girl who kept looking at me and showed lots of good baseline attraction, man the amount of mental resistance told me to not approach was not as much as initially thought,
She was on the other side of the carriage and i have to walk over.. but fuck it i told my self, I walk over slowly and calmly to see if I can calibrated approach her
She was sitting down.. asian, circular glasses black hoodie and black pants. I hover close to her by holding onto the tram handles that dangles on the roof.
'' hey... excuse me does this tram go to... xyz'' I smile and she responds with a giggle '' i actually don't know''
I laugh '' hey i notice.. you look familiar... have we met before?''
''Noo'' she giggles and we started introducing each other.
A person sitting to her opposite leaves as the tram stops, perfect I can lock in and engage her.
We get into a conversation... talking about her studies.. hobbies which is running. what i do and ect... She asks where im heading first and i respond with a park near by.. and she is heading straight down.. to a Airbnb which takes 40 minutes to get there...I qualified on her on what I could.. as I almost ran out of social frame as im leaving the park area.. I close on a stop that doesn't seem too far from the park..
Unfortunately she didn't give it out but she enjoyed the quick exchanges
Thoughts:
I reckon that was pretty smooth from my end. Approached her very naturally and wasn't direct and she was fairly hooked however it was too short and wasn't enough qualification for the number but it was a very good approach notherthenless.
What i could have done better was perhaps, approaching earlier, in a few years time ill be fucking girls who i met from trams hahaah lol just kidding
high AA set:
This one was a set from a mid section of the central. like a tube area where people just chill on the side where tables are laid out and yall can sit and chill out. There's always people there and its dead silent with small chatter among them selves. So everybody can see and hear you approach it freaked me out just approaching in front of these audiences.
For the must part that area is a place a generally avoid that area to approach because AA
However not today. I catch a girl with a deep blue hoodie who i thought was smoking hot on her laptop doing her work or something of sort and I took me 3 minutes of me I leaning by the pillars on my phone to muster enough courage to approach her.
i got closer and opened.
I did my guns opener on the ex- girl friend line and she responded decently and we start chatting. There wasn't any chairs so I sat on the table.
I was deceived and she wasn't hot at all, but i still stuck it in there and engaged with her
I was fucking nervous with me sweating and my face went a bit red then it cooled off as we started to get somewhere in the conversation.
I did simple cold reads, didn't get the reaction I wanted and it was getting socially awkward from her as kept breaking eye contact looking to the left to her laptop. I read between the lines and bid her farewell.
'unfortunately I have to go to meet my friend it was nice chatting with you''
Thoughts:
Well done me.. next time i see a real hottie im going for the kill
-I went out of a total of 4 times this week, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday . I started gaming the mall again out of convenience and the weather was unattractive being rainy and cloudy of late giving me path of resistance to going out to the city and overall effecting my productivity so I opted going to the mall again.
-I was having a harsh time dealing with AA again in the mall, so many opportunities slipped out of my fingers from attractive walking sets. It didn't felt so simple anymore having to force my comfort zone to use Gun's Openers and reality pacing on walking sets however I was glad I didn't rely on them at all during these outing!.
-Fortunately I at least did a few walking sets using Gun's opener and I didn't sub-consciously went direct by accident lol and quite calibratedly as well... striding from behind and catch up to pass her.. then posing infront of her pretending to look at the brands above you.. then open. Typically if they're already interested in you they would just pretend to hover cluelessly to a store on her left/right and try and get your attention as you turn around.
-Though I remember catching up to a smoking Russian(judging by her sharp hollow bones and nose and sexy European facial structure )blonde and unfortunately I walked to far in front and when i turned around she already entered a store lmao, kicked my self in the leg haha I should of opened when she looked at me when I was walking beside her.
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Approaches:
-I have gotten 2 numbers out of these outings. One from a instant date which I should of attempted a SDL however my cave man brain reconsidered that because i wasn't physically escalating her when I was doing my sex talk, and she would put up resistance despite she was comfortable with my touch(non-sexual) 'we weren't snuggled up together and increasing the sexual tension' .
-Her personality was pretty much a chill af/ crackhead personality type blonde, we were vibing hard when we first met as if we were already friends and we clicked instantly. Less than 3 minutes we went for a instant date cuz she was free and came to the mall just to get some coffee and to smoke.
-She wore a distinct hoodie with a punk/grunge vibe hoodie, all black and sexy red lips with a white rolled cig on her middle of her lip with a Cyan back drop and all black outfit with Black Tn's( got me hesitant for a bit lol)
-She was hooked and bounced a few locations
-To summary the location changes was: Coffee Shop, Lobby area?/Quiet Room/ near the toilets( the seats for comfy as) then outside on white concrete seats near the carpark
-When we were comfortably outside at one of the car exits, I don't remember if it was B or C exit. It was next to Zara, you go straight and their is a parking lot and turn right there a is white, curvy/ snake like concrete seats you can sit or smoke that leads outside, with plant decorations on the other side of the concrete seats I re-opened the subject of my ex and the topic was sex.
-She was smoking and properly deep dived on the topic when I persuaded her to sit down.
- she was very open to the idea of sex and sexuality from my sex talk however her distance away from me was a bit further then a expected.. Not that she wasn't comfortable but she could have sat closer to me but I guess she was being considerate not to get to close to me with a cig in her hand
-DML suggested I get S.E.C.T down first before attempting Sex Talk and during that interaction with the Sex Talk phase I changed my tonality to more soothing and more relaxed however the rest of the 3 keys need more work.
-I should have kept locked eyes with her when I delved into the topic and I should have been closer to her at least like our legs should be atleast touching each other and especially touch was lacking in that phase of the interaction
-It was an interesting experience from the instant date, she gave me those alluring eyes as I did my sex talk as I open looped her with using 'my ex' and building what ever sexual frame I could on top of my head.
-The mall was closing and it was getting late for me so I opted to meet her again and she agreed. Exchanged numbers and we she didn't third texts.... fuckkk
Me:Hey crackhead( call back humor) HB don't get lost, u said u live in xyz-Nicko Monday:5:39 pm
her: hahahaha 6:19pm
her: Yeah I doo, where about do you live? 6:19 pm
me: promise me you won't stalk me 7:08pm
me:: award to worst texter goes to? Wednesday 3:20 pm
-Perhaps ill write a FR, for you guys for further insights and suggestions on what I could have done.
-To successfully pull a SDL in the mall I thought 2 variables need to be considered. A place for isolation to escalate with the least amount of resistance for touch game to smoothly take place out of the publics eye b , and a place to pull.
-Beam would know the layout of the mall, and he probably agrees there isn't much places you can isolate a girl and do Kino calibrated.
-Honestly AA is just a pain in the ass at malls, It feels so much more natural with me approaching the City. I think its just the bombardment of quick walking sets rushing in every direction and sometimes I just get dizzy and I can't zone in lol
On Saturday i got kicked out of the mall by the security guards(got 2 complaints) 1 complaint was one from a walking set which gave me a fuck off face after i gestured her to come closer after she kept walking and finally stopped after I said 'excuse me' twice and the other one came out of nowhere lol..... tbh I felt like I whined a bit to Beam now im good lol.
School is just around the corner and I don't want to go back! ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
I actually haven't gone to that mall to game too much (in fact I think I've only gone once like a year and a half ago) - but it's huge. So there probably are places around that it can be done. Don't know. Maybe we should get the layout and strategize, lol
Outfit: All black: Black bomber jacket, Black Turtle neck, same black cargo pants, Black boots. I considered to rock out my Navy 3/4 overcoat but it would probably too hot to wear in the mall because they are generally not as cold as outside being well ventilated. Glad I didn't or else I would be feeling stuffed all day.
The City didn't have much cute girls tbh perhaps it was cloudy and we had bus replacements discouraged people to travel far. Too bad I got kicked out from my playground( mall lol) for a while.
I did some visualization and I imagine approaching some sets with my body moving and mouth , pre-opens, openers to warm up the brain in the backyard. If the peeked over the fence my neighbors must think im weird lol
Random Girl: shortly arriving on of the 4 stations in the city.. I was walking on the pedestrian lights as it turned green zoning out to focus on feeling as natural as possible to prepare to approach... a classic Australian made goldilocks 5'9- 6'0 hair in a pony tail( blue jeans, black leather jacket and white top Killer combo) smiled.... as I looked up. Forsaken me I kepted walking and once I crossed to the other side I turned back to see her walking down.. I figured it was too late as the lights was flashing red to warn the pedestrians to stop crossing
I should of instantly turned back.. too quick in the moment I need to stay sharp and focused
Girl 1 stationary(warm up) : Emo vibe, a girl with all black outfit vibing on the concrete seats with black headphones, copper brown short hair, her hair style was more of a wave, spanning from the ear and up curving over the scalp like a wave at a beach.
she was too busy on her phone and I couldn't to get her to look at me so I approached with out any proper pro-opens
Me :''Hey excuse me'' I smile locking on to her eyes before she connected with mine, Whoops and I was slightly leaning a bit forward
*she looks up*
Me: ''are you familiar around here '' I smile and gestured my index finger in a circle motion
Her: "'yeah I guess so'' Still keeping eye contact*
Me:'' Do you know where is xyz?''
her: ''oh yeah its just over there'' *she points and I look over*
Me: '' oh, thanks'' * I return back to her eyes and smile*
*she cracks a smile*
I bid farwell
Should have cold read her after the she smiled back and continued the conversation and cold read her on her outfit of choice being emo.
Girl 2, 2 set( no approach) : 1 really caught my attention as I walked past near a bubble tea shop....
She had those sexy black short skirt and a black singlet, standing slightly taller than me with black boots, Cute brunette pony tail with a fringe in front. Problem it was either a 2 set or a mixed set.
Her girl buddy was standing close to her of who was not as attractive as this girl, I assumed it was going to be a 2 set or a mixed set cuz there was 4 chumps on the right of her not so far also waiting for the bubble tea drinks.
I walked back and forth down that path, pretending to be on my phone posing and seeing her reaction with my peripheral vision and she was clear as day she wanted me to say hi judging from the multiple glances dragging her friend from the group of guys. I turned my head back and felt defeated because it was 'too hard' to approach then I felt the jolt adrenaline just imagining what would it feel like to approach the 2 set and win.
I turned my head to look over and they disappeared..
Girl 3 stationary sitting : Aussie brunette girl around in her 20-25s , hair in a pony tail, Black hoodie, blank jeans and was eating/ chilling on her phone at a stool, more oval facial structure, all alone not in a vicinity of a large group of people to witness my approach.
I checked around my usual hunting ground and I found a few sitting sets above the train station where there is a lobby for people to wind down next to a sushi bar. I passed out on a decent looking Asian girl in the lobby, I rationalized that she was international( language barrier and my mandarin is not proficient enough for seduction yet at best I can get numbers) and didn't bother approaching and there was too much people.
I battled my AA, hesitantly walking back and forth for 2 times and finally approaching.. after she showed some signs of attraction.
I approach her on the side
Me: ''Hey excuse me..''
her: '' Hi!'' with a small hint of a small
''do you know... who do you exactly look like? ''
''what?''
[I repeat but louder ] while I move over to sit to the opposite of of her on the stools where there was a table in front
*she laughs* phew.. got a little bit nervous there
we introduce each other and shake hands.
got into nationalities, and cold reading her being a surfer based on her vibe.. she said she isn't and I probed why ''idk'' was the response and she added she likes the beach.
''oh yeah ur probably that type of person who goes to the xyz beach''
She just awkwardly nods lol..
bad cold read and didn't open threads
I ask if she is studying/working, turns out she works here is on her lunch break and I joke yeah 'ur just vibing with that half eaten food on the table and the phone''
''haha im just trying to get into zen state you knowww''
then I asked what would her dream job be, she responded 'idk'. I directed the conversation towards travelling.
''Hawai.. or somewhere Europe'' I probed why and she said because I brought up surfing.
I notice from her body language at that point of the conversation, she stopped paying attention to the phone and stuffed it away into her small bag on the table.. I thought I was reaching hook point but turns out she had to go
we bid Farwell walking in opposite directions
Looking back at it, the more advance guys could have used that Travel as a starting point of a SOT, at best I could have reality paced her on the feeling of traveling.
Girl 4 stationary sitting : cute Asian petite girl, Philippine with classic bleached golden hair wrapped like a spiral at the back with a fringe in front of her heart shaped fascial structure. round silver frame glasses ascetically suits her face. with a all black work outfit. On her phone looking down at all times in front of a table and chair.
I noticed her before approaching girl 3, and when I walked back towards her I didn't approach 2 times, glued to her phone and didn't show any signs of approach invitation or attraction
I finally cut the shit and approached.
My memory is a bit fuzzy here with this interaction
Me: ''Hey excuse me... do you know who do you exactly look like? '' I smile and extend my hand to know someone is approaching her?( idk why i do it lol, its like u go up to someone and extend your arm out to get their attention when you have question or smthing)
''what?'' she looks up from her phone
'' do you know.. who do you look like?'' I smile again
''who do I look like?'' she looks a bit intrigued
''u wanna know?''
''sure..''
''ok pinky promise me... you won't get mad''
''uh sure'' *she pinky promise*
''ok you exactly... look like my ex''
*she laughs* ''really?''
'' yeah, but idk there is this vibe about u that's different''
''whats your name?''
*we introduce my self*
here is my memory gets a bit fuzzy here.
we briefly talk and I sit down by pulling the chair out and sit and try to hook her.
She brings back the topic of my ex by asking me if I can show a picture of her on Instagram, I refuse because she is going to lose her shit
*she laughs*
''I saw you walking back and forth here, is that why u approached me?''
''yeah I just had to see if you were her, you got that whole look exactly like here''
''why can't I get her @?''
''no because that would be stalking''
''isn't that the point of social media? to get stalk and get stalked?''
I get a bit nervous because this where it gets awkward, this fucked my social frame, she noticed waking around here, looks try hard, ''this guy is talking to me because I look like her ex''
''is this how you normally approach people?''
''no, i just had to find out.. if you were here or not ''
shit got a bit awkward and I bid farewell.
I did a few things wrong here,
1. I broke eye contact with out thinking and qualified my self to her when she questioned me with social frame questions because it threw me off guard and I didn't have an automatic response at the time which seeped out the initial attraction.
2. I should have taken these questions to my social frame as a shit tests , If I have warmed up properly I think I would automatically responded better sub-consciously
Her: ''I saw you walking back and forth here''
Me: '' hold up... ur stalking me already? less than 1 minute and i think ur a stalker like my ex, thats a bad impression missy ''
her: '' do you normally approach people like this?''
me: '' yeah I say hi to my ex's and they give me chocolate and teddy bears '' amplify and exaggerate, A old method by Heartsie to handle shit tests
her: ''why I can't get her @''
me: '' i don't know missy, i don't trust u yet "
3. I should have cold read her and open threads, I stalled my topics and I didn't respond fast enough to bring new topics on to light thus she kept pushing the ex topic because thats what she used to continue the conversations.
Girl 5 stationary : blonde, split hair, skater vibes, around my age? loose black zip hoodie, black jeans, gray sport top/bra?
sitting by the seats on the tram, no approach invitation, no bassline attraction
I approach same, same opener and she was pretty neutral to her responses and to my cold read. I thought she wasn't feeling it at all and i was sensing she was getting awkward and I just dipped.
Girl 6, stationary set : A very cute girl with resting red hair, outfitted with navy blue jeans and a white top, exposing her lean torso and sexy petite body who was around 5'6. I look closer she had an attractive young face with a heart fascial structure that illustrates her curiosity and innocence's . I concluded she was around my age . She approached me from walking down the stairs as I pretended to not notice her , my first intention was to approach her as I was resting by the rails, not long she noticed me and she showed signs of interest and unexpectedly she ended up approaching me, planting her self 'coincidently' very close to me and on her phone.
I turn my head open to open and faced her,
Me: '' Hey excuse me....'' I smile
Her: ''Heyyy!'' she responds with a cute smile
Me: ''do you know who ......who do you remind me?''
Her: ''Who!'' she enthuastically questioned me
me: ''ok.. pink promise me.. you can't get mad''
her: ''OK'' she giggles
Me: ''Ok get this.. you exactly look like my ex... but theres a different vibe''
Her: She giggles and we exchange names
Me: then she responds after we exchange names
Her: ''Sorry im in a hurry to meet my friends''
I should of pushed through that objection instead of going for a phone number close and call her later to build rapport
Me: ''thats ok, we'll exchange numbers but only if your not crazy''
*She didn't register what I said and repeated what she said earlier*
Me: ''My friends are waiting, I have to go meet them''
I foolishly let her this pretty girl go... after thinking she was legit.
Me: ''ok then, well have a good day''
Her: ''Thank you!''
It seems like she legitimately had to go meet her friends, she was nervous in a good way, being estatic about me approaching her, I don't know how I was pushing for a number close didn't register. I made a silly mistake of not persisting about her 'meeting her friends' when she was so happy I approached her.
Girl 7, 2 set stationary: two girls sitting on the seats near the tramp stops, From the look of it they were both asian the left one had bangs and a pony tail, a black mask, oval/ diamond structure white nitted turtle neck and a white dress , The right wore a black zipped jacket, gray shirt. The left one had a very feminine vibe which I found very attractive in girls. Yum
I avoided this one for about 10 minutes upon seeing these 2 sets, I walked around until I approached Girl 6 then came back with high social momentum to tackle this 2 sets.
The left noticed me before, I came back and she was showing signs of interest I pretended to not see them as I got closer. I was looking at the map on the tram platfroms/stations. I turn around I walk slowly and smile.. I open
Hey! I know this is pretty corny.... but I think you 2 are kinda-cute so I had to say hi.
I switch my eye contact from the left to right and back as I open to make sure the right doesn't feel left out.
Their eyes were wide as I approached and giggled as they looked at each other. They were receptive surprisingly.
I introduce my self to the right first and her name was in a deeper toned voice... was something unexpected which threw me off guard.. she laughed self amusingly and posed with her fingers lol, I laugh and sussed her out if she was bullshiting or not. She said she was legit while laughing, I didn't believe her. The right had a 'memey' personality like pop culture / meme reference, that kinda shit
I turn to my left and asked for her name and introduced my self. A soft spoken feminine voice whispered to me. I couldn't hear anything and told her to take her mask off and I was 100% right she was cute indeed.
I cold read both of them do get the ball going. ''so who is the older sister of this relationship? '', ''why is that? '' ''oh really?'' ect. Getting the right one to warm up as well as the left. '' what are both of your hobbies?''
They said gaming and this specific game 'Warframe'( good f2p game, in a nut shell a cool af 'open world' with a ton of unique playable space 'ninja's'/warframes killing shit in the galaxy with amazing lore as the bonus . trust me its not Destiny, 700+ hours in this game lmao )
did some light banter with some inside game references. I said I was going to sit down to test the compliance and thee right was already pretty chill. ''bruh just sit' the right said.
there was a lot of topics we bounced but it was filler to build rapport, they asked what brought me to the city and I simply responded I was meeting a friend
I mainly talked to the right but occasionally included the left. She had legs facing towards me, and crossed it towards me it seemed as I included her more in our conversation with the right.
I asked about what they study( turns out they were in the same age group) and did some light banter, they asked my age and said I was 16 and they were the same age and our interactions became much more smoother.
the left was studying media, and the right is just tagging along with her today do some of her work for media. Which was just taking pictures and stuff like that
*gained Social frame+*
the right was more bantery and the left was neutral as I wasn't focused on her reaction as much but having better social frame felt the interaction was improving on a superficial level after telling them my age.
I tried to hook them in with pregnant pauses on the topic of freedom but I rushed it and didn't come off how I wanted to , the left was more restricted because of asian tiger bomb parents. I did see the left eyes lit up in interest so I know my technique would have served me well if I had some form of topic to go off of being free at the time.
I was spending too much time on these sets(at least 30 minutes) and I number closed the left after if they wanted to meet again she said she didn't mind exchanging numbers. the right was interested.
Stayed with them a little bit longer and lefted
Setting sexual frame looks hard doing with 2 sets and I found trying to build a deeper relationship with two sets is a bit difficult, however it was a good interaction regardless. getting a number pull from a two set feels good.
Me: hey HB i noticed osmething interesting about u-Nicko 4:51pm
Her: oh? what is that interesting thing? 5:02pm
Me: do u know who do u exactly look like? 5:17pm
Her: I do not, who do i look like? 5:17pm
Me: do u wanna know? 5:49pm
Her: sure 5:57pm
Me: ok .U won't get mad right?( eww so fucking needy now I look at it) 7:54pm
( not surprised she didn't respond back, 2 days after I shoot a text)
Me: oh second thought, are u open minded? ( tried to revive the convo) tuesday 7:15pm
Maybe I should have responded to her on 5:57pm when her attention was still there, that msg when I put ''u won't get mad right?'' is very needy and fucked it up and my delay response was not necessary.
Girl 8 instant date:I was about to walk across the pedestrian lights.. I turn to my left to see this this chick who glanced at me, and when I returned eye contact she sat down next to a seat and looking into the distance blankly.
I changed my mind crossing the lights, I thought i'll give it a shot. She looked good at first glance then as I approached closer she wasn't as attractive as I initially thought.
She was cute ish ,Japanese , 5'6 around 30-40, she looked good for being this old but I have seen better lol, dark brown hair( brittle, dry ), speaks broken english.
I approached her from the side.
*I tap her on the shoulder*
Me: hey excuse me...
*she was startled*
Me: sorry(lol) didn't mean to scare u
*she faces be with her torso*
Me: do you know.. who do u look like?
her: what? are u lost? *basically confused*
I notice she has a heavy Japanese accent
Me: are u from here? do u speak English?
her: no, Im not very good.
* It took a bit of effort breaking down the opener to her by using gestures and words she know*
she laughs/giggles after I explained to her 'why' i approached her lol.
''sit, sit'' she pats the seat lol, I was actually surprised
tl: dr instant date, no physcial escalation during sex talk on isolated bench in the park , get number and leave to continue cold approaching.
To roughly summaries this long interaction : we started talking and she was laughing a lot , about her job: customer service giggling about how she gets confused when people talk to her during work, her English isn't that great and she gets confused , being in Australia for 3 years for better work, all that stuff. I bounced locations to the park for an instant date. She agrees and we talk more on the tram. I try to touch her calibrated during our whole interaction.
topic on the tram:
Key topics: -> her job ->people not really connecting in person -> her world being Japanese -> the judgmental side of Japanese culture-> Japanese work culture
getting off the tram, we talk fluff and I prepare for sexual frame using judgement as entry point of the conversation.
Finally find a seat and she sits on my left, I sit on her right extending my body to feel much more comfortable, I put my left hand on the bench behind her neck. However her seating position is leaning forward and her back is not leaning on the bench and is 'crouched' forward on the bench like she is about to fall off lol.
topic on the park bench:
open loop from the ex I mentioned earlier-> understanding sex from my ex-> sex is good and we all enjoy it-> judgements from people/culture , separating me from them- > she added onthe topic of sex on girls need a plausible denability of going home with someone( I wasn't sure she was DTF based on that response-> I agreeded and added further on that line of topic , that girls need to have an excuse to go to someone place and if sex happens, sex happens naturally,
I tried to touch her and get her to lean back on the bench next to my arm as a starting point to physically escalate , we were close on the bench but she was still leaning forward on the bench like, sitting on the edge of the bench while engaging with me. I touched her where it was natural like inspecting what happen to her finger when she had a band aid on it and comparing hand sizes.
The way I did sex talk needes to be improved and performing s.e.c.t I need more physical escalation to amp it , she didn't seem all that aroused by it, Sure she was agreeing with me but she didn't give me bedrooms eyes.
after quite a long talk and I ran out of ways of touching her smoothly, we walked back to the tram, exchanged numbers and set for plans to meet again this Sat( she didn't respond to ice-breaker, should have called but she's not worth the effort)
I'll find articles on how to physically escalate on Girl Chase for more reference
She lived close by, I wasn't all that sexually interested in her. I could have closed but she was roughly a 6.5 after
She lived very close in the city if I haven't mistaken, it would have been a 10 minute tram ride. Im not sure why i didn't pull but I think I wasn't all that sexually aroused tbh,
This whole interaction showed me I lack real sexual physical touch game. Maybe should of attempted to go home with her when logistics were great but she wasn't all that sexually arousing when she was only a 6.5. I might find a real hottie next time I go out who knows, but before then I want to get a base on physical touch game.
Girl 9 PT:
a short Napel girl with bleached yellow hair, blue jeans with a cute body , A number grab from on the train, didn't respond to my second text. It was uncalibrated.
I approached and she was very receptive prior of showing interest first, talked a bit and a good vibe, not long after her stop was here and we quickly exchanged numbers, I send her a text 5 minutes latter didn't respond. ''where are u heading?-Me". It was 5:45 pm ish when we exchanged numbers I called at 8pm for rapport.
she couldn't talk right now she responded. 2 days later I shoot her a text ''hey future lover! what u been up to" (lol).
uncalibrated, im trying different ways of texting to see if i can get a response. its going to be cringe at first but I'll get somewhere I think.
outfit: black bomber jacket, black turtle neck, black cargo pants, white sneakers
From now on, im carrying 3 condoms to get my brain in the mode to go for SDL's. Previously I carried 2 in my wallet but I feel like 2 isn't a good number lol.
In the summary of my I did roughly 10 approaches(2 phone numbers but 0 leads) on Saturday/ 24.4.2021, I need to push beyond girls who are have boyfriend and eventually break their frame on their boyfriends/
Unfortunately I can no longer properly recall the approaches but I can remember the most memorable ones.
The Highlight was HBLuggageGirl: The interaction was really good and she was holding intense eye(im guessing sexual frame?) contact all the time in a span of 10 minutes or less . I should have went for the attempt of SDL , Logistics looked a bit out of shape. she booked a hotel for 1 night( that same day) and going to chill/gossip with her friends get later. I wasn't sure if her friends were going to her place to mess around or go out and some other friends place, I forgot but...
the real problem was I don't know how hotels work , are they cool with bringing random/unregistered guests with out checking any identification? I don't want to run the risk because it would kill my social frame on the spot and drown me into all kinds of trouble lol.
I went for the phone number and ended the interaction after getting it too early and setting a loose date to meet up. Should of continued her qualifying for me on her many hobbies.
she didn't respond to ice breaker unfortunately, I really need to be much more ambitious with seducing girls into beds on the same day. I'm holding my self back a lot if I don't attempt a SDL even with tricky logistics. Any how this was roughly how the interaction went.
I dodged the rain as it started to pour, after losing all the social momentum I had( rain kills the vibe lol) . I notice this cute Ethiopian girl with long black dreads and killer body on her phone presumably waiting for her friends , I hesitate because of the group of people is in front( they get on my nerves lol) of us just talking among themselves, I become gun shy for a bit and I walked back and forth around that area and I finally decided to approach.. then I found this new girl.. Both of them showed interest, due to preference bias I obviously picked the latter lol.
A very attractive Asian(Malaysian) girl with a light blue luggage, light camel over coat, knitted white sweater, blue jeans and sexy petite body. Her face was more or less like a oval and had very good skin and reflective of the dim lights above us . Brown eyes and the classic Cambodian tan skin
I tap her on the shoulder, I look to the side and I smile. She turns around and locks onto my eye. I return it
The interaction:
*she smiles*
Me: ''Hey do you know... who do you exactly look like?'' I smile
She giggles and is visually intrigued, ''who do I look like?''
Me: ''Do you want to know?''
''Yeah!'' she smiles
Me:''Ok I can tell you really want to know now!''
She giggles
Me: ''I kid you not.. you exactly look like my ex-girlfriend'' I laugh
She laughs as well. "really!? wow''
We introduce each other and hand clasp, she responds well.
I go into guessing my nationality stuff to build some momentum and some small investment stuff ''show me ur xyz''. I joke about her luggage really makes her look like a tourist. She giggles and tells me she is staying in the city for 1 night and meeting up with her friends. I tease her ''you mean gossiping'' she laughs. She asks me what im up to, im just 'waiting for a friend'
Me:'do you live in the city or around here?''
Her:''no used I live in this [suburb]''
Me: ''Where is that?'' (i genuinely didn't know where )
She explains where about that suburb is, now I think back at it I think this is where she held strong eye contact right around her.
her: 'where about do you live?''
Me: '' Promise me ur not crazy first.. you might be a stalker who knows''
She laughs, '' I promise''
Me: 'I live around [suburb]''
I go into what she does for a living/ studying
''what do you study or do? ''
''Oh im old'' She laughs, I work
I naturally continue on find out that she works at some sort of hospitality work, I completely forgot and In return she asked me what I work.
''I work at myers, saving up to become an entrepreneur''
I go into some random verbal about entrepreneur need to socialize with people and they need to push their comfort zones or whatever. Basically fluff talk.
me:''you probably don't understand what im saying are u?'' I give her a suspicious look
Her: ''no, no I totally get it'' giggles
Me: ''when do you have to go?''
Her:''just when the rain stops pouring'' she smiles* nice touch she wants to continue talking
Me:''what is something you love to do?''
her: ''Well I have many things?''
Me:'' it sounds like to me your like.. oh Yes! its my time to show off to him'' I tease
she laughs,
Her:''I go out.. hike and golf''
I raise my eyebrow on the work 'hike and golf'
Me: 'thats interesting, where do you play golf?'
her: ''Just where I used to live, there was a park there.''
I tease ''yeah i can imagine you and your girlfriends all gossiping in the park''
she giggles and admits to it lol.
I suggest we should go grab some coffee together, She agrees..
''just letting you know I have a boyfriend'' she gives a smile and a coy look with her eyes
I laugh, ''how is that looking up to you''
she giggles
:Her 'its doing fine''
We exchange numbers
Me: ''I notice thats a cute ring can I see it?''
Her: ''Yeah sure!'' I inspect it with my two fingers, ''omg! ur married congratulations'' I tease
she giggles 'Noooo we're not married but his been hinting it for a while'' lol
"ah I see, do u live alone?'' susing out for logistics in the future
' no I live with a room mate just not far from here, its at [suburb]'' Its close to the city.
''Have you noticed... when its raining you just.. want to go out and explore.. and become much more adventurous... instead of cosing up under here?''
''what?'' she giggles
Me:'' You have bad ears''
her: ''whaattt'' giggles*
I repeat the stuff that matched the vibe that was fun and flirty not immersive and surreal, despite that she hold very strong eye contact through out the entire duration, I broke off it 1-2 times sub-conciously to think about what to say next and couldn't hold the eye contact but she was the one who broke it off majority of the time lol.
Me:''whats your roomate like?''
Her: ''My roommate? well [name] is like really chill, we mind our own business but we say hi occasionally '
I tease her about something, which I completely forgot what it was
Me:''wait is your roommate a guy named Tyler?'' I legit thought it was a dude named Tyler
Her: ''Noooo its a girl''
Me:''ohh i couldn't hear you properly over the rain''
she giggles and corrects me.
at the time I ran out of stuff to say or do and I just bid farewell, I didn't want to make it 'awkward' which is a stupid thought.
I should of continued here but I felt content at the time of getting a number on this day so I left
The lack of sexual frame I noticed, it didn't try to go into any sex talk which I should have. Even I couldn't pull the SDL I should have tried at least going to her hotel or escort her to the hotel to better off cement the interaction: ''not just some guy who approached me'' to ''this guy is hot and took my to my hotel where it was raining''
She didn't respond to ice breaker a few hours later: Hey [name].. I noticed something interesting
I shot another text and still didn't respond: ''hey party animal [name], how was ur party with ur friends?
I'm going to startand put up posts on 'Call/texts'' for help with texting
Girl 1 stationary : An asian girl with glasses, hair in a pony tail, cute face and petite body
I notice she was leaning against the wall and looking at her phone with earphones plugged in, I pretended to not notice her while I look at directions and I approach after fighting my first approach anxiety lol.
I opened directional+ gun's opener
''Hey excuse me ...'' I reach my hand out and smile
*she looks up and I gesture her hand to take off her earphones*
''Hey excuse me do you know where is xyz?''
''uhh.. I think its over there'' *she points while looking that direction
''are u lost aswell?'' I joke
*she giggles lightly* ''Im sure its that way''
''thanks! also... I just noticed, do you know who you exactly look like?''
''No I don't know''
''ok pinky promise me won't get mad, idk u might get mad' ( something like that, adding maybe and she might get mad)
She suddenly folds her arm and responds
''Yeah i don't know, I don't even know u so i don't think I would want to know''
*that's where he realized he fucked up*
I eject and bid her farewell
OK I think the approach was ok, could have gotten better but I fucked it up, social frame vanished and she felt uncomfortable when I transitioned into Gun's opener. That's not the issue it was the delivery.
I was facing her straight on too much and I was subconsciously fidgeting when I transitioned into Gun's opener moving my torso away from her.
Next time: Transition is much more smoothly to not come off creepy, don't face her straight on.
Girl 2 sitting set(eating): cute Asian girl with circular glasses, pepper and salt purple hair, black blouse with a black ruffled dress.
I admit I was pretty nervous with this set, I walked back and forth for at least 2 minutes pretending to be on my phone and waiting for a imaginary person. She already showed interest by raising her head to check me out for a second, making direct eye contact when my eyes where staring off into the distance. I walked away but that jolt brought me back to her.
I walk over with a pre-empted with a smile, visualizing she would smile back sweetly.
I extend my out as she is on her phone and eating her noodles. '' Hey excuse me..''
*She looks up*
''I know its kinda corny but I couldn't help your nice sense of style so I had to say Hi''
Her: ''What?''
*she takes off her air pods*
''you didn't hear that!?'' I laugh
*she giggles with a half smile* 'no I didn't'
''I said, I know its kinda corny but I couldn't help notice ur nice sense of style so I had to say hi'' I smiled
''Aww thank you'' she smiles and her eyes expand
I sit down and I asked what was her name, while moving
we exchange names, handclasp back and I intentionally cross my legs away from her.
We talked about simple stuff and I ran out of things pretty quick. Did a quick tour with my nationality.. directing it to what she studies and where she would travel ''Some where in europe''. I asked and she said 'idk'. I pried her a bit more on what she studies. asked for small investments of showing her earrings to me. Adventuring out of her comfort zones from studies and stuff
Joked about her looking like my ex, using the same way as Gun's opener.
Its interesting where I found her fiddling with her necklace( good sign) and crossed her legs towards me.
I ran out of things pretty fast.. Im not in the zone yet. We talk a bit more fluff for about a few minutes and I go for the number pull,
''Unfortunately my friend is here, Would you like to meet again?'' I smile
Her: ''Yeah sure, just as a friend I have a boyfriend''
Me:''Wow, wow slow down girl, ur already trying to suit me up.. relax'' I tease her
She giggles and attraction spikes.
Her:''ok ok I won't'' she giggles
Me:''But.. we'll see how the boat sails''
We exchange, I stay a bit longer after getting the number and I was about to bid farewell then and I made a last second decision by staying instead. I was winging the verbals on the spot, I won't deny it that I was nervous and I was sweating a lot.
Me:''Hey, I just realized something about you...''
She looks more intrigued
Me: "beside the fact you remind me of my ex.. it seems like you have the same vibe as her ''
her: 'what is the vibe?'
Me: '' She was a person who was adventurous.... and loved pushing boundaries/ comfort zones( she was nodding)''
I thought a person walked by and said something to me as it was really close, I turn my head but it was just people waking lol.
I look back and she was still making eye contact... I have a habit of breaking eye contact and looking to the right when I need to think lol.
I can't remember, I made some general assumptions with the information she given about her self, while that was happening she looked to the left as well,
Her: ''Sorta.. no'' lol I was kinda expecting this response
I just leave it there and bidfarwell
She didn't respond to ice breaker: Hey HB! enjoy ur meal and promise me u won't try and suit me up ''
Yeah, pretty much winged the last part, she didn't respond the ice breaker.
Girl 3 sitting set: Italian, a sexy European fascial structure and lean on the face, red nails and lips, Hair in a bun with a fringe
I was walking around the mall and I found this sexy European girl who was sitting and showed signs of interest, I stopped walking and I was on my phone pretending to look lost and approached her.
I walk over slowly and I tap her on the shoulder.
''Hey.. do you know who.. who exactly look like?'' I smiled
She smiles and holds eye contact , ''who do I look like?''
''u want to know?''
She's giggling and smiling
''I know u do That face tells me ur intrigued'' I tease
she giggles
''ok promise me.. you won't get mad''
Her: 'ok sure''
I pinky promised her and delivered it
She laughs and we exchange names,
Me:''what brings you out here?''
her:''oh im just here with my mum to eat, over there ordering''
Me: ''Your mum won't mind if I hit on you right?''
she laughs. lol
I turn around and I see this oversized blonde with a pissed off face holding a blue tray lol.. I turn around and bid her Farwell and left
Unfortunate, im not a fan of BBW so i'll pass lmao and she had that pissed off face. What boggles me is that is her 'mum' lol.
Girl 4( walking set); cute Malaysian girl, with bangs with a blue mask. Leather jacket and a tight black jeans and I can't remember her top lol
I catch her outfit and it caught my attention because of the leather jacket. I walked passed her and I kepted walking for a second then I turned around to catch up to her. She looks back and she notices me, I think she slowed down.
I tapped her on the shoulder, looking away and smiled.
She makes eye contact as she turns around
''Hey.. do you know who you exactly know who you look like?''
She looks intrigued through the mask '' Who do I look like?''
I don't remember what happened here but it turned out pretty well
''How can you tell just me seeing the top half of the face?'' she giggles
''well you exactly look like her, like the bangs as well''
She laughs, I go into boring stuff, what do you study and asking a basic stuff.
Me:''what are you up to?''
Her: ''Oh, im meeting my sister down this way?''
Me: ''what a coincidence, I was heading that way, lets talk while we walk''
'*she looks a bit uncomfortable as we walk*
Me: ''If your un-comfortable then I guess not''
her: ''yeah im um-comfortable lets not'' she smiles?( it looked so genuine )
and we bid farwell
Ok, I screwed up the transition by asking her for compliance to walk in the same direction. Not enough social frame? or enough investment in the first place. Asking her what she was up to was a mistake with out building the interaction first
I did around 5 more sets until turning a set into a proper interaction.
1 interaction I ejected sub-consciously because she had a boyfriend when she was clearly enjoying the conversation.
I should of played along either way. I need to use Tony D line ''How is that looking up for u?'' and continue the conversation.
25.4.21(Sunday)
Location: City
Weather: cloudy, 18-20 degrees Celsius with a bit of wind
same outfit and the same 3 condoms lol.
Happy Anzac day!
Real highlight was going on a instant date with a girl who was my age and was with a little brother who was 8 lol so basically he tagged along and was the third-wheeler.
A fairly Asian cute girl, malyasian girl with a distinct Malaysian( i might be wrong lmao) features with a more triangle to diamond fascial feature and a peitie body, all black outfit with a sick anime aesthetic black anime hoodie. She was very giggly and couldn't hold the sexual tension very well or I could have been doing it a bit wrong trying to switch the vibe into more sexual then flirty and fun.
To summaries this long 2 hour interaction: I opened direct, she was hooked and we moved to another location, which I intended to go the park but decided to go a big open place we mucked around, teasing his little brother into talking to other girls around his age for fun, and if he did he would get a snack while simultaneously keeping her engaged with my verbal's.
I figure this wasn't the right place to try and practice physical game all that much and doing sex talk here feels a little bit inappropriate and the lil brother would probably try and cock block me.
I decided to take this lil bro to a playground where he can play and both of us can just 'chill'' on the benches like parents lol
We walked to a nearby park and let him played while I tried to test the waters with touch game while we were moving, we sat at a bench and we talked, she seemed pretty comfortable with hanging my arms around her neck and pulling her closer to my body on high notes where she was laughing.
in the aspect of verbal game it wasn't much, First I used excuses to get closer to her, like ''checking her spotify playlist'' which had some intreseting playlist like ''falling in love'' lol teasing her as wrap my arms around my neck and playfully teasing her while im at it.
i could of attempted S.E.C.T i thought on the benches but there was this thought back of my head since she is in my cities region and goes to a school that was close to my old school which was fairly close to me, I held back on sex talk because of the repercussions of my name floating out there... however I did some reality pacing before hand when we were mucking around at the big open area about ''people should mind their own business and let us enjoy our private lifestyles'' hinting who we meet and have sex should be kept out from people which she agreeded but I know girls will gossip so its was give or take.
I remember back when we were in the big open area I said ''you know what I find lowkey-ness sexy'' in a more surreal tone but she couldn't stop giggling and looked submissive towards me while we were messing around with her younger brother( he was playing a little game of hide and seek with us, hiding around the corner and running back when we would come over to him) which kinda confused me if I got the right effect,
anyhow while we were at the benches I should of continued to try and physical escalate while we were checking her phone out by holding her waist or man handle her a kiss while inspecting her phone as she was pretty comfortable with me as I took her phone away from her for fun and i forced her to move her body onto me by reaching it away from her reach, she was pretty much falling on top of me trying to reach the phone and we got back to our regular position having my hand around her neck, she moved her thigh closer to me close the gap.
While teasing from the phone, I moved onto the photo albums,( we already did the Spotify thing) and she scrolled through her album as I looking at it, i notice this hot asian asthetic girl with mad E-girl vibes on her phone and asked to see it, she giggled and said no and I teased her is that her, she said yes and I was determined to see it, it turned out
it was uncalibrated which made she took my arm off playfully as she giggled as I tried to see her photo album involving her, I asked why, she said she was too embarrassed to show me that photo of her.
SnapChat filters man.. they make you look completely different lol.
I stopped and rested my arms on the bench and I noticed she moved further away... before we were really close where our thighs were touching each other.
Was it really embarrassment? that caused this knee-jerk reaction? anyhow I tried to amplify the sexual energy by telling her to hold my gaze in a game of staring contest but she just couldn't and I just got bored,
I got closer and we talked further more, I accidently brought up '' Do you know who you remind me off'' and she was intrigued, I didn't go any further and talked some fluff while pulling her hair tie off, to tease her more
During the interaction I would bring up the conversation with her little brother, '' Hey do you think he would talk to that girl'' or something stupid and I would reset my arm onto her neck.
her mum called while were at the benches, at she would be meeting them at 4pm.
I figure this interaction was good enough to be cemented as it was 3:30pm by then and it was about time I move onto a different set, SDL'ing her seemed immposible with his younger brother and I don't want to be irresponsible and run off with her lol.
We went back to CBD and boughts this kid a Pocky(a snack) as a reward and a social frame if she does tell her parents about me , we promised this kid if said hi to a girl he would get a snack of sort, first it was ice-cream but he changed his mind lmao he was kinda pouty about it too.
I suggested we go to a dessert place near my place and she agreed but she was unsure with her schedule ( thats bs I felt) on the way to get the snack and we were going to bid Farwell near the library as I told her I would be going by 4pm as well but she wanted to stop a bubble tea shop first, I was cool with it and the younger brother suddenly mentions he has to go to the toilet so we bid farewell there
She got flakey over text and I fucked up too so it was a waste lol.
im putting up a post up for this one, I don't understand exactly where I messed up
the real problem was I don't know how hotels work , are they cool with bringing random/unregistered guests with out checking any identification? I don't want to run the risk because it would kill my social frame on the spot and drown me into all kinds of trouble lol.
You act as if your a guest there. Walk in there and then just take the elevator. No big deal. However, In smaller hotels can be a problem cuz the people at check-in have a good memory if you came with someone. So if they catch her bringing someone new, they'll just add it to the bill.
here's some suggested routes from 'nationality' you can take the convo instead of directing it to studies (boring)
-> story of an ex that was from there for preselection. what were the qualities you liked about her/girls from there.
-> or go into a cold read you about girls who are that nationality (and what is it you like about them), like Alex does here in the second LR https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/ump-verbal-game-structure-lrs.22797/
and with traveling. I ask, "have you lived here all your life?" to not limit it to, "traveling for traveling sake" trips, but to also allow me to go in to where she previously lived and compare to the city she presently finds herself in.
You act as if your a guest there. Walk in there and then just take the elevator. No big deal. However, In smaller hotels can be a problem cuz the people at check-in have a good memory if you came with someone. So if they catch her bringing someone new, they'll just add it to the bill.
ya right there at the beginning was a golden opportunity to go there briefly. see how she responds
"ah ok so then we'll only have time for a short but intense romance. i can dig that"
here's some suggested routes from 'nationality' you can take the convo instead of directing it to studies (boring)
-> story of an ex that was from there for preselection. what were the qualities you liked about her/girls from there.
-> or go into a cold read you about girls who are that nationality (and what is it you like about them), like Alex does here in the second LR https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/ump-verbal-game-structure-lrs.22797/
and with traveling. I ask, "have you lived here all your life?" to not limit it to, "traveling for traveling sake" trips, but to also allow me to go in to where she previously lived and compare to the city she presently finds herself in.
Yeah I don’t really have a structure for verbal game, i half the time used canned lines, ‘what do us study/work xyz’’ and improvise them to make them sound interesting,
Ump verbal game structure looks interesting ill check it out and try and implement it as well as SMMA.
yeah i kinda half assed the travel part lol. Should digged deeper into cultural aspect, or even the idea of romance/sex would be interesting comparing how different it is over here
Not the same way as u suggested to do sex talk but if i can get horny about lol it might work haha
Regarding sex talk, would u think this would work?
I open with gun’s ex girlfriend opener and use that as a open loop for sex talk.
Assume that social frame is well established and relatively hooked( leg facing you, asked things about u)
‘’Hey you know... what was interesting...about my you and ex-girlfriend?’
(hook her and get her intrigued thats she is metioned)
‘’she was a very sexual being.. but she never showed that.. side of her.. to anyone else but me’’
‘’she felt completely free with me.. she was afraid of people...judging her authentic self’’
‘’it confuses guys..a lot of guys they thought girls.. should express their sexual interest.. but girls are ridiculed for that ’’
‘’we were both open-minded, she opened up to me..we both loved it.. to be free.. she would explore her sexuality... to another extend with me’
‘’Especially when she loved me.. caressing her hair...gently pulling, kissing and biting her naked body.. teasing her, licking her, penetrate her slowly ...rhythmically, turn her over.. and tie her hands...make her cum uncontrollably’
[you suggested that telling her what you’ll do to her and describe. i’ll stop here with the discribtions or else it will turn into a Wattpat fan fic haha!]
‘’its such a shame.. people don’t get to enjoy that.. people are so ignorant of.. what girl desires.. don’t you agree that.. if you found someone as open-minded life would be much more enjoyable?
‘’i don’t mean by pulling her hair..like your about to pull the strands, ill give you an example ’’
[go into possible kinks to empathise that its ok to show them to me if she does when I pull her for a Lay]
It might be a bit much for the girl to handle, idk whats your opinion? haha
I don't like routines and structure nowadays cuz I prefer freestyling for the most part. but here is my suggestion based on what you just posted:
Me: ''Hey do you know... who do you exactly look like?'' I smile
Me: ''I kid you not.. you look exactly like my ex'' I laugh
Me: actually..you know what? now that I'm looking at you closer. I thought it was the same face. but actually...I think its the vibe you give off.
then go into the vibe in how its similar to your ex.
Me: well she herself was a very sexual girl. had this energy about her. you can feel it when your around her. only that I think only some people can also feel it off her. cuz to others they would see her for someone she was not. and then treat her by the way they perceived her. which she did not like because then she would have to play to that perception of what they thought of her. [let her take in that deep shit].
in my opinion, i think all of us want to be ourselves at the end of the day. and so we really appreciate those who have the ability to see us for who we are. this allows us to relax. like finally i met someone who gets me. you know what I mean?'
like my ex, i knew instantly that she was a naughty fucking girl underneath all the bullshit she presented to the world (truism: all girls are like this lol). so i think she really appreciated that. i can tell you are a super naughty girl *naughty grin*
what is something super naughty you have done. it doesn't have to be sexual. allow her to invest. then go into your naughtiest thing you've done. obvi sexual.
Summary: Life style
Procrastination is a real hurdle to right now. I lack the mental discipline to spend my time on journals and going through theory material, going out is not an issue its that I don't read much on theory as much as I should be. Im considering going out 3-4 times a week, keeping Sat and Sun the same but freeing the spots for Wednesday and Friday for more seduction practice as I found my self going out yesterday(Friday) feels like I had AA all over again which took 1-2 hours to shake it off.
The issue with procrastination stems from 'oh no I can't write my journal because I deserved a down time from school to go on my phone and mentally jerk my self off on YouTube' that is a waste of time unless Im watching seduction related video's and learning.
I have yet to finish listening to SMMA.. so that is also a priority
Maui Thai is a real killer lately. The sparring and clinching is some tough shit. I get knocked all over the place and I had a couple nose bleeds through out the sparring lol. I remember the first time sparring my partner who was the same age as I was threw the cross at the same time and we both knocked each others head back we both had blood running down our noses for a while haha
The learning experience and ultimate goal was to stay relaxed and not flinch or move sporadically( like sudden knee jerk reactions) ... which was difficult. I talked to my coaches about it and he said it will naturally come with time.. ''You can't rush this when you just have started developing your neurological firing pattern'' and he will spare with me more to get the firing patterns right with blocking and reacting ..
my brain subtly reminded my progress with seduction..
I skipped this week lesson because the weather was too cold for my liking but that is just some negative self talk that prevented me from actually going. I ended up mentally jerking my self off with YouTube afterwards again which I should have spend that time of seduction material instead.
I have a lot of mental training to get through but one thing at a time. First I would start with is getting a priority list going then work from there to prevent my self from mentally jerking off to YouTube and get nothing accomplished
Summary: Seduction
Im still approaching religiously as always.
I have been tinkering around with texting and I have received an abundance of advice from lots of people. Im going to try and use icebreakers that are normal as possible to prevent any congruency issues( no more mr pua guy and more normal me) , another is setting up dates in person and confirm it then exchange phone numbers making texting for dates alot easier
I remember in my memories that was something I once did and somewhere along the track forgot about it. I recall the texts I received were a lot more warmer and responsive compared to getting the number then setting up the date over it.
reality pacing isn't something im using alot lately so I'll have to get back into that and I tried a 'few' rainbow ruses, im not sure if i done it correctly so the next outing ill document it for sure on the journal.
I might switch over to calling more often instead of texting since it just feels so much easier and texting should be used for small worded interactions. I don't know thats just my take on the idea of phone calls
ill document(lol) my next outing as recalling them and writing them would be too consuming.
Well I finally written the LRafter 2 weeks haha!.. here lost the V and had a really fun time with her, HBlingerie is her name for the journals
I did my approaches through out the week.. went on a second date with her she insisted. no sex on the second date, she really wanted to fuck she told me in person while she was just bombarding me with physical affection in public.. keeping the sexual energy all day just by messing around with her.. our convo was 70% about fucking each other and 30% meaningful stuff haha!.
the gag was trying to find places to fuck in public, haha
Back on to my approaches.. the state is so much more stable after getting this Lay, im not in the grove for my tehnical game just yet so i'll need fine tune them when I go out more.. Exams are coming up this Friday- next week which i'll be more free to approach after the tedious exams
I swear I need to use RPO's. I keep on neglecting them everytime.
Sexual Confidence is high which feels good.
Bought Skyn Condoms 'Intense feel', a 10 pack. I used some lifestyle condoms and I heard that Skyn condoms were better so there you have it. If that doesn't feel any good then I'll just go raw at the end like I did with HBLingerie ahha
today:
She send me nudes of her self looking good,
text: *photo*
"happy hump daddy day *kissing emoji*
we're are set to meet this Saturday. .
Fog and Darknight adviced me not to over-invest into this girl, keep the dates on my terms and keep on approaching. As I have shown a lot of investment on my end, HAha! I can't deny that... the new horn is going to learn wither he likes it or not
Feels Good Man , we'll keep my approaches updated and the next meet
Edited: 28.5.21
Covid lockdown for 1 week lol.. we got the indian variant so a storm is brewing.. hopefully the lockdown slows the curve
exams pushed back to next week friday
HB still coming this Saturday regardless
Not too bad.. except can’t go approaching due to covid.. not risking it haha
To sum up what has happened. Lock down is uplifted, the holidays is in a week time and I can approach like a mad man again which is great. Went out 2-3 times and approaches were still rusty due to AA and just generally being out of the loop for 2 weeks, finished SMMA and im excited. not looking too good with HBlingerie.
im down bad right now with HBlingerie since I couldn't bang her again in time during the lockdown. 1st objection was on her period which I could have passed now I look at it 2. she had to see a friend who was having a existential crisis which I thought was retarded timing and not only that send a bad chummy text while she is ovulating
She said she would call me that week but that didn't happen and I pinged her on Sun.. she responded on monday and greeted me, she said she was flat out last week( i don't buy it when she had the weekend and a public holiday on monday and she chose the last day to text me) and asked if she should call. I ignored her and i'll ping her on Thurs/Friday, and set up a quick fuck on Sat
Right now im not in a good position, im now an orbiter judging how delayed her response was and it might be a challenge to lock her.
honestly was a pretty bummed out losing her but school holiday is around the corner and I remember I a missed SDL opportunity during those 2 weeks of holiday. If I get lucky I think i'll be able to lay 1 potentially even hotter during this holiday who knows
Seduction:
Finished SMMA which is fantastic, excited with my new gain knowledge and I hope I can ditch the volume game all together and refine all my approaches.
Im struggling with social frame and I have noticed that with my approaches being socially uncalibrated at times. Reminded me off how socially awkward it was for me trying to immerse the girl when my social frame is not existing when we don't 'click' in a matter of minutes.
asked the holy grail general chat and they send out angles: Lofty and Fog came to my aid. Learned a-lot regarding social frame and approaching.
My first step would be to to approach in a very smooth and calibrated way. Then immerse her surrounding of the world. Having attention and immersion locked in in a very smooth and calibrated way.
Going out with all this in mind was relatively difficult in terms of AA, the last time I went out I couldn't approach much I was too stuck in my head own head on 'how can I come off as smooth as possible' which became a mental resistance to approach.
I still have to figure out how I can effectively approach walking sets in a very socially calibrated manner and direct will be the worst option to go with for social frame, at best it'll stir a bit of emotional stimulation if she is already into you but at worst it delivers 0 social frame to work with right off the bat.
Lofty has given me an example of an verbal I could possibly use and learn from:
"Have you ever noticed how the mall is so dead during these hours? It's like something is telling us to go home, but then there's that other part of us that's like, wait, hold on, maybe we should just hang out a little longer you know?" > basic example of immersive social frame-building pace
I'll have to replicate that and adjust it a little bit to fit the circumstances and utilize pre-opening while im at it.
Fog also noted changing accents and names will deliver social frame and using a social reason to keep her interacting with you like. Lofty masterfully crafted this friend 'jada' scenario to keep the interaction going.
But most importantly right now : I want to develop the ability/ skill to pounce the opportunity from an interested girl and approach in a heartbeat in 3 seconds, moving targets even less, It gets really awkward for me If don't approach and builds up on the mental resistance of not approaching at all.
im going for girls who show signs of interest or else that will be pure volume game.
fundamental will be a lot better in 3 months as I'll hit 13% bf. I said I would hit it by June but it was an underestimation of how much fat I have gained over the quarantine lol while bulking . Lost 7.8kg over the course of 3-4 months where I started at 74kg, right now im 'roughly' 18% at 67.2kg on average.
I remember I was 55kg~ back in 2020 Jan and went up to 75kg by the end of 2020. Quarantine hit around march/April and i ate like a pig lol .
I re-calculated all the math, lean body mass, how much weight to lose to hit 13%bf and *blah blah blah* which turns out ill be 60kg with 13%, thinking again with my 'bulk' I gained 5kg of muscle and 15kg of fat... can't regret it now lmao.
losing around 0.625kg-0.5kg(1%-0.5% of your weight is a healthy number to lose weight) per week would be ideal.
Text Game analysis, a phone number I picked up last sunday. Rushed the number as her gf(she a cute blonde lesbian) arrived. I didn't go direct and hit it off with Gun's ex-girlfriend line.
Her: heyyyy( I texted my self that as she didn't show me the number pad and straight into contacts)
Me: have fun with your little date -Nicko
Her: how old are you ( I didn't think we clarified our ages so a fat social frame question)
*I called her she didn’t respond*
Me:im 17, wbu
Her: oh im 16, nearly 17, i thought you were over 18 lol (phew I passed lmao)
her: sorry can’t call
me :Haha its cool, lets call trmw morning 9:30am instead. im a dry texter *sweat emoji on top while laughing*
her: honestly you're nice, But I don't know what you want out of this, and that situation's a bit awkward, I don't think I feel comfortable calling
( asking too much compliance without a high note and the social frame wasn't enough to justify a call lol. I dropped this set as it seems its too difficult to recover from after losing the social frame)
Not much to report on my approaches as they have been wiped from my mind already, Im going buy a voice recorder asap to get some audio infield soon which will be exciting indeed.
Lifestyle:
I have a lot of mental resistance in my head. I'm slacking off on my workouts, took a 'break' from my muay thai gym during lockdown, sleep is a bit out of place but at least im still waking up around 6:00-6:30am to crunch a workout session in.
This resistance is effecting a lot of things and it seeps through my seduction as well it feels like, preventing me from approaching at all.
The only way to defeat this residence is through mental discipline and immediate action. hence I want to develop that trigger finger to approach girls in a heart beat
im 'planning' to incorporate more TRE into my daily life to get my self all relaxed and decrease the overall cortisol in my body and brain. will reap its rewards for the benefits of seduction and general well being.
NIcko when you meet the interaction has to be a stronger, but your texting can be better:
Her: heyyyy( I texted my self that as she didn't show me the number pad and straight into contacts)
her: Who is that cool/handsome/goodlooking guy you are talking to? (whatever you feel more comfortable of the 3)
Me: have fun with your little date -Nicko
Her: how old are you ( I didn't think we clarified our ages so a fat social frame question)
nicko: 69, j/k lets make it fun, why don't you take a guess (69 to bring a sexual element, why don't you take a guess to make her invest in the interaction....
*I called her she didn’t respond*
^ calling is a really bad move at this point that subcommunicates too much interest/desperation.... really bad move...
Me:im 17, wbu
Her: oh im 16, nearly 17, i thought you were over 18 lol (phew I passed lmao)
her: sorry can’t call
me :Haha its cool, lets call trmw morning 9:30am instead. im a dry texter *sweat emoji on top while laughing*
^ If you want to make a call which i would not recommend unless the women is the one requesting it or really invested, i would not call, calling subcummunicates and telegraphs too much interest, specially at beginning stages of interactions were you have no compliance and investment... Keep in at text, just get better at texting...
her: honestly you're nice, But I don't know what you want out of this, and that situation's a bit awkward, I don't think I feel comfortable calling
( asking too much compliance without a high note and the social frame wasn't enough to justify a call lol. I dropped this set as it seems its too difficult to recover from after losing the social frame)
^ this is what it call low odds moves and bad texting.... I did like have fun in your date (cont. of the conversational thread) other than that everything else was really bad executed low odds, game... Also weak interaction pre number...
think subcommunication always pre texting.... Drop the calling please... is a poor man way to no master texting...
outfit: Oversized hoodie , light blue vintage looking worker jacket with a lot of line textures, black cargo pants and a pair of white sneakers. Lots of ioi's I found with this fit. very chill outfit
I firmly believe i'll get a SDL sooner or later in this mall. It closes relatively late and there's still a lot of foot traffic.
Unfortunately Today was not the most productive regarding cold approaching due to AA. I need to re-desensitize my self once more, Im at square 1 one. I found my self choking alot when im in the motion to approach a girl despite the clear Approach Invitations, Holding against my tongue last minute.
I'll look at square 1 as another new opportunity to grow as now im equipped with the knowledge of SMMA.
To me it feels so much more technical and complicated when I have to position my self properly and approach in a certain angle for maximum social frame.
It obstructs my approaches as I have to 'think' more which raises my stress levels/AA and I noticed a pattern of thoughts when im hesitating to approach.
first thought: Ok lets approach, Im ready I feel good about this
Second thought: wait how would I come off? is this smooth enough?
third thought: im over thinking it... now im getting nervous, hearts pumping
fourth thought: negotiation: ''I should or I shouldn't? there's another girl who is more interested, come on!''
fifth: abort approach
My approaches were off today with a low approach count of 6-7 in the span of 2 hours
my tonality is too rapport seeking and its higher pitched then its normally would. It must have to do with my sub-conscious being needy > inner game is weak. I walked around having that linger on me
however after I started prep talking my self and raising my ego ex. ''You the sexiest mf here, look at all those girls throwing ioi's left and right'' then it become reality. ioi's became much more vibrant an my stride is much more natural feeling.
Inner game is underrated, its your sub-conscious belief. ╭( ･ㅂ･)و ̑̑
I have bought the voice recorder, it was a different recorder on my mind as I wanted the Sony ICD-PX470 but i settled for e Sony ICD-BX140 as it was this or the Olyumpus recorder, forgot what was the name. It's disappointing that this one doesn't have a build in usb to easily transfer files over. I'll have to refund this, really annoyed i'll have to online order it now.
I'll look at square 1 as another new opportunity to grow as now im equipped with the knowledge of SMMA.
To me it feels so much more technical and complicated when I have to position my self properly and approach in a certain angle for maximum social frame.
I 100% relate to this haha. I remember after listening to the social frame section and also reading what Bacchus said here, I became really focused on having the optimal approach situation(and I still struggle with this now), but it has definitely become easier over time, and it sorta becomes ingrained in you. I don't always get the eye contact(at least I'm not always aware... and these girls are really fucking sneaky man... I'll look at her shadow or the reflection of a store window on the side and see her checking me out its crazy) but right now I'm focusing on making it look low effort and have her notice me before I open so I don't trigger any fight or flight. The social frame boost is well worth the added difficulty of learning it.
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