163 girls fucked and still think of your 3 months relationship ?

[nolimits]

do you have a full time job? Average of one check every 2.5 days - are you mainly going for SDLs or do you take numbers?

Nowadays numbers. When I lived in Italy and aimed at tourists, it would almost only be SDL

 

[Karea Ricardus D.]

Fascinating thread. Honestly I'm inspired by how hard you're going at this. I never did more than 5-10 approaches per day and never went more than 3 times a week. But a hard push like you're doing is great one-itis remedy.

I think the reason why it hasn't helped you get over her yet is because you haven't met a new girl yet that really thrilled you. You gotta find one that you like as much or more as the one-itis... and the pain will evaporate instantly.

I remember one day hung up on an ex, lying in my bed feeling down... then PING the cell phone beeps and this girl I was totally into had texted me. Just that text cleared the pain totally.

Another time I was so down over a breakup that I spent all day on online dating sites trying to feel better. Picked up a girl on the subway and took her to some street festival where we made out. The moment we kissed the pain was gone completely.

So it's not about sex, or about sex with a huge number of girls... even just a kiss can do it... even a text message can do it. But the new girl has to really thrill you. You have to really like her... as much or more as the one-itis.

The reason the community recommends to go after numbers is just that makes it more likely that you will find a girl who can thrill you, and sooner.

 

[nolimits]

So it's not about sex, or about sex with a huge number of girls... even just a kiss can do it... even a text message can do it. But the new girl has to really thrill you. You have to really like her... as much or more as the one-itis.

Absolutely agree with you. Gotta keep pushing on those fucking streets.

Honestly I'm inspired by how hard you're going at this. I never did more than 5-10 approaches per day and never went more than 3 times a week. But a hard push like you're doing is great one-itis remedy.

Thanks man. It’s always a pleasure to read your post.

still remember your posts in which you shared you’d go out on an afternoon and get 10 numbers. Those were a big inspiration for me at the time and I was like ‘ how can he do that ? ‘

Than I discovered that the fear of being seen by other people or of being a spam approacher are irrational. And started doing the same.

To me nothing is more important than mental health, strength and social skills - and these things mpact your business and your friendship more than anything else, so what better way to invest one’ s time ?

I’m also becoming somewhat invulnerable to rejection which has always been a huge goal of mine and am very curious to where I can take this.


The big lesson for me here is that more women is always the answer.

Talking to 10 girls a day does not work ? Double the amount of prospection. If you have no time for that, talk to more women in the same lap of time.

 

[Karea Ricardus D.]

still remember your posts in which you shared you’d go out on an afternoon and get 10 numbers. Those were a big inspiration for me at the time and I was like ‘ how can he do that ?

Yeah? I'm just reading my old archives again, I don't think I ever got more than 3-5 numbers a day. But in a few weeks that adds up to like 25 new digits in the phone and suddenly you have a date every free night of the week. Or two dates a night to prevent flake issues.

To me nothing is more important than mental health, strength and social skills - and these things mpact your business and your friendship more than anything else, so what better way to invest one’ s time ?

That's such a good point. I've definitely developed a bit of an inner game block where I've been feeling guilty about going out to game. I can't even fathom these days how much time I took to pound the pavement back in the day.

These days I always have a bad conscience. Should be working... so much to do. That's when my health even cooperates... that situation is still FUBAR. You make a good case though, for prioritizing game regardless... because it will positively affect the business. I absolutely agree.

I’m also becoming somewhat invulnerable to rejection which has always been a huge goal of mine and am very curious to where I can take this.

Yeah I had that too after a while. A girl rejects and instead of feeling bad, the mind goes "wow this girl has no idea."

I was out with another Elder one day (nightgamer) and he commented on a hot girl walking down the street... I went: "your set or mine?" And he froze up with fear! I was like "wow, I remember that feeling. Haven't had that in a while!", and went and opened.

Unfortunately this is not a permanent transformation in my experience but based on momentum. Even just a few months without game and AA would come back. But then a couple of weeks of going out and it's gone again.

The big lesson for me here is that more women is always the answer.

Yes. There was a time when I told guys, abundance is basically the cure all. If you just play way higher numbers, everything else will sort itself out. Confidence goes up, vibe improves, even outer game stuff handles itself as you intuitively always do and say the right things.

I would just add one caveat, this is only true for guys who have their vibe in the right place. There's some guys going around hitting on literally thousands of sets with direct openers and not getting nearly anything.

I believe that is called "autism", not "abundance". Should build up momentum in other ways first.

P.S. - Enjoying your posts here, good stuff.

 

[HoofHearted]

Should build up momentum in other ways first.

This linked post is one of the most realistic things I've read. 10/10 glad I popped back in here

 

[nolimits]

Even just a few months without game and AA would come back. But then a couple of weeks of going out and it's gone again.

Yeah I agree. What I like to do after periods of less intense activity is to hire a coach to force me to approach every girl. It just speeds things up.

There was a time when I told guys, abundance is basically the cure all. If you just play way higher numbers, everything else will sort itself out. Confidence goes up, vibe improves, even outer game stuff handles itself as you intuitively always do and say the right things.

Exactly. When you got quantity handled everything else improves even if you stop analyzing and reading. Because that work of analyzing will be done by your subconscious .

For instance - I am struggling to get over my crazy ex ‘ ‘girlfriend ‘’ but I’m positive that quantity is what will get the job done, in this instance too. Quantity beats quality and it leads to it.

would just add one caveat, this is only true for guys who have their vibe in the right place. There's some guys going around hitting on literally thousands of sets with direct openers and not getting nearly anything.

Of course. If and only if you have a keen social sense ( you’re a pretty cool or even super cool guy ) quantity is all that matters. As chase once said ‘ attraction is either there or it isn’t ‘

Yeah those guys you’re referring to are for sure autists.

Enjoying your posts here, good stuff.

Thanks brother. means a lot since your articles have been a big inspiration for me

Ps : for those wondering of the 40 yo one itis chick , she is a crazy girl. Going through the articles about crazy women on the blog she has most of the signals . And I decided to ignore them.

This is a big sticking point I’m going through and am starting to get a handle on.

Select the relationship candidate well ( avoid instable crazy girls ) for relationships.

And also next time you choose a girlfriend invest very little.

I’m a strong guy but in all of my past relationships have never done that much actively to minimize my investment in the girl and maximize hers in you.

Again - In a way the quantity of experiences that I’ve had IS what helps learn these lessons even for relationships, not just for pickup (selecting better girls, get them to invest, minimize your investment) in a visceral way.

I’m also curious of your take @Karea Ricardus D. on women’s fidelity and in general on unilateral monogamy.

Always keep pushing,
There ain’t NoLimits

 

[Karea Ricardus D.]

Quantity beats quality and it leads to it.

Well put.

As chase once said ‘ attraction is either there or it isn’t ‘

Personally, I'm more of the green light - yellow light - red light persuasion, as opposed to the binary "attracted / not attracted". I wrote about this a bit here, was a big insight for me one day.

As a so-so looking guy, most game for me is yellow lights and I favor indirect game for that reason when possible. For direct though, I think the binary view is mostly true.

I'll say I have flipped red lights to green on direct openers sometimes, but only when the girl was stationary (stuck at a red pedestrian traffic light for example) so I could plow a bit and show non-reactiveness to her IODs, then they can still flip. A direct walking set IOD is usually gone.

This is a big sticking point I’m going through and am starting to get a handle on.
Select the relationship candidate well ( avoid instable crazy girls ) for relationships.
And also next time you choose a girlfriend invest very little.

Have you read my stuff about "managing expectations" vs. "managing emotions"? I think it's in my relationship series in my signature.

The gist is that to avoid falling in love (her or you - both are a problem if she's not a serious candidate), you have to spend less time than most guys do and it doesn't become an issue. No sleep overs.

Meet less than weekly, once every 10 days is good. Meeting every week is okay for about 3-4 months, then girls get attached and give the ultimatum.

I’m a strong guy but in all of my past relationships have never done that much actively to minimize my investment in the girl and maximize hers in you.

Also keep in mind you want to calibrate this. If she's proven herself, you want to stop holding back too much or she'll get so insecure that it'll turn you off and you start losing all attraction for her. That can become a serious problem too.

I’m also curious of your take @Karea Ricardus D. on women’s fidelity

It's a good question man. I think both men and women are hardwired to cheat. For women that's usually the case during her ovulation. There's a bunch of interesting books I could recommend on the subject.

So I guess if you want to have a long-term relationship and be sure your girl is faithful, your main screening criteria should be "virtue". Meaning she will feel the urge to cheat as we all do biologically but she won't do it because it's against her values totally (like you wouldn't steal or kill).

I believe those girls do exist... I believe even guys like that exist and our drives are stronger than women's. But not easy to find and you won't find them on the apps or in clubs obviously. But you're a daygamer so you're likely to run into some of them.

In the thread I started about changes in the game over the past 10 years, the consensus seemed to be that game isn't harder, but since girls have more options on the phone, flakes are a bigger problem than before (with workarounds like video messages).

I suspect a second change in the SMP that phones have caused is the fidelity issue. There's just more temptation for women these days... which is fine on a normal day but if she's ovulating, and you just had a fight with her, and she's drunk, and some hunk sends a smooth text, it might be an issue.

So I guess a girl who's not into social media would be a plus just like you'd want a girl who's not into clubbing.

2c.

and in general on unilateral monogamy.

Not something I have much experience with... most the time I was spinning too many plates to worry about them being faithful, I didn't really care. I was always using condoms though.

It was basically on a "don't ask don't tell" basis. All relationships were implicitly open, with frames (set very early on in the first interaction) like "I like being single" and "I don't like jealous people" and "clingy people are a turn-off".

On the few occasions when I fell in love and wanted them to be faithful, I didn't mind normal monogamy either. Sometimes I realized later that having sexual freedom without ending the relationship would be nice but by then the frames were obviously totally fucked.

So I'm not the best person to ask. I've done one-sided open in those situations but it was always more drama than it was worth. Needs to be set up the right way from the start, or not at all.

You'll want to talk to @Chase about that, he's the master at this topic! I'm sure he has articles about it.

 

[nolimits]

On the few occasions when I fell in love and wanted them to be faithful, I didn't mind normal monogamy either. Sometimes I realized later that having sexual freedom without ending the relationship would be nice but by then the frames were obviously totally fucked.

Appreciate all of your takes as always.

On a side note,and this question is for about everyone who loves analyzing stuff, do you think that if you have a business that’s growing, quite a bit of value overall, you can lose girls as potential girlfriends because of your not so cool apartment ?

I am doing pretty fucking well financially and have different sorts of value that can be considered good for a boyfriend candidate ( which I always make sure to display subtly and mainly after I banged the girl ). But I am wondering wether my apartment that isn’t the coolest might lose me potential girlfriends. Or does it simply protect you from gold diggers ?

The apartment Looks like a bachelor pad and it gets the job done for banging chicks so that ain’t that bad

Keep in mind I’m 30 and make more money than about 90% of the people in my country so … money isn’t the issue and my lifestyle is cool.


I also always make sure I tell girls I am aware the apartment sucks and that my goal is to change it asap.

I’m just not sure this apartment thing is losing me potential girlfriends or simply protecting me from gold diggers.

I would guess the apartment isn’t an issue because most of the girls I fuck I can potentially keep.

I know it’s an issue - as my personality and lifestyle might be as well - whenever I want to retain girls that are over 35.
Before u guys ask, I kind of like older girls during these time in my life where (at least for now ) children aren’t a goal.

curious of your take guys!

 

[ProblemSolving]

The apartment Looks like a bachelor pad and it gets the job done for banging chicks so that ain’t that bad

Your apartment won't prevent a girl from banging you, but it definitely affects your retention.

I used to really struggle with retaining girls and I could never quite put my finger on the cause despite some girls hinting at it. They would say stuff like, "Oh wow, it looks like you just moved in." Then I would reply with, "Nope, I've lived here for 7 years lol".

One made fun of my tiny laptop screen while we were watching a movie, saying, "I don't know how you watch anything on that thing. It's painful." I thought she was just teasing me, so I just ignored it.

I finally had a sugar momma make it abundantly clear to me, "I can't keep coming back here to fuck you in a place like this. I'm buying you a new TV and bringing you into the 21st century."

She went out and bought me a huge flat screen TV, and then paid a bunch of movers to move her old furniture into my place because she was buying new furniture for her bedroom anyway. When everything was moved in, she breathed a huge sigh of relief and said, "Aaaaahh, I can finally be comfortable in this place."

It was a total game changer after that. Before the only girls that I would retain were ones that lived in dormitories and were used to watching movies on laptops or the few girls that didn't own a TV. After getting the TV, I no longer had problems with retention.

I now understand the pain these girls were going through by having to watch anything on that tiny monitor. It is painful once you are used to big screens.

You might still be skeptical, so I'll put it this way. When you invite a girl over for sex, she gets about 1 hour of intense orgasms on average, but what about all the hours spent at your pad NOT having sex? If those hours suck, good luck getting her back for more.

Just think about how much it would suck when your best friend invites you over to his place to watch a movie, but his TV is black and white. He might be the best guy in the world, but you still won't want to hang out at his place for very long.

It's about having a relatable lifestyle. It's the reason all your closest friends growing up had similar living situations as your own.

 

[HoofHearted]

I'm glad to see a response that was more on topic than i could give. No place i have lived has ever slowed the girls down, even when idgaf and didnt have furniture. It seemed to fortify my eccentric, artistic nature to these women.

The angle I would hit is, having a nice place, a quiet place that's clean for recovering from the stresses of life, physical and mental... is not often mentioned. Lots of times guys make do and laugh. Guys are functional. Other times, a not so great place just to impress.

But having a restful, nice place to recover has done wonders for my vibe and well being. I've been talking a lot about momentum these days and it feels like suuuuuchhhh a solid base for momentum. It makes my mind different. And it has helped GREATLY in getting women in that way.

But that's a sideways angle, i guess, and not really what you asked.

 

[Skills]

Appreciate all of your takes as always.

On a side note,and this question is for about everyone who loves analyzing stuff, do you think that if you have a business that’s growing, quite a bit of value overall, you can lose girls as potential girlfriends because of your not so cool apartment ?

I am doing pretty fucking well financially and have different sorts of value that can be considered good for a boyfriend candidate ( which I always make sure to display subtly and mainly after I banged the girl ). But I am wondering wether my apartment that isn’t the coolest might lose me potential girlfriends. Or does it simply protect you from gold diggers ?

The apartment Looks like a bachelor pad and it gets the job done for banging chicks so that ain’t that bad

Keep in mind I’m 30 and make more money than about 90% of the people in my country so … money isn’t the issue and my lifestyle is cool.


I also always make sure I tell girls I am aware the apartment sucks and that my goal is to change it asap.

I’m just not sure this apartment thing is losing me potential girlfriends or simply protecting me from gold diggers.

I would guess the apartment isn’t an issue because most of the girls I fuck I can potentially keep.

I know it’s an issue - as my personality and lifestyle might be as well - whenever I want to retain girls that are over 35.
Before u guys ask, I kind of like older girls during these time in my life where (at least for now ) children aren’t a goal.

curious of your take guys!

I disagree with @ProblemSolving i loved my little apt. It was the easiest to pull one in the home nothing but a bed... my go to frame is i am a minimalist and i rent the other part of the house... i am over 45 and i was dating all types of girls even successful.... however my apt was really cool, clean and comfortable... women use it as a gateaway, escape, their words not mine.... 0 issues, i use to love watching movies on the laptop with them i would put the laptop on the bed and spoon me in the back... retation as i sound like a broken record comes down to the 3 fuck rule 0 and i mean 0 to do with place to live..

 

[nolimits]

retation as i sound like a broken record comes down to the 3 fuck rule 0 and i mean 0 to do with place to live..

This has always been my take too. Especially if it’s clear that you’re aware that your apartment isn’t ‘ amazing ‘ you just have other places where you like to put your money in.

I had a lot of girls ask me ‘ how can you live here ?!’

But then they stay and keep seeing me if I so desire.

come to think of it I might have only lost one partly because of my apartment , and still - I’m not sure that was the reason.

It might actually be an anti gold diggers/ superficial girls defense

But it is a topic that’ s worth discussing.

 

[nolimits]

He might be the best guy in the world, but you still won't want to hang out at his place for very long.

In that case I’d just go watch the game in a bar or a cafe with him or simply meet him not at his place which is what I do anyway ( I don’t like being home and in general, indoor time is always minimized for I feel it does not help mental health )

 

[nolimits]

Aaaaahh, I can finally be comfortable in this place."

Yeah but she stayed anyway. Over 40’ s girls might be the exception to the your apartment doesn’t matter rule however. But I’d bet that much likely they’ll stay if your frame is solid.

 

[Mr.SocialAcceptableHarem]

@nolimits
Something I've learned recently, boundaries are really important.

To me at least it would be degrading to go back to her considering the way she dumped you. That's a boundary right there, I don't let people into my life who disrespect me like that.

How she reconnected to you, she didn't apologize to you in any way or explain her actions, things that any considerate person would do.

On top of that, you said she was going through a divorce right? That shows that she has had at least one dysfunctional relationship in the past, she said men are disappointing in her text to you. That shows she's not getting along with other men in her life. Red flags. Her history recommends that she won't be able to give you a healthy relationship.

Attachments suck when they are with toxic people. I've had toxic relationships or met toxic girls where I got too attached. In that situation, it's important to see the situation objectively. Weigh your emotions and your actions and their emotions and actions, see the connections and then make your decision as how to proceed.

It seems like she just wants the sex but you want something more. If you could emotionally detach yourself from her and stoop to her level of just sex, things could work. But I don't know if that's possible for you, it's something almost impossible for everyone.

Hope this helps.

P.S. you probably already realized a lot of what I have said, I see that just based off reading the replys

 

[nolimits]

Hey man,

thanks for your answer.
You are right on that, I just needed that last confirmation where I knew I had given it my all for this girl ( in a classy way not desperate ) so I could go ‘ well i gave it my all, she did not want any of that’ I am a good looking, pretty wealthy, good with words playboy (with a heart I’d add ) so if a girl does not want me in that case, I’m out.

One question :

To keep you up to date guys, i have seen this chick two times since my last post and will probably see her a last time in 2 days.

I think I will give her a considerate ultimatum, after fucking her well.

she sometimes ‘ says ‘ she wants to be free but then she fucks with me and tells me she likes me a lot etc.

Since I have split with this chick she went on tinder, and doing some party.

I guess the ultimatum might not work - most of you will say ‘ she is the one who needs to ask for the relationship, you will look desperate ‘

to which I answer, really ?

because i tucked 18 girls since we split and I feel like if i fucked 1800 girls I would still be putting the ultimatum.

it comes from a position of ‘ please follow your dreams girl if you want to get other dicks apart from mine ‘ and not from a ‘ please don’t fuck other men, I will never replace you ‘

of course I like this girl, which is why I want to give her the considerate ultimatum.

but if - as I suppose - she won’t accept it, at least I know she is officially crazy.

a normal girl accepts excitingly a quality guy ah wants her.

what do you guys think ?

plus if I don’t ultimatum her, she might go get other dicks which is a no thanks for me…

All of the veterans opinion here would be cool to have especially the masters like

@Ka Ricardus D.

Thanks guys !

 

[DoWhatWorks]

TLDR: By rushing to get her sexual commitment, you're reducing your chances of getting what you want.

The choice is yours but 99% of the top guys here will tell you an ultimatum is not a good idea. While (no-disrespect intended) the less experienced guys would vouch for ultimatums.

Long Answer:

she sometimes ‘ says ‘ she wants to be free

Of course she does... She's just come out a divorce, come on man we've discussed this already

but then she fucks with me and tells me she likes me a lot etc.

This is a good sign, means what you're doing is working. Don't read into it too much though, it's just how she feels in that moment and just as easily her emotions can change the other way. Keep being chill and let her suck herself in.

Since I have split with this chick she went on tinder, and doing some party.

Again no surprise she wants to be single links to the original point above...Her actions & words are being consistent but you're hanging on to when she says she likes you a lot because you're focusing on what you want to see and not what's actually there

I guess the ultimatum might not work

100% won't. At best she'll go along with it temporarily before feeling suffocated and ending things with you or at worse she'll fuck other guys and just not tell you. The middle ground believe it or not is she dumps you.

Speaking from experience where a current FB told me she ended it with a guy who said she couldn't see her if she was fucking other guys.

With girls fresh from breakups you get them by attrition. Other guys (like you're doing now) ask for too much too soon and you end up being the solid guy who's left.

I guess the ultimatum might not work - most of you will say ‘ she is the one who needs to ask for the relationship, you will look desperate ‘

to which I answer, really ?

The difference in a way a girl has treated me when she pushed for commitment vs me has been night and day. Give her the gift of feeling like she "earnt you".

because i tucked 18 girls since we split and I feel like if i fucked 1800 girls I would still be putting the ultimatum

You have oneitus so the number of girls you've slept with is irrelevant. For whatever reason you struggle to find and keep a girl like this around which is why you're so hung up on this one. Fix that root issue before throwing ultimatums to this girl.

Guys advised you to get a rotation and all you've done is slept with more girls. Retain x2 more girls her caliber & see if you feel the same way

I am a good looking, pretty wealthy, good with words playboy (with a heart I’d add )

Let me ask you this... Would a guy who fits your description be trying to lock a 40 yr old woman down to be sexually exclusive to him OR would girls be begging to be sexually exclusive to him?

That will guide you to how you should act.

With girls frame is everything. Her perceptions of you are based on her actions. I've hooked up with girls who thought I was a player when I'd been in a drought and girls who thought I was needy when I was running 4+ girl rotations. She's acting this way because of how you're acting.

I go in more detail in my calibration post

My prediction is you won't listen because your emotions will get in the way *shrugs* (I've been there)

 

[nolimits]

TLDR: By rushing to get her sexual commitment, you're reducing your chances of getting what you want.

The choice is yours but 99% of the top guys here will tell you an ultimatum is not a good idea. While (no-disrespect intended) the less experienced guys would vouch for ultimatums.

Long Answer:



Of course she does... She's just come out a divorce, come on man we've discussed this already



This is a good sign, means what you're doing is working. Don't read into it too much though, it's just how she feels in that moment and just as easily her emotions can change the other way. Keep being chill and let her suck herself in.



Again no surprise she wants to be single links to the original point above...Her actions & words are being consistent but you're hanging on to when she says she likes you a lot because you're focusing on what you want to see and not what's actually there



100% won't. At best she'll go along with it temporarily before feeling suffocated and ending things with you or at worse she'll fuck other guys and just not tell you. The middle ground believe it or not is she dumps you.

Speaking from experience where a current FB told me she ended it with a guy who said she couldn't see her if she was fucking other guys.

With girls fresh from breakups you get them by attrition. Other guys (like you're doing now) ask for too much too soon and you end up being the solid guy who's left.



The difference in a way a girl has treated me when she pushed for commitment vs me has been night and day. Give her the gift of feeling like she "earnt you".


You have oneitus so the number of girls you've slept with is irrelevant. For whatever reason you struggle to find and keep a girl like this around which is why you're so hung up on this one. Fix that root issue before throwing ultimatums to this girl.

Guys advised you to get a rotation and all you've done is slept with more girls. Retain x2 more girls her caliber & see if you feel the same way


Let me ask you this... Would a guy who fits your description be trying to lock a 40 yr old woman down to be sexually exclusive to him OR would girls be begging to be sexually exclusive to him?

That will guide you to how you should act.

With girls frame is everything. Her perceptions of you are based on her actions. I've hooked up with girls who thought I was a player when I'd been in a drought and girls who thought I was needy when I was running 4+ girl rotations. She's acting this way because of how you're acting.

I go in more detail in my calibration post

My prediction is you won't listen because your emotions will get in the way *shrugs* (I've been there)

Thx brother for the detailed answer.

by reading it, it honestly feels completely on oint with the situation.

So basically the only solution here is keep fucking her, let her do her party and tinder and see what happens in a month or two ?


would you ask about how her nights went / is she seeing other people, or not at all ?

like how do you handle her remarks if she says ‘ I went on a date last week (but theSucks your dick 10 minutes later ?

If so how often would you see her ( twice a week, once a month ) and would you only see her if it’s her who asks you ?

Or is she going to want to get other dicks for another 5 years ?

Of course here the mental switch is ‘ I’ll go get different girls’ instead of ‘ I’ll see if I can get this specific one to commit ‘

As for the rotation, I’ll try to add on or 2 girls to it, without being overly picky. Because now even a top model does not compare in my brain - which is FUCKED up.

Anyway, I think this will be a moment of growth for me. My confidence at the end of this story will be built on solid basis and not on pie in the sky stuff.

 

[DoWhatWorks]

So basically the only solution here is keep fucking her, let her do her party and tinder and see what happens in a month or two ?

Yes. Rather then a month or two be prepared for it to take 6-12 months.

There’s also no guarantees she may go back to her husband or go mono with someone else.

Just part of the game but that’s the highest odds play to get what you want.

would you ask about how her nights went / is she seeing other people, or not at all ?

I personally wouldn’t ask unless she tells me. Also reading between the lines I think you knowing what she gets up to may be too much for you to bear but at the same time great for your learning curve.

Just see this as an opportunity to develop your game.

Good luck with it all we all get hit with oneitus now and again... All that matters is how you act in spite of it

 

[nolimits]

Good luck with it all we all get hit with oneitus now and again... All that matters is how you act in spite of it

Yeah… will hopefully be last time

Yes. Rather then a month or two be prepared for it to take 6-12 months.

yeah… reading this makes me think I would rather disappear. Still haven’t chosen yet but might really to do that.

simply disappearing with no ultimatum and if she asks you tell her : I want you to be free and follow your dreams.

6 months and not even being sure I’ll get her sounds crazy to me.