Day 9
02/20/2016
Been thinking about the choices I've been making in life lately, and starting to wonder to myself if I really have what it takes to become a master...or whether or not I really want to. I want to be charismatic and good with women, sure, but upon reflection I think I've started to realize that one of my main priorities is finding the emotional satisfaction of a really great girlfriend. Perhaps I should focus my efforts in cold approach to be able to find her first, but then I'll need to learn to manage a relationship, which is a totally different skillset. Need to think about this further. I'll try meditating tonight.
Anyway, had a pretty decent day. I actually made a new friend, which was a totally pleasant surprise. I finally got to tackling Day 7 of the
Newbie Assignment as well. Been discovering that, wow, I really enjoy being in social environments a lot more than I used to. I thought I was an introvert. Maybe I was just shy? I suppose we'll see in time.
To start off with, I went to check out the nearby park at 12 PM. Mostly families, not many women by themselves. Not that great of a location. Then I went ahead and drove to a popular mall, which worked out much better. There were lots of cute women, many by themselves, both in the stores and out. I'm not sure how I'd approach in the food court where girls are mainly sitting and often with people, but it could be another option for me.
So anyways, I started off the outing great. While I was a bit shy as I entered, and passed up several beautiful women because I wasn't sure how to approach them in the out-of-the-way areas they were in, I eventually found my balls again. First approached this cute latina, and gave her a simple opener: "Hey, stop for a second...I just saw you walking there, and wanted to come tell you that you look gorgeous today."
She seemed disinterested and about to move on, so I bid her adieu with Chase's suggestion. "Anyway, that's all I wanted to say. Have a nice day!"
Girl
(1), check. I feel like I don't catch women's attention or attraction enough, since by looking at them they don't seem interested in what I have to say when it's still pre-opener. Sounds like it's necessary to improve my fundamentals. What if I started going to the gym more often?
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Don't remember if I approached another girl within ten minutes of the previous one. I vaguely recall something of that nature, but don't remember it clearly enough to say it actually happened. However, I did approach this big woman who I wasn't particularly attracted to but had a great set of colorful hair and I wanted to compliment her. Did not count her in though because she wasn't attractive and I wasn't stating that I was attracted to her.
Then approached this older Asian woman, who looked around her mid 30s. She had this really vibrant and eye-catching set of red pants and purse, which I went ahead to compliment her on. "Hey...I just saw you over there and I wanted to come tell you that I really like your look...the red pants and red purse make it really stand out."
It was an alright compliment, didn't go into too much detail, but it was a solid try at genuine interest. If I was to change anything, I'd probably make it more clear that I thought she looked attractive, like by saying, "It makes you look pretty gorgeous" at the end or something of that nature. Girl
(2), check.
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Anyways, after that I started walking around the stores. Made some brief conversation with the people that wanted to help me out, as well as this one girl with an adorable 2-month husky. That interaction might be really worth analyzing, so let's take a look.
"Hey, stop for a second," I called out as I got close to the girl. "Is that a husky?"
"Yeah," she replied. I asked a few questions, like how old it was (2 months; it was crazy big for a puppy!), what its name and gender was, etc. I think she got kind of uncomfortable by this point because some stranger had walked up to talk to her about her puppy, which she probably had already gotten plenty of questions about. I'd be pretty tired of talking about it in her position. She was sort of cute, but not that much. Still, perhaps I should've asked about her. She particularly seemed uncomfortable when I introduced myself and asked for her name. Was the interaction going to go anywhere anyways? I think maybe I should've established an attraction to her that would've gotten her more interested early on. She then started moving and left, and I didn't stop her, so that was that.
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The next girl I recall approaching was this tall, Indian girl who looked pretty cute. I went with my standard. I come up from behind her, run for a little bit to catch up so I'm by her side, tap her elbow to pre-open, and follow up with "Hey." I think, however, I have a tendency to pre-open while I'm still behind a girl, which might be startling. I should run up a little in front of her and then pre-open from the side instead so she has a chance to see me.
I then told her, "I saw you over there and I wanted to come tell you that you look really cute today. I'm Alex."
She was really quiet, but her name started with an 'S' and was vaguely snake-like. In fact, as I looked at her eyes and facial structure, I was reminded of a snake. All of which were pretty weird. I bid her adieu with the standard "Anyways, that's all I wanted to say. Have a nice day."
Again, I believe I should fix my farewell line. I should end with "It was great to meet you, X," which I've used a couple times, but instinctually don't. Also, I should introduce myself to everyone I meet and compliment as fast as possible.
Girl
(3), check.
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Sometime after this, while walking down the food court, I saw this buff guy with cool tattoos. I figured, hey, this guy looks pretty cool, I'm going to tell him, "Hey, I like your look. You seem like a badass."
I wasn't as familiar or comfortable with giving genuine compliments to men, but this guy appreciated it. In fact, I actually sat down with him and got to know him a bit. He mentioned an interest in the arts, working out, social interactions, self-improvement, retail, school, raves, shoes, etc., each of which I tried to practice deep diving on. It was slightly weird for me because I rarely deep dive guys and have it in my mind as a tool for women, but I know it works in guy talk too. Did something I don't usually do here, and that's relate my life experiences to what he's saying to build that connection.
Also got his phone number pretty early on, which was also a bit ironic and weird for me. I get my first phone number, and guess what? It's not even a girl's. Not going to count this guy in my goal checklist, but I feel good knowing I made a cool friend.
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Later I saw a girl, and when my angle of approach didn't go as planned, I hesitated, then gave up and moved on. However, as I thought about it, I got frustrated that I let her go just because my angle wasn't perfect, so I went right back to find her. Instead I saw a different girl and went to approach her.
"Hey, stop for a second...I just saw you walking there," I began. She seemed suspicious and made a little "Yeah," like she expected me to try and sell her something.
"And I wanted to come tell you that you look really cute today. I'm Alex," I finished. She actually looked pleasantly surprised and started smiling, so I suppose I broke her expectations? In retrospect, she gave me her name and I definitely got the vibe that she liked the compliment, so maybe I really should've stayed a little longer to continue the interaction. Damn.
Girl
(4), check.
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Left the mall then, went to the nearby street and shopping area, which was also fairly popular. Along the way I encountered a salesgirl who tried to sell me moisturizer products. I was put off by it, and despite her efforts, refused to really listen or give in to her frame because I was afraid she might make me buy her product. I feel like that was how it might've felt to be a girl when a guy was trying to pick her up. She persisted, she insisted her frame, and continued trying to get me to do what she wanted, just as the guy would when he's pulling a girl. I think that I should take her as an example to how I should be when pulling a girl. Here's a few things I noticed her doing:
1) Compliance. She told me to hold out my hand so she could stroke it with her product. Also brings in touch and sensuality, which might led to sexuality. Several times she also asked me to do other things.
2) Frame Control and Yes Ladder. She had this frame that her product would be excellent for me, I wanted X and Y, etc. and pushed it on me that her product would be great. I didn't really know how to object or retake control of the frame, and she kept asking questions that pressured me to answer "yes." I knew that if I kept conceding to her frame by saying "yes" I'd lose, so I just stopped responding. Perhaps I could've broken her out of it by staring at her intensely and shifting the frame to something else, like a personal topic by saying, "You have beautiful eyes..."
3) Us v.s. World, more frames. My primary objection was that I didn't have the money, so she countered by offering me a discount. I kept refusing so she eventually lowered it to a 66% percent discount, which was probably a good deal, but I didn't know enough about the product to invest my funds in it so I refused to buy. However, as I continued my objection she kept countering and creating the frame that she was on my side, wanted to help me, etc. It would be very effective in winning me over to trust in her if I wasn't seeing what was going on!
Now I get what Chase means by Sales having commonalities with Pickup! I should definitely look into being smooth like this salesgirl.
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So I finally was able to get to the nearby shopping plaza/area. I had grown a bit insecure because I realized one of the primary fundamentals that was messing me up: my complexion. The salesgirl earlier pointed out I had some problems with my face, which I realized must've been lowering my attraction. Girls with acne and facial problems tend to turn me off, so it's probably the same for girls. Moreover, all the hottest guys and girls I see or know of tend to have pretty clean faces with good complexions. This is a problem that's definitely going to jump up in priority.
Regardless, I was determined to at least be social. So I walked into a couple of stores, gave a genuine compliment to a couple guys, made small talk, and just tried to keep going. Eventually I went to the Pinkberry in the center and stood in line next to this cute girl. I opened her situationally since I didn't know how to go direct while standing next to her in line already. "Hey, do you know what's good here?" I asked. It was a real question too; I had never been to Pinkberry and wanted to know more.
She replied with her opinion, and I just took it with a smile and a few lines of small talk. I think I should've asked for her name, how her day was going, etc. too, but it felt awkward to delve deeper when my opener was so on the surface like that. Perhaps I should've opened more directly and been clear about my interest so it would be more natural to ask her questions to get to know her.
Anyway, made pals with the guy at the register. I tried to be warm, friendly, and bring some energy. I think I made an impression since he had a very friendly reaction as well, and in retrospect I realize I treated him like a friend even though we just met. I should up that and start treating the people I meet like my best friend (really warmly), instead of just a friend (just warmly).
The girl then brought me my order, and called me out to snap me out of my funk while I was thinking. I recovered though, and noticed her staying at the counter for a little bit while I got my order so I took the opportunity to compliment her, "Hey, before you go...I really like your nose piercings. They make you stand out."
She enjoyed the compliment, but I forgot to introduce myself. It felt like it would be strange when we had a worker-customer precedent going on. Is there any way to take away that frame and set a more personal one? Possibly by introducing myself. Damn.
Anyway, we talked for a little bit about it, and at the very end I commented, "Yeah, they make you look really cute" and bid her adieu. I think I might have said, "It was great to meet you," but I don't remember.
I suppose that counts at genuine interest girl
(5), right?
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Then I don't remember if I approached any more girls at that area or the mall. I chickened out on quite a few, actually, especially ones when the girl was with a friend. I should research on how to handle that scenario.
Started driving home, but went to Trader Joe's on my way back. I figured I probably could make an excuse that I wanted to buy something, but I really just wanted to approach a girl. However, when I got there I chickened out and made excuses that the girls weren't very cute (which most of them weren't). Some also looked like under 18 teenagers, which made me nervous because I felt like I would be a creep. Still forgetting that I'm under 18 myself.
Instead I talked to an old woman next to me and the cashier, had a little bit of fun and tried to be warm and friendly. Definitely a lot easier to be social, and I'm starting to get how to be social with everyone. I think I'll try to make a habit of it by doing it all the time every day.
After that went to get a haircut. Had a conversation with the hairstylist there, though there was a bit of a language barrier. However, I did deep dive a little bit. Let's take a look at the topics we covered...
Family, school, origin.
Hmm, it was a surprisingly long conversation for only three topics. At least 15 minutes. Well then, what else could we have talked about? I could asked about...
Dreams, travelling, hobbies, food, her culture and experiences, etc. Lots of stuff. Man, I've gotta keep these things in mind so I don't blank out and let the conversation run off because I feel like I don't know what to say. It happens far to often.
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Went to Chipotle to get dinner after that, chatted a bit with the workers there. Gave another genuine compliment, but this time to a classmate of mine who happened to also be there. We'll call her W.
"Hey, I love your hair, W," I said.
She smiled. "Yeah, a lot of people have been commenting on it."
"Can I see?" I asked. To my surprise, she actually invited me to touch her hair. Wow, so this was compliance! Great!
"It's definitely this unusual color...purple? I almost didn't recognize you," I continued.
"Yeah, that and blue." Don't recall if she said anything other than that, but it might have been somewhat self-deprecating, which prompted my next response.
"Well, W, it's really unique and makes you stand out," I said. She gave a thank you, but I continued to my finish by being a bit more explicit about what I thought. "Yeah, you look pretty."
We continued chatting for a little bit, but I didn't know what else to say. What could I have asked her about? What could we have talked about? Let's figure it out.
I could've asked about her break, and what she was doing. Then tried to find out more about what her answers were, how she did whatever activities they were, and why she was doing them. Also could've talked about what she wanted to do after we came back to school, her dreams, stuff she didn't do but wanted to, regrets, etc. Definitely not homework; that's the most boring topic I can think of. But lots of deep dive potential. There definitely is so much we can talk about that I just don't think about in the moment.
Anyway, I bid her farewell because I didn't know what else to talk about.
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Along the way to my car I saw this pretty girl, and while she was walking towards me, I stood in front of her and slightly to the side. I think this position might be good because I wasn't directly in front of her, which is intimidating, and was slightly on the side instead. Furthermore, I was still facing her which would catch her attention.
I stopped her by saying, "Hey, stop for a second...I just saw you walking there and wanted to come tell you that you were ge-gorgeous today."
I stumbled over my words because I started saying some gibberish rather than gorgeous, but I think it came off as a genuine compliment. Hopefully. She was happy about it and thanked me. I told her to have a nice day. Should've introduced myself again, stopped her from continuing and getting the interaction to continue?
Girl
(6), check.
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Then I went home and the outing was over. There was something else I noticed: I'm nervous when I approach, and often talk fast. It doesn't seem to impede understanding, but it definitely doesn't show relaxation. I need to focus on talking slower when I open and have a conversation.
Definitely did well on this genuine interest day.
Newbie Assignment Day 7, complete!