College Women and Men in their 30's Help

[RisingCane]

You must be joking! I've been picking up UM girls for decades, literally.

As pretty much the entire website explains, they're not simply chasing guys with money. Avoid self-limiting beliefs.

Funny you say this because this past week, I was going on a walk through my neighborhood. Its been a stressful week at work so I needed it and I run into these two hot blondes. I do not approach them at first but then later on I see them again heading the same place I was. I make small talk with them and it goes well. Both are UM students and their vibe was amazing, definitely more gentle and kind compared to what you get in Miami as a whole. I get their IGs but did not do any direct game with them or anything.

They live in the same building I do (it's a giant building) and said that they raised their rents by a lot so they are leaving in a couple months. I played the "I know a guy who might be able to find you a new place" angle but so far, have build nothing of a rapport of closing in that sexual way.

TBH, I think you are right. My limiting beliefs about college girls has kicked in. FWIW, I was not that great with them even when I was in college as I was not a party animal or anything and I think I have a lot of stuff to get over here. Even guys I have gamed with tend to not pull these kinds of girls, they are all get with foreign women who are older.

But now that I think of it, I have had a lot of good experiences with UM girls in terms of interacting with them.

The only bad times I have had were at Barracuda on a Thursday which is all college kids but I think I just filled my mind with subconsciously toxic crap about college girls because I never saw an older guy have success with them.

 

[Swati]

32 is not that bad, lol, if anything you'd have an advantage to pulling them, 18-23. I can see if you're 45+ AND look your age you'd have some social frame problems. Even then my 45 and 50 old ass wings wouldn't settle to pulling anything 30+, they still manage! The age-out thing is more of a calibration and experience from what I have been seeing from people asking about this.

Who's saying it?

25-50 year old women who feel like they can't compete with the young pussies.

Cucky dudes that never had a chance.

Anyways, I'm going to keep fucking them, until my dick doesn't work anymore

 

[RisingCane]

@DonGately I am wondering how you managed to do well with UM girls, are you meeting them from daygame perhaps?

I have started to go to Regatta again on Fridays, some of the Miami locals might remember The Wharf from back in the day, this is a replacement bar to that. There is an area of Regatta where they have the ping pong tables and it is all big college cliques. The girls come out either in a large girl group or a large mixed group of guys and girls. It gets packed on weekends.

You are normally left with approaching at least a 3 set if not more. I had a decent approach with this blonde but she was playing the boss b1tch energy and my state was not right so maybe something I need to work on.

The other venue I used to game at on and off and will do again is Barracudas on Thursday nights.

Here is what tripped my and all my wings up, the friends coming in out of nowhere to completely destroy the set.

Like you would talk to a chick and have a decent set going and out of nowhere, some random girl pops is shouting her name out loud like she has not seen her in ages or as if her friend just got back from a war. I even had a situation where I was just about to pull a girl but in the final moment random friends popped out of nowhere.

So I am interested in knowing how you had success with UM girls and whether it can be done at the venues above I mentioned.

 

[RisingCane]

32 is not that bad, lol, if anything you'd have an advantage to pulling them, 18-23. I can see if you're 45+ AND look your age you'd have some social frame problems. Even then my 45 and 50 old ass wings wouldn't settle to pulling anything 30+, they still manage! The age-out thing is more of a calibration and experience from what I have been seeing from people asking about this.

Who's saying it?

25-50 year old women who feel like they can't compete with the young pussies.

Cucky dudes that never had a chance.

Anyways, I'm going to keep fucking them, until my dick doesn't work anymore

I mean college environments do get hyper cliquey and even @Chase mentioned that it can be an uphill battle if you try to pull from a college bar as an older guy. FWIW, I Googled this topic and it does seem like the general view is negative. I made the mistake of reading through Reddit posts and some female users claiming that all college girls who went for older guys were damaged or that "older" to them was 24.

In my own personal experience with the game community here in Miami, the PUAs I know are all in Brickell hitting up women around their mid 20s and up. Even one guy who is friends with Alex from PWF and regularly hands out with IndianPE has told me he mainly gets working professional women in Brickell but has never had any luck with college girls.

Not that I think it can't be done but rather that it comes with its own unique challenges we have to accept and overcome is all.

From my personal experience with age, I have seen it come up only once and that was gaming these brunettes at Barracuda we shouldn't have stuck in the set with. The girls were not even pretty or high status for their college environment.

 

[OldGuy]

In day game there is no problem, although in college night game you would run into social blocking due to cockblocking or security. Personal experience is with senior women in day game looking mid 50s.

 

[Spike]

Not that I think it can't be done but rather that it comes with its own unique challenges we have to accept and overcome is all

No unique challenge. Just look and dress young and lie about your age. Basically all it takes. I’ll write a post on how I do that sometime

 

[RisingCane]

No unique challenge. Just look and dress young and lie about your age. Basically all it takes. I’ll write a post on how I do that sometime

I am looking forward to that post. TBH, I went out again yesterday night and had a couple of sets with college girls. In the end, I have myself to blame. I feel like as a guy who is in his 30s, I have a lot of self-limiting beliefs in this regard that should not be there but are there. Maybe I read too much internet and the whole how you should be grown up by 30 and how older guys with college girls is creepy.

 

[average_daygamer]

Where do you live man? In South America, Asia and Africa - ie most of the world, it's perfectly normal to date women decades younger than yourself if your an attractive guy. I'm based in the UK and also easily manage it.

Sorry I'm in the UK and that's a hard disagree. They are more likely to call you a paedo/nonce especially the chavy ones.

I think the yanks are more open to age gaps, all of these age gap promotion seems to come from north America.

 

[RisingCane]

No unique challenge. Just look and dress young and lie about your age. Basically all it takes. I’ll write a post on how I do that sometime

Interesting you say lie about your age. Do you lie and say you are in your mid 20s? What you clearly look too old to be an undergrad?

 

[Spike]

Interesting you say lie about your age. Do you lie and say you are in your mid 20s? What you clearly look too old to be an undergrad?

When I ask girls to guess my age. I get a range between 20-24. However it’s easier to then reveal my actual age if I lied that I was 26 and have them see it as ok post reveal Vs if I lied I was 21 when I’m actually in my mid 30s.

 

[RisingCane]

When I ask girls to guess my age. I get a range between 20-24. However it’s easier to then reveal my actual age if I lied that I was 26 and have them see it as ok post reveal Vs if I lied I was 21 when I’m actually in my mid 30s.

Advice for dudes in their mid 30s gaming in a heavy college environment then? Or for dudes who clearly look over 30.

 

[Spike]

Advice for dudes in their mid 30s gaming in a heavy college environment then? Or for dudes who clearly look over 30

For dudes in their mid 30s. I would look over 30 if I didn’t care about skincare, fashion, or hairstyle

 

[OldGuy]

When I took my daughter to freshman orientation I got lots of interest from the women 20-21 who were helping ( I was 60 looking 45). [Note: daughters make lousy wing women.]

 

[RisingCane]

For dudes in their mid 30s. I would look over 30 if I didn’t care about skincare, fashion, or hairstyle

Wait I am confused, are you saying that you should try to do all you can looks wise to not look over 30? What if you have things like greying hair and such?

 

[Spike]

Wait I am confused, are you saying that you should try to do all you can looks wise to not look over 30?

Yes

What if you have things like greying hair and such?

Dye your hair

 

[RisingCane]

@Spike Then what about guys who clearly look over 30 due to age? Like someone who is 40 is not going to be mistaken for a 29 year old anytime soon.

 

[RisingCane]

With night game I will tell you it depends to an extent what venues you frequent.

If you go to the college bar where everyone is under 22 and they're all college classmates, unless you are a really well put together older guy (30s to 50s) you'll have trouble with a lot of the girls there. You'll still likely find a few free thinkers and/or old guy lovers who are okay with you, but they'll be outliers.

However, if you go to the eclectic club with a broader crowd, and it's a mix of different ages, including a lot of late teens and early twenty-somethings, you shouldn't have problems if your fundamentals are halfway decent.

The main obstacle you have to worry about is "school mentality", where the girl is constantly surrounded by age peers and thinks anyone a year older than her is ancient and anyone a year younger than her is an infant. If she's not in school (either due to graduation or not ever having enrolled) you won't have this issue, particularly so the longer she's been out of school and in the real world... many girls need a little time to readjust their filters and realize older guys are more attractive and put together than a lot of the guys their ages. Or, if she's a gal with a thing for older guys, you obviously won't have an issue even if she is in school.

In general, the girls with "school mentality" cluster in bars where they can stay around those who are just their age peers, where they feel more comfortable.

That said, even if that's all that's in your area, it's not necessarily a lost cause. I have SNL'ed some very good-looking late teens and early 20-something girls from college bars despite being a lot older than them. It's a lot easier if you roll in with a wingman who's your age though, I will say. Gets you instant social proof as "That one crazy guy who is just like us and a part of our circle even though he's so old."

Chase

I am running into this right now in Miami. There is a bar near me called Barracuda and another called Regatta, think @DonGately and maybe @Skills (not sure if he is in Miami but he said Florida in this thread) are familiar with it. Thursdays at Barracudas are college night and Fridays at Regatta, on the end where they have ping pong tables, are college nights. Regatta used to be the infamous Miami Wharf where lots of PUAs gathered but then it closed.

One thing I run into is the constant cockblocking even when I am with a wing. It is quite pronounced at this one venue called Barracuda where we have actually came up with a name of it called the Barracuda Screech. Here is how it goes, almost comedic:

1. You have an approach that is going decent.

2. After a couple of minutes, if you have not isolated (it is all outdoors), you hear a loud screech of a girl (usually unattractive) yelling her friend's name.

3. The scream is like that of a girl who is thinking her friend just returned from Nam or something even though they are probably college classmates.

4. Boom approach is dead.

I have even got close to pulling on some nights only for the friend group or people who know her to stop me in the final hour. Wondering if there any any Miami locals here who have managed to have success at these two venues with college girls in particular.

 

[RisingCane]

In terms of my own experience gaming in Barracuda, which is all college girls on Thursdays, only once in our entire time there have we been age-shamed and that was with these two girls who looking back at it were lower value. Despite the fact that my regular wing and I were into our 30s, no one seemed to care and some sets lasted a good bit. It does seem like it's not just us who were struggling though, tons of college dudes were on the prowl and struggling as well.

I do buy what @Skills and @DonGately are saying about college girls in Miami, even if it is the rich kid school called UM, liking older dudes for a few reasons.

1. They live in luxury buildings in Brickell and The Grove despite there being Lifetime Fitness and others in The Gables. I am sure there are decent buildings and houses near campus but they never stay in those.

2. They go out to venues like Mr Jones, LIV, Space, E11ven, and places meant more for Miami Locals and Tourists, not exactly going to U Of Miami bars for some reason. Even back in the day they Uber'd all the way from The Gables to the Wharf downtown rather than staying with venues that are closer.

Paradoxically, it does not seem like any local Miami PUA who is older that I know has cracked the code on UM girls so challenge accepted.

 

[Spike]

@Spike Then what about guys who clearly look over 30 due to age? Like someone who is 40 is not going to be mistaken for a 29 year old anytime soon

I’m in my mid 30s and still get confused for being in my early 20s. I’m pretty sure I’ll get confused for being in my mid 20s when I’m 40s too because I’m very aware of what it takes to look young