Daygame-how do you solve the lack of volume?

[average_daygamer]

One thing that has occured to me in daygame.

A lack of volume.

Unless you live in a big city, nightgame provides the volume but not the environment.

Daygame provides the environment but not the volume.

It always makes me wonder how daygame became so popular.

You can walk around for hours and only do 1 approach.

Whereas in the club you can do 20 approaches in an hour. Depending on what you consider an approach.

 

[Bill]

Go to busy areas

 

[bkw]

If you're in a small town, then you basically need to move.

I lived in a small college town before I moved to the city. It was somewhat torture because when college was in it was glory days, but as soon as college was out I was like a man walking in a desert for months, and it was agony. I had enough and finally moved. If you're serious, and if it bothers you a lot, then move.

 

[Aussiedude]

One thing that has occured to me in daygame.

A lack of volume.

Unless you live in a big city, nightgame provides the volume but not the environment.

Daygame provides the environment but not the volume.

It always makes me wonder how daygame became so popular.

You can walk around for hours and only do 1 approach.

Whereas in the club you can do 20 approaches in an hour. Depending on what you consider an approach.

Yup, for day game living in a big city is a must. Preferably in the center.

 

[James D]

In daygame, screen for places with high turnover + good flow.

One of my fav spots is a mall by a boulevard by the beach. Very dynamic, lots of movement, high turnover. I circle back and forth without being too obvious what I'm there for (although no one gives a shit)

If I'm down to get laid, I certainly won't go hunt in a coffee shop.

Big malls are also my favourite. High turnover, good flow. I'll walk down the fancy clothes corridor, make a couple approaches, then head to the grocery store embedded in the mall, hit on a few chicks.

When I burn one floor, I take the escalator to the next one and do a round. I'll stop by the bookstore and see if I can open a chick situationally.

Then I'll scout the food court area before reverting back to the original floor.

When I'm done, I'll hit any adjacent parks and get some approaches done.

It's decent volume.

That said, day game is inferior to night game when it comes to volume.

It's one of the cons of daygame. Lots of walking around for nothing.

You can counter that by scouting for places ahead of time.

 

[Atlas IV]

The guys above pretty much covered it.

I'll just add that daygame massively depends on the demographics of your city and even the area where you choose. There are so many variables.

Questions you should ask yourself (or ChatGPT):
What city has the youngest population?
What city has the most universities?
Are the universities clustered together or spread out?
What's the urban population? (the bigger the better)
Is it a beach town or an inland city? (relevant for where most young people are likely to be)
Where are the most popular malls/shopping areas for young people?
What time/day do most people go out to do things?

These will all have an outsized impact on your approach opportunities, time efficiency, and therefore your results.

 

[Aussiedude]

That said, day game is inferior to night game when it comes to volume.

What about for a beginner? Who's learning to approach, getting better at talking to girls, cutting down their anxieties etc. Which do you think is better for rapid progress?

Because I get the sense day game is better for improving yourself, and night game is where it really pays off.

Just curious what you think if you've got experience with both.

 

[James D]

What about for a beginner? Who's learning to approach, getting better at talking to girls, cutting down their anxieties etc. Which do you think is better for rapid progress?

Favour volume for that. So night game.

And you'll get much better at frame control, which day game doesn't naturally favour.

Because I get the sense day game is better for improving yourself, and night game is where it really pays off.

I don't agree.

Both are great for improving yourself and both can pay off really well, perhaps in different ways.

There are things you can pull off in night game that you simply can't pull off in day game.

You can't realistically meet a random hot chick in a mall and fuck her in a bathroom within 5 min or so. (the day I do it, I'll write the report and post it before leaving the bathroom)

The odds are higher that you stumble across a horny chick on the dancefloor at the end of the night and she likes your look or your moves and lets you drag her to the bathroom.

It's still luck but that luck is higher in night game than day game.

You can still pull very fast lays tho. I know this guy who meets chicks on the beach, pulls them within 10 min to his beach house and they fall in bed together.

It depends what's your idea of seduction success.

Both are great improving, both can give you wild stories.

The only thing I'd argue in favour of night game is frame control. I can't think of anything in day game that trains you in frame control to the extent that night game tests you.

Of course, stopping her on the street and making an approach without social context requires good frame control. Once she's hooked tho or once you're on a date with her, you only have to manage your frame control with her Vs night game, where there many more variables + often chaotic situations.

For frame control, go with night game.

 

[average_daygamer]

What about for a beginner? Who's learning to approach, getting better at talking to girls, cutting down their anxieties etc. Which do you think is better for rapid progress?

Because I get the sense day game is better for improving yourself, and night game is where it really pays off.

Just curious what you think if you've got experience with both.

I would say nightgame.

Think about it this way. In daygame, you have to see the girl and then go. You are on a knife's edge. And in most places you don't see the 18+ demographic during the day unless it is a university town.

But the club is usually full of such younger women and you are in proximity of them for extended periods of time. The girls in the club are usually more attractive as well.

In daygame, you are in front of the girl for most approaches for maybe 30 seconds or less until you hook one. A constant state of scarcity. So you get a lot less exposure to being in their presence.

However, nightgame is difficult to fill the "non approaching" time with.

For instance, I hate alcohol and don't dance, so what am I doing when not approaching?

Hell, how do I even not look like too much of a creep when I am on my own in the club getting blowout after blowout?

I don't know.

 

[OldGuy]

Depends on the person and their previous experience. As an introvert, my first try at night game I found the place so frightening I ran away without even thinking about the women there, but day game was just like gym class when they opened the divider and told us to find a partner to square dance with. I obeyed and realized I was the only one going over to the other side of the gym and realized I could get the cutest girl there (pre-puberty) so I was used to success at day game.