FR Love and Hate Relationships With Clubs

[Definitely_not_a_gymrat]

Hi guys, this is an FR on my night out at a big club. To preface this, the club was mostly a sausage fest, but I still tried to approach as best as I could.

Also went with one other friend, but he was useless when talking to girls.

Started on the dance floor, trying to get the vibe right, moving to the music, mosh pit, all that sort of stuff. I was teasing girls to dance, which they giggled at.

However later I made dance floor approaches which were unsuccessful.

Tried the high five into spin thing, didn’t work for me, first time trying it, just need to be a bit more bold next time.

If it didn’t work I told the girl it was just a high five and got her to accept my frame, so it doesn’t look like a rejection per se(in her head).

Anyways excused myself to the bathroom but really I just wanted to go to the bar and lounge area to approach more chicks, and I got a much better reception.

Spoiler: Approach 1

Approached a blonde and brunette, blonde was immediately more receptive, even though I was more into the brunette tbh. Tbh both were super cute it’s a matter of types.

Opened them by saying they dressed really well, and that I was about to wear the same outfit as the blonde. They bantered back, which was great.

However, they were waiting for a friend who was sick(ppl can’t control their alcohol), and I told them I would help them to their uber, they said no it’s okay.

Not all is lost I re engaged them later.

5 second after they leave, I make my next approach.

Spoiler: Approach 2

More of the same opener, with me complimenting her outfit, saying I almost wore the same thing.

This time, I took it a step further, and said that I was hoping that my pretend outfit would have the same cleavage showing as hers, and complimented her on that(really direct, I know), and she started bantering back.

Eventually, we started chatting about other things, she said she was waiting for a guy, and eventually left for

Another 5 seconds later, I make my third approach. More of the same as the second approach, except this girl says she’s really shy, waiting for a girlfriend and doesn’t like meeting new people. Tried to run a yes ladder, but it didn’t work on this girl, tbh I just used it on the wrong girl.

I walk over to the lockers, make my fourth approach to a set of two, one of them wants to puke(seriously), they seemed chill about me coming, but near the dance floor, they were not waiting for me, I took that as a sign to back off.

However, I saw the girls from the first approach, and they were receptive.

They were right outside the dance floor, I said “Why aren’t you in there?”

They realized I was right, went to the dance floor and gestured me to join them.

I think this is where I lost them, since they ran into 2 more friends, and the fat girl and my girl kept deliberating about me.

(I think the fat girl was trying to cockblock).

So I introduce myself to her, make small chat, and as I’m about to leave, I tell her to tell the girl that I’m into that I think she’s super cute, as a last ditch effort.

She says she’s in a situationship, which imo is total bs, but she gives out her instagram and follows me back. Texted her, but probably a useless lead imo.

Overall, just trying to improve at nightclub game, the dance floor is where I have a hard part hooking girls in, I read Alek’s dance floor series game, tried to work on keeping a neutral face and moving with the music in a chill manner, rather than being a dancing monkey. Is there anything you can do to increase the odds that a girl will hook on the dance floor?

In the lounge are I think I’m better but still need improvement with leading, especially groups of drunk girls that may have cockblock friends or sick friends.

Any advice appreciated.

 

[Water]

Wow you are really active.

Dance floor game is a separate skill than regular club approaches.

Id recommend Skills for that, he’s a master at dance floor game.

For approaching at night game, just some simple tips, might be too beginner for you but this is all that comes off the top of my head, Im mainly a day gamer.

Approach immediately within 1-3 minutes of entering the venue.

Always be smiling and look like you’re having a good time.

First 3 approaches dont count.

Get yourself in state is important if your skill set isnt solid.

I went out one night to solo at a night club and was in a good state after a love systems comach Derek Cajun gave me some advice.

I went to the night club solo. 2 make outs, countless numbers, got invited to someones $5,000 VIP table, they were getting married and the groom thought i was super cool and chill, and i met a cool set with 2 hot girls and hung out with them the rest of the night.

Main to hit state for now. Then things will flow.

Keep in mind your overall goal: which is to get laid.

But have mini goals, choose small goals, 2-3 different things you want to work on each night you’re out.

Testing a new opener.

Projecting your voice better if girls always say what.

Attempting to make out with a certain number of girls.

Practicing bouncing. (moving girls from one part to another, best done by leading and holding her hand)

Have 2 openers ready and 1 super simple opener as a back up if you freeze up, and have a follow up routine ready, im sure routine stacks are explained on this forum.

Have a routine for kisssing the girls. It’s mostly just a matter of going for it, it’s way easier than it seems, and it’s way scarier than it should be.

Don’t drink alcohol is my personal belief.

 

[Definitely_not_a_gymrat]

Wow you are really active.

Thanks Water!

Dance floor game is a separate skill than regular club approaches.

Id recommend Skills for that, he’s a master at dance floor game.

Fs, tbh I want to get better at everything, but being able to talk a little bit is a massive advantage for me.

Recently I’ve been testing speaking a bit of Italian, and for some reason girls fall over me when I do this(outside of Italian clubs ofc). It helps to know some Italian in Italy though, more for night streetgame, where girls have higher attention spans.

For approaching at night game, just some simple tips, might be too beginner for you but this is all that comes off the top of my head, Im mainly a day gamer.

Approach immediately within 1-3 minutes of entering the venue.

Yeah, when I wrote this FR, my friend was pretty useless.

Went to a couple clubs in a different country a couple weeks later, the group was 5 guys, 0 girls, and we hit the floor running, all of us were approaching immediately.

Also I got way better receptions.

First night got cut short there was a theft incident that happened to someone I had to help with.

Second night was my FR “Shower Fucks.”

Always be smiling and look like you’re having a good time.

First 3 approaches dont count.

Get yourself in state is important if your skill set isnt solid.

I went out one night to solo at a night club and was in a good state after a love systems comach Derek Cajun gave me some advice.

Fair, might experiment with this soon, but probably not for the next couple of months. IMO if you have 1 or 2 dudes that are serious about approaching chicks and have some game, ur good to go.

Also i was having fun regardless.

I went to the night club solo. 2 make outs, countless numbers, got invited to someones $5,000 VIP table, they were getting married and the groom thought i was super cool and chill, and i met a cool set with 2 hot girls and hung out with them the rest of the night.

Yeah, sounds sick. Clubs that I go to in Europe are more chill, not really any 5k vip tables, but sometimes the locals there are happy to bring me(only me, not my friends for some reason) into their group for a bit. Met some actors and actresses one time, was pretty cool.

One of the actresses was hot, into me, but had a complicated relationship, and her breath was stinky.

Main to hit state for now. Then things will flow.

Keep in mind your overall goal: which is to get laid.

Yes, that’s why idc about make outs anymore. Sure, you look cool making out with a hot girl, but ur still gonna be masturbating at the end of the night alone if all ur going for is makeouts.

Still better than nothing.

But have mini goals, choose small goals, 2-3 different things you want to work on each night you’re out.

Testing a new opener.

Projecting your voice better if girls always say what.

Attempting to make out with a certain number of girls.

Practicing bouncing. (moving girls from one part to another, best done by leading and holding her hand)

Yes, gonna try to have mini goals at the beginning of the night and work my way up.

Have 2 openers ready and 1 super simple opener as a back up if you freeze up, and have a follow up routine ready, im sure routine stacks are explained on this forum.

Have a routine for kisssing the girls. It’s mostly just a matter of going for it, it’s way easier than it seems, and it’s way scarier than it should be.

Yeah, it’s scary how quick you can kiss a girl after meeting her in a club, give or take 30 seconds.

Don’t drink alcohol is my personal belief.

Tbh I’ve been drinking a lot the past couple of months, not getting super sloppy or anything, but alcohol doesn’t really affect me much anymore.

Also I don’t want to drink copious amounts of alcohol to get drunk, hangovers are not worth it, and I’m trying to put on serious muscle rn.

 

[Water]

Drinking is fine, I personally don’t because I don’t want to become dependent so I always approach sober. Might start drinking casually for fun.

It’s more important you have fun wings than dedicated ones.

They can raise your state a lot. One of my wings just being out with him improves my game. He kisses a hot girl, and seeing him do it I kiss a hot girl within 5 minutes of him.

On the way to the club listen to upbeat music and sing out loud and move around and dance a little, to improve your state.

And, I personally contact close every girl I approach or try to. Maybe you should do that with every girl you make progress with. Keeping in touch, you might cross paths again. Or one of you gets invested enough to visit the other.

 

[Definitely_not_a_gymrat]

Drinking is fine, I personally don’t because I don’t want to become dependent so I always approach sober. Might start drinking casually for fun.

Yea I might do the opposite it’s gotten to a point where the alcohol tolerance is too high it’s not even fun anymore. And I’m on the lighter side so it’s concerning.

It’s more important you have fun wings than dedicated ones.

With the LR report, and the day before that(not posted) they were dedicated, but also super fun.

Even the time we spent outside the club together was fun.

In the “Love and Hate Relationship with Clubs” FR, the wing was not dedicated, and not nearly as fun.

They can raise your state a lot. One of my wings just being out with him improves my game. He kisses a hot girl, and seeing him do it I kiss a hot girl within 5 minutes of him.

Yup, I feel you brother.

On the way to the club listen to upbeat music and sing out loud and move around and dance a little, to improve your state.

Fair, I just like to socialize pre club, get in a social mood.

And, I personally contact close every girl I approach or try to. Maybe you should do that with every girl you make progress with. Keeping in touch, you might cross paths again. Or one of you gets invested enough to visit the other.

Maybe, I go for insta close, but like the next day it just feels so useless just because I haven’t really built a connection. I could put this into practice as a lil experiment, but tbh unless there’s a good connection being built, I don’t see the point.