Manhattan Solo DG
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Approach 8 + 3#close (DG)
As I said in my last report, my macro approach-momentum is in a good place, and getting better. Currently, it's fairly simple for me to approach 6+ per session. Ideally, 10+ per session is where I want to be. I could have done it today but a little lazy and wanted to put my attention on the conversations, as this is kind of where my sticking points are at the moment, so let's talk about that real fast...
Where I'm at in my daygame progression after taking years off and getting back into it is I feel like I'm at the point where I can start collecting more numbers, but they have been flaking. What this tells me is the approach and conversation/connection is lacking. Therefore, today I wanted to go out and focus on my conversation while in set.
I decided to abandon the LDM stacking and so many observational statements and just be more in the moment and forget all the rules and try to focus on the conversation and go off that. I think, for me, it was better today for me to do this. I feel like when I'm trying to converse with the LDM model I'm in my head thinking about it, not really connecting on the conversation, on the topics, not really flowing, etc., and the girls can feel that, and it probably seems strange. Instead, when the girl said something I focused on that, what might be interesting about that topic and what I might want to say about it, and where I could add some things related to me about it -- it's hard for me to put into words here, but I guess you can say it's much more natural and not worrying about structure. I try to focus on her and lead when it's needed to carry the conversation. This seemed to work well today and nearly all the girls were planted, and we had fairly long conversations.
I can talk about this forever, but it'll just get convoluted, so I'll try to keep the conversation part there. Essentially, I'm trusting in my conversational faculties. For me, thankfully, I think I already know instinctively when to tease, challenge, story tell, ask questions, etc., because there are clear parts in the conversation that ask for it; you can sense it.
Also, my ability to converse off cold-approach is getting better because my AA is almost gone. Like, today, I didn't really have any AA. I did have some excuses of laziness or "she's not hot enough" or "I don't want to jog after her", but not really being scared of approaching or what to say. The only reason it's this way is because of the work I've put in since February. Momentum is real. Desensitization is real. Progression is real. It all adds up.
Also, I have put a lot of my realization in "approach-momentum" while out--it's one of the reasons why approaching 10+ per session is important, because variance; because approach-momentum literally increases your vibe, your confidence, your ability to converse PER SESSION, so it's like a meter that builds the more you approach. I kept this in mind today, and it seemed to be true. Conversely, when you aren't approaching while out you get negative momentum, and it puts you more in your head and kills any positive momentum while out. These things are real and you should pay attention to it.
Once again, currently, I think I'm entering the phase in my progression where I'm on top of my AA, my approach counts are pretty good, and now I'm in the phase of working on getting solid numbers. This is basically my focus now: conversations, and making numbers more solid. If I can make numbers more solid by having better interactions/connections while in set, I can then focus on dates.
It's great timing too because the weather is warming up and girls bodies are on display, and it's the season for daygame here in the city!
Personally, I think of the 3 numbers I collected today, 2 were somewhat forced, and one was pretty good...
The other thing is going for stronger number closes--instead of asking for coffee for one of them I just said, we should grab coffee sometime, and while I was saying that I was grabbing my phone as if she was going to give me her number, and it worked. I also persisted more on some conversations, and that led to longer conversations and a number close. So persistence and stronger number closes might be something I'll do more, will see.
As I said in my last report, my macro approach-momentum is in a good place, and getting better. Currently, it's fairly simple for me to approach 6+ per session. Ideally, 10+ per session is where I want to be. I could have done it today but a little lazy and wanted to put my attention on the conversations, as this is kind of where my sticking points are at the moment, so let's talk about that real fast...
Where I'm at in my daygame progression after taking years off and getting back into it is I feel like I'm at the point where I can start collecting more numbers, but they have been flaking. What this tells me is the approach and conversation/connection is lacking. Therefore, today I wanted to go out and focus on my conversation while in set.
I decided to abandon the LDM stacking and so many observational statements and just be more in the moment and forget all the rules and try to focus on the conversation and go off that. I think, for me, it was better today for me to do this. I feel like when I'm trying to converse with the LDM model I'm in my head thinking about it, not really connecting on the conversation, on the topics, not really flowing, etc., and the girls can feel that, and it probably seems strange. Instead, when the girl said something I focused on that, what might be interesting about that topic and what I might want to say about it, and where I could add some things related to me about it -- it's hard for me to put into words here, but I guess you can say it's much more natural and not worrying about structure. I try to focus on her and lead when it's needed to carry the conversation. This seemed to work well today and nearly all the girls were planted, and we had fairly long conversations.
I can talk about this forever, but it'll just get convoluted, so I'll try to keep the conversation part there. Essentially, I'm trusting in my conversational faculties. For me, thankfully, I think I already know instinctively when to tease, challenge, story tell, ask questions, etc., because there are clear parts in the conversation that ask for it; you can sense it.
Also, my ability to converse off cold-approach is getting better because my AA is almost gone. Like, today, I didn't really have any AA. I did have some excuses of laziness or "she's not hot enough" or "I don't want to jog after her", but not really being scared of approaching or what to say. The only reason it's this way is because of the work I've put in since February. Momentum is real. Desensitization is real. Progression is real. It all adds up.
Also, I have put a lot of my realization in "approach-momentum" while out--it's one of the reasons why approaching 10+ per session is important, because variance; because approach-momentum literally increases your vibe, your confidence, your ability to converse PER SESSION, so it's like a meter that builds the more you approach. I kept this in mind today, and it seemed to be true. Conversely, when you aren't approaching while out you get negative momentum, and it puts you more in your head and kills any positive momentum while out. These things are real and you should pay attention to it.
Once again, currently, I think I'm entering the phase in my progression where I'm on top of my AA, my approach counts are pretty good, and now I'm in the phase of working on getting solid numbers. This is basically my focus now: conversations, and making numbers more solid. If I can make numbers more solid by having better interactions/connections while in set, I can then focus on dates.
It's great timing too because the weather is warming up and girls bodies are on display, and it's the season for daygame here in the city!
Personally, I think of the 3 numbers I collected today, 2 were somewhat forced, and one was pretty good...
The other thing is going for stronger number closes--instead of asking for coffee for one of them I just said, we should grab coffee sometime, and while I was saying that I was grabbing my phone as if she was going to give me her number, and it worked. I also persisted more on some conversations, and that led to longer conversations and a number close. So persistence and stronger number closes might be something I'll do more, will see.
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Yes, exactly. And I totally get it - seems like half the time the girl I find attractive is crossing the street coming at me from the opposite direction as I'm crossing, or is returning the shopping cart at the supermarket in a busy area.But I think I see what you’re saying, in that if I focus on more casual social areas I likely won’t get so much blowouts. You might be right
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Approach 9 + 1 #close (DG)
Approaches:
1. Spanish girl who didn't speak any English. Was good because I was communicating with my body language and getting feedback
2. Fast walking girl near flatiron. Seemed in a rush didn't want to persist too long
3. White girl fast walking Soho. Had to jog to approach. She was in rush to meeting. Tried to close quickly because of this. BF deflection
4. Asian girl in short skirt. Nice legs. Approached. She seemed keen. Took her number. She was responsive to initial text.
5.White girl in business skirt attire. Seemed a little too busy to want to converse
6. Hot girl walking very fast. Bf deflection
7. Dreamy Miami girl leaving tomorrow. No to coffee because of this
8. Pretty Latino girl. Someone in front of her as I went to approach, so didn't really kill her momentum. Didn't really stop and excused herself
9. Asian girl from San Fran. Here a couple more days. No to coffee invite
Notes for the day:
1. Feeling very comfortable today. Felt well-rested. Little to no AA.
2. Not even thinking about the LDM in set. I'm just riffing in the conversation, and it seems to be going well. I am much more comfortable and my opens are much better and getting girls to stop, react positively, and conversations are more invested. Probably going to ditch the LDM from here on out, unless I see a pattern of bad interactions. In the past when I was getting consistent dates I didn't really use the LDM either, and I was doing fine. There are basics of conversation, and I don't think I need it IF i'm getting results, but it is a little early yet to tell because I just got over the AA and approach count plateau I was having. Going to see how my newfound comfort and conversations help with phone numbers and flakiness--this will take some time for feedback. Personally, I think when you are comfortable approaching and getting in conversations with women in general, then things start to work for you. The main problem, at least for me, is when I am NOT confident or comfortable and it derails everything. So now I'm interested to see how things turn out for me now that I'm getting very comfortable again.
3. I keep saying it, but momentum is CRUCIAL when it comes to cold-approach. I'm literally riding momentum, since I've been going out since February. It's reached a nice point mentally for me. If I keep going it should get better unless I allow rejections to somehow ruin my psyche (will take a lot for that to happen).
4. Hit-and-run compliments/openers have more power than I ever gave them credit for. I think they can serve you well if you find yourself with situational AA. For example, in stores you can keep doing hit-and-run openers/compliments until you're fairly comfortable, then getting into conversations will be much easier because you've desensitized yourself to opening. It sounds kind of stupid, but don't discredit the power of it. The utility of it is that you can use to when you find yourself in high AA situations, or you want to warm up, and just the momentum of doing it increases your confidence and macro-momentum, etc.
I keep saying this, but eventually I'll likely stop posting here as frequently, mainly because I don't want to be a broken record and I would rather post about significant progress or updates. I also like to keep "the grind" sometimes to myself, probably because I don't feel pressure to share it to the world when it literally is a grind. I keep saying I'll lay off posting, but I enjoy writing and sharing my thoughts. Maybe i'll try to back away from it for a bit and just keep totally self-absorbed unless I make noticeable progress
Approaches:
1. Spanish girl who didn't speak any English. Was good because I was communicating with my body language and getting feedback
2. Fast walking girl near flatiron. Seemed in a rush didn't want to persist too long
3. White girl fast walking Soho. Had to jog to approach. She was in rush to meeting. Tried to close quickly because of this. BF deflection
4. Asian girl in short skirt. Nice legs. Approached. She seemed keen. Took her number. She was responsive to initial text.
5.White girl in business skirt attire. Seemed a little too busy to want to converse
6. Hot girl walking very fast. Bf deflection
7. Dreamy Miami girl leaving tomorrow. No to coffee because of this
8. Pretty Latino girl. Someone in front of her as I went to approach, so didn't really kill her momentum. Didn't really stop and excused herself
9. Asian girl from San Fran. Here a couple more days. No to coffee invite
Notes for the day:
1. Feeling very comfortable today. Felt well-rested. Little to no AA.
2. Not even thinking about the LDM in set. I'm just riffing in the conversation, and it seems to be going well. I am much more comfortable and my opens are much better and getting girls to stop, react positively, and conversations are more invested. Probably going to ditch the LDM from here on out, unless I see a pattern of bad interactions. In the past when I was getting consistent dates I didn't really use the LDM either, and I was doing fine. There are basics of conversation, and I don't think I need it IF i'm getting results, but it is a little early yet to tell because I just got over the AA and approach count plateau I was having. Going to see how my newfound comfort and conversations help with phone numbers and flakiness--this will take some time for feedback. Personally, I think when you are comfortable approaching and getting in conversations with women in general, then things start to work for you. The main problem, at least for me, is when I am NOT confident or comfortable and it derails everything. So now I'm interested to see how things turn out for me now that I'm getting very comfortable again.
3. I keep saying it, but momentum is CRUCIAL when it comes to cold-approach. I'm literally riding momentum, since I've been going out since February. It's reached a nice point mentally for me. If I keep going it should get better unless I allow rejections to somehow ruin my psyche (will take a lot for that to happen).
4. Hit-and-run compliments/openers have more power than I ever gave them credit for. I think they can serve you well if you find yourself with situational AA. For example, in stores you can keep doing hit-and-run openers/compliments until you're fairly comfortable, then getting into conversations will be much easier because you've desensitized yourself to opening. It sounds kind of stupid, but don't discredit the power of it. The utility of it is that you can use to when you find yourself in high AA situations, or you want to warm up, and just the momentum of doing it increases your confidence and macro-momentum, etc.
I keep saying this, but eventually I'll likely stop posting here as frequently, mainly because I don't want to be a broken record and I would rather post about significant progress or updates. I also like to keep "the grind" sometimes to myself, probably because I don't feel pressure to share it to the world when it literally is a grind. I keep saying I'll lay off posting, but I enjoy writing and sharing my thoughts. Maybe i'll try to back away from it for a bit and just keep totally self-absorbed unless I make noticeable progress
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I love DG. It’s becoming fun and addictive because I am noticing progress, and also because I have high ambitions. My past experiences with it might also help me too because I know it works and it’s both interesting/frustrating I’ve noticeably have regressed, quick significantly. Things are progressing almost exactly like you read about from DG legends like Tom T., etc., and they know because their experience and also from teaching thousands of students infield. Without that knowledge or guidance from others and knowing of this progression, I probably wouldn’t think it was possible, who knows. But damn I love it, even now. Not hard for me to be consistent currently