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Today I went to a nightclub that opens every monday from 10 30 till 6am. This is great bc I didnt have any place to go out on mondays.

I went with the idea to talk to as many ppl as possible, and I kinda did. I talked to some random guy that had gone alone and later a trans girl joined us (who was also alone). They ended up being my "base" for the entire night which was good for morale but they werent exceptionally social ppl and they were also kinda weird. I dont mind tho bc im also weird and autistic.

I talked to a couple of other guys but I mostly felt like I got bad responses, I feel like I am in the "meh" stage of Socially hopeless. I tried learning some social rules additional but there was so much going on that I dont think I was able to pay much attention. I mostly focused on the venues and trying to watch as many interesting interactions as possible.

I noted that a lot of guys were much more aggressive and even some girls were pretty bold with guys they liked.

I thinkkk that a couple of girls gave me approach invitations but im not entirely sure. Both because I lack experience in the technical aspect but also because I dont have the highest self esteem yet. Let me give you some examples:
- A girl dancing on a set was literally bumping her back and her ass on my side quite a lot of times. The part of me that thought that this was just on accident and not an approach invitation rationalized it as "she was dancing quite energetically and I was standing kinda weird so maybe it was just that". But I dont know, I would like to have the actual experience of knowing that this was an actual approach invitation and also the self esteem to just assume it but im still not quite there
- I approached a set of 2 guys and 1 girl but one of the guys brushed me off. Later on the girl from this set got very near me and I think that maybe she wanted me to approach her
- A set of 3 girls who were very cute but I hadnt interacted with them came veryyy close to me (and particularly one girl). Around this time the trans girl from my "base" came and started talking to me and immediately the 3set went away. I think that the girl that got very near me wanted me to approach her but after seeing me talking with the trans girl she lost interest.

One of the things that I learnt, not only today but also the past couple of outings, is that socially inept people sticking to you can fuck up your game. It is not the end of the world and you can mostly ignore them but it is important to have a base of somewhat decent people who arent gonna clumsily get between you and a girl

Another thing that bothers me which could be a limiting belief is that im quite short (around 165cm or 5′ 5'') and this nightclub was filled with fucking skycrapers of 1.8m+ (5' 11''+), I dont know if im just being a pussy making excuses or it is just a reality that im gonna have a harder time approaching in chaotic venues with tall AF guys.

Positive aspects:
- I went out for around 4 hours to a nightclub venue which I dont usually do
- I got to know the vibe of a new place I can go on mondays
- I actually talked to more people than the days before and it was in a nightclub which doesnt allow a lot of talking either

Negative aspects:
- I didnt approach any girl I liked, I just stood like a retard lmao
- I chose a poor base which fucked up an approach invitation from a very cute girl
- my ears are ringing from the loud music

I dont wanna make another social rule today, mostly because already having gone out and socializing was quite enough for me and besides, I think that I learnt a lot of social rules intuitively.
 
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Good work going out and socializing!
Thanks man!


Of the three things you thought might be approach invitations, they all were.
Fuck me man, I didn't expect them to be so bold. And even after reading several articles on approach invitations I have a hard time believing these girls are so direct. Will see what happens next monday
 

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Good work going out and socializing!
Of the three things you thought might be approach invitations, they all were.
I agree. Especially the first girl who rubbed up against @matheth. Proximity for extended periods of time, especially if they are rubbing up on you or trying to get your attention, is a green light.
 

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Ive been fapping a lot and yesterday i was too horny and ended up with one of these hookers. I thought i could replace them with fapping but i just get hornier and then when they send me messages i cant control myself


I read an article about masturbating and at one point it recommended to go full cold turkey. And thats what im gonna do. I definitely felt a drop of drive to meet new women today since Ive talked with guys mostly so it does affect my game and practise.

Today i talked with a lot of people, wasn't really aiming to establish a base or connect with ppl but rathwr talk with as many people as i can.

If i felt that the conversation wasnt going anywhere i would just eject myself which is something i wasnt doing before. I really wanna start focusing on chicks again since now im half avoiding them and half not having the drive but i really need to stop fapping and fucking whores if i want to really focus on this.

Positive aspects
- was feeling kinda depressed after relapsing yesterday but still went
- talked with a lot of ppl and dont feel as many inhibitions as last week to talk to new ppl
- since ive been going out a lot lately im starting to feel more at home since at any point i can look for guys I know and chat them up

Negative aspects:
- was very low energy, im part bc ive been going out a lot and not sleeping well but also bc i relapsed yesterday
- still didnt talk with any girls (at least purposely trying to make things happen)
- at one point i got social anxiety and started sweating like a pig which i dont like


As a bonus point i gotta add that i chatted up some guys waiting for the bus and we got along well. Im slowly loosing my social inhibitions and talking with anybody as if they were long time friends
Also asked for directions to a girl (im.pointing this out since I hadn't done it since ive started going out again last week)
 

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So today I went out again, but this time to a different venue that Ive only been a couple of times with my coach and didnt get too lucky. I only approached like 2 or 3 girls (most of them I either really liked or just liked) and I also went on my own which is an improvement. I didnt feel any social anxiety most of the night.
Positives:
- Went out on my own to a relatively new venue, did fairly well
- Finally talked with girls with the intention to game them and not just being social
- I felt less pressured to be social and would usually just speak my mind, even being a bit nasty with a fellow guy and saying outta pocket things lmao


Negatives:
- a hungarian girl I had spoken to earlier literally stood right next to me for a couple of seconds but when i realized she started to go (fml)
- at the end of the night i was kinda waiting for more approach invitations but thats the only one I got.
- I got stuck with a "base" of guys which were just AFCs.

I read an article talking about how you should go solo and welcome discomfort, it was about going out with friends and how they can fuck up your night. Tomorrow I plan on going to 2 different venues 2 hours each and really trying to focus solely on gaming chicks.

PS: I think that I didnt get as many aproach invitations because of my outfit.
 

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Here are the pics:

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So today I went out again, but this time to a different venue that Ive only been a couple of times with my coach and didnt get too lucky. I only approached like 2 or 3 girls (most of them I either really liked or just liked) and I also went on my own which is an improvement. I didnt feel any social anxiety most of the night.
Positives:
- Went out on my own to a relatively new venue, did fairly well
- Finally talked with girls with the intention to game them and not just being social
- I felt less pressured to be social and would usually just speak my mind, even being a bit nasty with a fellow guy and saying outta pocket things lmao


Negatives:
- a hungarian girl I had spoken to earlier literally stood right next to me for a couple of seconds but when i realized she started to go (fml)
- at the end of the night i was kinda waiting for more approach invitations but thats the only one I got.
- I got stuck with a "base" of guys which were just AFCs.

I read an article talking about how you should go solo and welcome discomfort, it was about going out with friends and how they can fuck up your night. Tomorrow I plan on going to 2 different venues 2 hours each and really trying to focus solely on gaming chicks.

PS: I think that I didnt get as many aproach invitations because of my outfit.
Hey man, you're doing great! Keep it up!

May I ask why you're waiting for so many IOIs from girls? Why not just approach them? It's a bit of jumping-into-the-deep end thing that might really accelerate things for you. Maybe you could set approach count goals and see how they react? For example, are some nice? Receptive? Did they appear to hook, etc?

I haven't done any night game for years, but one of the biggest "ah-ha" moments for me was when I realized when girls were hooking in set. It really helped me identify interested girls, but I wouldn't have known that if I wasn't approaching and getting to see their reactions
 
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Hey man, you're doing great! Keep it up!

May I ask why you're waiting for so many IOIs from girls? Why not just approach them? It's a bit of jumping-into-the-deep end thing that might really accelerate things for you. Maybe you could set approach count goals and see how they react? For example, are some nice? Receptive? Did they appear to hook, etc?

I haven't done any night game for years, but one of the biggest "ah-ha" moments for me was when I realized when girls were hooking in set. It really helped me identify interested girls, but I wouldn't have known that if I wasn't approaching and getting to see their reactions
I had just started again last week and wanted to first get into being social. But you're right, Im actually planning on today going and just hitting on chicks that i find pretty. im planning on doing at least 10 approaches, before i had the goal of "just be there" or "just talk to ppl". hopefully ill learn something else today!
 
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