Must You Be in the Top 1% of Men to Do Well with Women?

[Jasonbourneyo]

Sorry I am going to disagree.

The average/below average woman has a plethora of options. A sea of options to be honest. She's drowning in dick from high value men. From birth till about late 60. She's not going to settle for an average guy, an average guy to her is good for one of the three things:

Amusement.
Validating her by worshipping her.
Resources and time.

As for sex, she gets that from a guy thats part of the top 1 percent of men.

There's nothing a guy that's not part of that 1 percent can do that will have any lasting affect of women.
If he tries to argue with her, doesn't matter. One of the guys in her orbiter will buff up her ego and she will simply forget about him.
If he cheats on her, she might be sad for a bit. But her orbiters will push her ego back up, her friends will encourage her. Society will push her back up again.

Girls like feeling a range of emotions, she enjoys feeling sad, she enjoys feeling angry. What she hates is stability and calmness. You can't do anything to emotionally hurt a woman, if you're not part of the 1 percent.

All this stuff about not being a player and not emotionally hurting women, that's nonsense. Say whatever needs to be said to get what you want from women. Because you can't hurt her. She will forget about you in an instant and jump on some other dick in a flash. If you're not part of the 1 percent, you have to be crafty to get laid. Because these women don't want to have sex, they like having control and power over men. Sex is just something they dangle like a carrot over the guys head to get him to submit. Sex is only for the 1 percent.

A guy outside of the 1 percent is insignificant and worthless to women. A guy outside of the 1 percent has no lasting impression on a woman.

All those memes about fuckbois, only the top 1 percent of men have that power. The rest just have to put up with the nonsense and tbh anyone getting married these days is asking to get fucked over.

The only thing that will give you absolute control over these women is fame. Anything else is simply a placebo. Fame trump's everything. Good looks, height, whatever. Against a famous guy, she will submit.

 

[Will_V]

Sorry I am going to disagree.

The average/below average woman has a plethora of options. A sea of options to be honest. She's drowning in dick from high value men. From birth till about late 60. She's not going to settle for an average guy, an average guy to her is good for one of the three things:

Amusement.
Validating her by worshipping her.
Resources and time.

As for sex, she gets that from a guy thats part of the top 1 percent of men.

There's nothing a guy that's not part of that 1 percent can do that will have any lasting affect of women.
If he tries to argue with her, doesn't matter. One of the guys in her orbiter will buff up her ego and she will simply forget about him.
If he cheats on her, she might be sad for a bit. But her orbiters will push her ego back up, her friends will encourage her. Society will push her back up again.

Girls like feeling a range of emotions, she enjoys feeling sad, she enjoys feeling angry. What she hates is stability and calmness. You can't do anything to emotionally hurt a woman, if you're not part of the 1 percent.

All this stuff about not being a player and not emotionally hurting women, that's nonsense. Say whatever needs to be said to get what you want from women. Because you can't hurt her. She will forget about you in an instant and jump on some other dick in a flash. If you're not part of the 1 percent, you have to be crafty to get laid. Because these women don't want to have sex, they like having control and power over men. Sex is just something they dangle like a carrot over the guys head to get him to submit. Sex is only for the 1 percent.

A guy outside of the 1 percent is insignificant and worthless to women. A guy outside of the 1 percent has no lasting impression on a woman.

All those memes about fuckbois, only the top 1 percent of men have that power. The rest just have to put up with the nonsense and tbh anyone getting married these days is asking to get fucked over.

The only thing that will give you absolute control over these women is fame. Anything else is simply a placebo. Fame trump's everything. Good looks, height, whatever. Against a famous guy, she will submit.

My friend, there's a whole world out there that you'll never experience thinking like this. I suggest taking a break from the red pill fast food buffet and learning to taste reality again.

 

[Jasonbourneyo]

My friend, there's a whole world out there that you'll never experience thinking like this. I suggest taking a break from the red pill fast food buffet and learning to taste reality again.

Where am I wrong?

 

[DarkKnight]

@Jasonbourneyo

In the end everything is a frame battle. When you think in such fatalistic and let me say PUSSIFIED ways women pick up on it. There is so much you get across with your mimicry and behavior and that seems to be what defeats guys like you before it even started.

The way you carry yourself is huge and the way you carry is influenced by your thoughts.

Because you can't hurt her. -> Sigh. Women are robots ofc. lol

The only thing that will give you absolute control over these women is fame. Anything else is simply a placebo. Fame trump's everything. Good looks, height, whatever. Against a famous guy, she will submit. -> Brb gonna be a rockstar.

 

[Jasonbourneyo]

But it is true though. Women are propped up and worshipped by society. Men are disposable and basically thrown away like defective toys. The only ones with any real power, control or lasting effect over women these days are the 1 percent.

If one isn't part of the 1 percent, how is one going to get an attractive gf?

Women don't like sex, they like control and power. They wear tight and revealing clothes to be able to reject and throw away men, being able to reject men is like a power trip to them. They love feeling a range of emotions. They like feeling sad, angry and happy. What they hate is calmness and stability. They like getting cheated on, because think of how much influence a guy must have to be able to sleep with another women while in a committed relationship with another. Most guys are lucky to get laid so being able to cheat is a high value male behaviour.

The absolute power a 1 percent man is something they can't have, that's why those guys sleep with so many women. Those guys experience the best of women. We have to experience the worst and then put up with it. Even they she still has all the power in the relationship.

Western society, white attractive women in their teens to 50s are the pinnacle. Impossible to sleep with, their more like status symbols.

 

[Will_V]

Where am I wrong?

I know you want me to give you some kind of absolute truth, because when reality has been confusing, it feels good to find a way to be correct, even if it comes with the price of never being able to change it. This is the addiction of the red pill, the illusion that one stands far above the battlefield, and can predict all the patterns and transformations occurring down below. Sometimes it is not an illusion.

But for the man who stands face to face and toe to toe with his struggles, who looks into the eyes of chaos, he will live a different kind of life. He will sometimes see beauty, and innocence, fragility in those things he fears most, and strength that he can tame - and other sorts of things, which the one who has escaped permanently to the abstract will never see. He will experience more pain and more joy, and learn that he needs both of them to be alive ... and as he becomes alive, he will speak directly to those things which previously neglected to perceive his existence.

This is the world that one can live a lifetime being right, and never set foot in.

 

[ulrich]

But it is true though. Women are propped up and worshipped by society. Men are disposable and basically thrown away like defective toys. The only ones with any real power, control or lasting effect over women these days are the 1 percent.

If one isn't part of the 1 percent, how is one going to get an attractive gf?

Women don't like sex, they like control and power. They wear tight and revealing clothes to be able to reject and throw away men, being able to reject men is like a power trip to them. They love feeling a range of emotions. They like feeling sad, angry and happy. What they hate is calmness and stability. They like getting cheated on, because think of how much influence a guy must have to be able to sleep with another women while in a committed relationship with another. Most guys are lucky to get laid so being able to cheat is a high value male behaviour.

The absolute power a 1 percent man is something they can't have, that's why those guys sleep with so many women. Those guys experience the best of women. We have to experience the worst and then put up with it. Even they she still has all the power in the relationship.

Western society, white attractive women in their teens to 50s are the pinnacle. Impossible to sleep with, their more like status symbols.

Do you even talk to women?

Please show this to your sister, your mom or your best girl friend and see how utterly wrong they tell you are.

Do yourself a favor and stop reading that red pill bullshit.
What are a bunch of incels going to teach about women?
It’s like asking a priest about marriage… he doesn’t fucking know.

 

[Jasonbourneyo]

I know you want me to give you some kind of absolute truth, because when reality has been confusing, it feels good to find a way to be correct, even if it comes with the price of never being able to change it. This is the addiction of the red pill, the illusion that one stands far above the battlefield, and can predict all the patterns and transformations occurring down below. Sometimes it is not an illusion.

But for the man who stands face to face and toe to toe with his struggles, who looks into the eyes of chaos, he will live a different kind of life. He will sometimes see beauty, and innocence, fragility in those things he fears most, and strength that he can tame - and other sorts of things, which the one who has escaped permanently to the abstract will never see. He will experience more pain and more joy, and learn that he needs both of them to be alive ... and as he becomes alive, he will speak directly to those things which previously neglected to perceive his existence.

This is the world that one can live a lifetime being right, and never set foot in.

I don't understand what you're saying. What I do know is the modern woman is drowning in sexual options. When it comes to sex, she's like a billionaire. Sex isn't even a need to her. She uses it to control, tame and make men bow down to her will. Men are just disposable to her. How can one even think about getting an attractive gf? You have to look for one that is struggling, one with low self esteem or has a very bad life situation. They are the perfect ones cos they are submissive and one can experience control over them.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Women don't like sex, they like control and power. They wear tight and revealing clothes to be able to reject and throw away men, being able to reject men is like a power trip to them. They love feeling a range of emotions. They like feeling sad, angry and happy. What they hate is calmness and stability. They like getting cheated on, because think of how much influence a guy must have to be able to sleep with another women while in a committed relationship with another. Most guys are lucky to get laid so being able to cheat is a high value male behaviour.

I can smell it. Let me guess.

- age 14-28?
- experiment phase?
- early experience wasn't ideal?
- you are more soft/introvert/more thinking?
- you like analysis? Not actually maths and science. Analysis is like seeing things.
- you like putting things together when you are small. Lego?

If you are a genuine real person,

I'm sorry that a section of the female population has paint the world in such a bad light. In fact, the rise of TikTok and it's narcissism doesn't help it even further.



i believe that your way of doing things is leaning more towards either analysis or seeing the big picture?

I assume that you are this?
You like to play RTS games and your mind needs to see the full picture.

Why not see getting a girlfriend as a way of playing RTS.


z@c+

 

[Jasonbourneyo]

I can smell it. Let me guess.

- age 14-28?
- experiment phase?
- early experience wasn't ideal?
- you are more soft/introvert/more thinking?
- you like analysis? Not actually maths and science. Analysis is like seeing things.
- you like putting things together when you are small. Lego?

If you are a genuine real person,

I'm sorry that a section of the female population has paint the world in such a bad light. In fact, the rise of TikTok and it's narcissism doesn't help it even further.



i believe that your way of doing things is leaning more towards either analysis or seeing the big picture?

I assume that you are this?
You like to play RTS games and your mind needs to see the full picture.

Why not see getting a girlfriend as a way of playing RTS.


z@c+

Yes on all counts.

 

[Will_V]

You have to look for one that is struggling, one with low self esteem or has a very bad life situation. They are the perfect ones cos they are submissive and one can experience control over them.

Good luck with that. You'd be surprised at what a low quality woman can do to a guy with no frame.

I suggest spending lots of time with women, and rather than trying to believe that you know everything about them, instead try to be the one to bring their best side out. You might fail a lot, because women can be impatient with men who don't understand how to deal with them, but in the end it is well worth it.

 

[Jasonbourneyo]

Good luck with that. You'd be surprised at what a low quality woman can do to a guy with no frame.

I suggest spending lots of time with women, and rather than trying to believe that you know everything about them, instead try to be the one to bring their best side out. You might fail a lot, because women can be impatient with men who don't understand how to deal with them, but in the end it is well worth it.

What does no frame mean?

What can a low quality woman do to a guy with no frame?

I'm not trolling, these are genuine questions

 

[Alpha13SC]

Sorry I am going to disagree.

The average/below average woman has a plethora of options. A sea of options to be honest. She's drowning in dick from high value men. From birth till about late 60. She's not going to settle for an average guy, an average guy to her is good for one of the three things:

Amusement.
Validating her by worshipping her.
Resources and time.

As for sex, she gets that from a guy thats part of the top 1 percent of men.

There's nothing a guy that's not part of that 1 percent can do that will have any lasting affect of women.
If he tries to argue with her, doesn't matter. One of the guys in her orbiter will buff up her ego and she will simply forget about him.
If he cheats on her, she might be sad for a bit. But her orbiters will push her ego back up, her friends will encourage her. Society will push her back up again.

Girls like feeling a range of emotions, she enjoys feeling sad, she enjoys feeling angry. What she hates is stability and calmness. You can't do anything to emotionally hurt a woman, if you're not part of the 1 percent.

All this stuff about not being a player and not emotionally hurting women, that's nonsense. Say whatever needs to be said to get what you want from women. Because you can't hurt her. She will forget about you in an instant and jump on some other dick in a flash. If you're not part of the 1 percent, you have to be crafty to get laid. Because these women don't want to have sex, they like having control and power over men. Sex is just something they dangle like a carrot over the guys head to get him to submit. Sex is only for the 1 percent.

A guy outside of the 1 percent is insignificant and worthless to women. A guy outside of the 1 percent has no lasting impression on a woman.

All those memes about fuckbois, only the top 1 percent of men have that power. The rest just have to put up with the nonsense and tbh anyone getting married these days is asking to get fucked over.

The only thing that will give you absolute control over these women is fame. Anything else is simply a placebo. Fame trump's everything. Good looks, height, whatever. Against a famous guy, she will submit.

Can we add a feature to this forum to signal a comment like "redpilled" or something?

Not an attack or something, but I don't want to read something that put down men in front of women.

Almost all the girls that I date they still want to see me, because they need a man like me in their life.

If you truly believe what you're saying, then it's bad. And it's even worse for those who teach you this. Because there will be an internal frustration. Nothing bad with the frustration phase, since I believe almost all of us went through a redpill phase, but this game is not to be hated, nor refused, but learned and played.

It's actually easy to become a very attractive man, but it requires work and discipline and most of the men doesn't have that. How much are you willing to earn more money and develop your lifestyle? How much are you willing to go to gym, take care of your hygiene, skin? And most important, how much are you willing to face fails with women and still like to meet them?

Women don't have the power. If they have it, it's because men give it to them. Unless that, they're very vulnerable. All those "options" that you're talking about, they're not real options. And she knows it. It's your job to become better than them.

Make yourself a favour and take the responsability for your actions, your mistakes and find out how can you become better.

Redpill frustration it's just another story about The fox who didn't reach the grapes.

 

[Jasonbourneyo]

How is a guy supposed to get a girlfriend, when women are bombarded with sexual options? Women don't respect money, looks, any of that shit. The can get money from any simp at the drop of a hat. An attractive woman will always be more attractive than any man. The only way to get a relationship is to be in the 1 percent. The only thing an average good looking woman can't get easily is fame. She can go on tinder and get 1000s of sexual options. She can schedule sex for every hour of every day of week. Imagine if a guy tried to have sex everyday with a different girl. He would have to spend money on hookers, money that he's supposed to used to build himself up. He has to use it to meet his sexual need. Women never have to spend that money. That is one way, women keep men poor. Sex is free for women, she has all the power. A man either becomes the 1 percent or suffers. The modern western woman is put on top. The average male can only supplicate to her or become the 1 percent

 

[Alpha13SC]

How is a guy supposed to get a girlfriend, when women are bombarded with sexual options? Women don't respect money, looks, any of that shit. The can get money from any simp at the drop of a hat. An attractive woman will always be more attractive than any man. The only way to get a relationship is to be in the 1 percent. The only thing an average good looking woman can't get easily is fame. She can go on tinder and get 1000s of sexual options. She can schedule sex for every hour of every day of week. Imagine if a guy tried to have sex everyday with a different girl. He would have to spend money on hookers, money that he's supposed to used to build himself up. He has to use it to meet his sexual need. Women never have to spend that money. That is one way, women keep men poor. Sex is free for women, she has all the power. A man either becomes the 1 percent or suffers. The modern western woman is put on top. The average male can only supplicate to her or become the 1 percent

Supposedly that you're right (You're not, but however) that women want that 1%. What does stops you to become one?

 

[Will_V]

What does no frame mean?

A man with no frame is a man who does not believe he can determine the outcome of the things he is involved in.

What can a low quality woman do to a guy with no frame?

Everything that you think a beautiful woman is capable of doing to 'average' men, a low quality woman can do as well (and often will do 100x worse).

It's not the dog who is happy and content who bites, but the one who feels afraid and weak, who thinks they have no other good way to express themselves.

The reality is that everyone struggles through life trying to get what they want - men trying to find good women and women trying to find good men. Some have it easier than others, but for most it is not easy at all, because most candidates (both men and women) are horribly unprepared for relationships, full of self esteem issues, lacking proper teaching and development, and generally self centered and needy.

And when a woman finds a man who is capable and experienced with the basic things she needs - fucking her well, having enjoyable conversations, going on adventures every now and then, and generally leading her through life without letting her emotions dominate both of them - she won't give him up easily. Because she knows how many guys she had to let inside her mind and body only to end up disappointed with, just to find one who can even manage that.

 

[Jasonbourneyo]

I just don't really know what to do.
I'm getting older. I suck with women. In my early 20s suffered some deaths in my family and it shook me a bit.
Spent my 20s as a wage slave. Sleeping with hookers. Women just not liking me whatsoever. Not going on dates. Just working a few shitty jobs.

I'm almost 35, spent my 20s having sex with hookers, these women didn't give a shit about me. They would just treat me like shit and I was just a customer to all of them. I just feel like I spent my prime not having any good sex and now I don't know what's next for me.

 

[Starboy]

How is a guy supposed to get a girlfriend, when women are bombarded with sexual options? Women don't respect money, looks, any of that shit. The can get money from any simp at the drop of a hat. An attractive woman will always be more attractive than any man. The only way to get a relationship is to be in the 1 percent. The only thing an average good looking woman can't get easily is fame. She can go on tinder and get 1000s of sexual options. She can schedule sex for every hour of every day of week. Imagine if a guy tried to have sex everyday with a different girl. He would have to spend money on hookers, money that he's supposed to used to build himself up. He has to use it to meet his sexual need. Women never have to spend that money. That is one way, women keep men poor. Sex is free for women, she has all the power. A man either becomes the 1 percent or suffers. The modern western woman is put on top. The average male can only supplicate to her or become the 1 percent

You're exagerrating how much sexual abundance a woman has. Majority of women aren't pornstars banging dudes left and right and juggling rotations of men. You're thinking of strictly the hot girls that show off on social ig and tik tok and using that to represent all women. Those girls just monopolized attention,but they have little intention of banging most of the simps u see thirsting for her. She's just taking advantage of the free attention.

Do you ever consider or think about women who are just average or below average in looks? These girls don't have the sexual abundance that you believe all women have and neither does the normal hot girl. Not every girl feels as hot as the low value men will pedestalize her. Just because men wanna fuck her doesn't mean that they're good sexual options.

If a bunch of weird,unattractive,plain looking women were thirsting for you and wanted to bang you would you consider yourself to have sexual abundance? You have this wrong notion that women are drowning in dick which is just false. Most women aren't motivated in having tons of sexual partners like us men are.

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[Alpha13SC]

I just don't really know what to do.
I'm getting older. I suck with women. In my early 20s suffered some deaths in my family and it shook me a bit.
Spent my 20s as a wage slave. Sleeping with hookers. Women just not liking me whatsoever. Not going on dates. Just working a few shitty jobs.

I'm almost 35, spent my 20s having sex with hookers, these women didn't give a shit about me. They would just treat me like shit and I was just a customer to all of them. I just feel like I spent my prime not having any good sex and now I don't know what's next for me.

That s another thing man. If you're having a low moment, we can help you. But you must be willing to do the work. And then you'll see how life becomes better.

 

[Will_V]

I just don't really know what to do.
I'm getting older. I suck with women. In my early 20s suffered some deaths in my family and it shook me a bit.
Spent my 20s as a wage slave. Sleeping with hookers. Women just not liking me whatsoever. Not going on dates. Just working a few shitty jobs.

I'm almost 35, spent my 20s having sex with hookers, these women didn't give a shit about me. They would just treat me like shit and I was just a customer to all of them. I just feel like I spent my prime not having any good sex and now I don't know what's next for me.

The good news is that since you're a man, you have much more time to fix your shit. 35 really isn't that old - but it is the prime of life, so it isn't to be wasted.

Forget everything you think you know about women from being with hookers. They are not normal women. Just accept that until you have spent enough time with normal women, you don't know what they are.

It's time to get to work on yourself man. Draw up a plan of a life (apart from women) you'd enjoy, something that would make you happy, that would feel like an achievement. And as you work your way toward it, find ways to be around women, to learn about them, and to involve them in the journey.

The thing is, women are followers. They need a leader. That's why it's harder to get women when your life isn't together, when you're not happy, because they look at you and say 'if he can't get what he wants on his own, with me following along, depending on him, it will be even worse'. When you fix your life, when you learn what you like and what you don't, and build a lifestyle that is tailored to your satisfaction, she will take a look at it and say 'well he's a guy who knows what he wants and makes it happen, guess he can handle me too, so I'll tag along'.