Must You Be in the Top 1% of Men to Do Well with Women?

[Jasonbourneyo]

I split this off @Warped Mindless's thread, since it was derailing.

Started jotting off a quick response pointing out how guys get this mentality, then figured it'd serve better as an article.

Here's the piece -- my response to / thoughts on this kind of thinking:

"Women Are Worshipped & Men Are Disposable" Is a Fantasy

Society doesn’t care about men. Women are worshipped. For this reason, men can’t get women. Is this true? Or is it… fantasy? We had a guy register on our forum and derail a thread to talk about how if you're "not in the top 1% of men" women don't want you and you can't get girls. Needless to...

www.girlschase.com

Chase

Wow Chase when I made this post I didn't think an article would be made thanks, I admit I was in such a bad mindset. I had just enough of not getting laid and it just seems that even the girls that are my friend have no interest in having sex with me.

I don't get laid, I have been laid 3 times in the last ten years and those were the only times I didn't pay for it. Two of those where completely drunk hookup.

I just wanna get laid more with girls that I dont have to pay for. I don't even mind being a wage slave as long as I have a girl that actually likes me and sleeps with me without financial motivation.

But being a wage slave plus having no girls that wanna sleep with me and spending my wages on hookers. Is just so shitty and terrible. It just seems that life is better for a woman. I am gonna take time to read your article.

The main thing for me is that I'm in my 30s, if I don't have good sex now when would I. It also just seems that girls don't wanna have sex, they wanna have validation and resources of a man but sleep with him????? Hell no!

I guess I just need to trust what you guys say that if I improve myself that it's possible for me to get a girl that will sleep with me without any financial motivation and without being rock star level famous. That's the main point which I still am not sure about

 

[0---]

Be top 1 percent means basically be famous. Women throw themselves at famous guys.

If that were true there'd be 40M famous men out there.

 

[Bismarck]

I can think of more than one famous person who got ostracized of late - for instance, since this #metoo nonsense started.

Guys like Louis C.K., Dave Chapelle, Aziz Ansari, etc.

Also, if girls “just threw themselves” at famous people, why would guys like Robert Williams, or Anthony Bourdain kill themselves?

It’s clear this is just another one of the trolls rallying around Velasco (Mist22). *sigh* Another one to put on ignore.

 

[0---]

I can think of more than one famous person who got ostracized of late - for instance, since this #metoo nonsense started.

Guys like Louis C.K., Dave Chapelle, Aziz Ansari, etc.

Also, if girls “just threw themselves” at famous people, why would guys like Robert Williams, or Anthony Bourdain kill themselves?

It’s clear this is just another one of the trolls rallying around Velasco (Mist22). *sigh* Another one to put on ignore.

There is no way Louis CK got any significant amount of pussy even before he got cancelled. I mean look at the shit he got cancelled for, it doesn't get more pathetic than that.

You can drown in pussy and still suffer from depression.


But yeah all of this is beside the point.



Fame can be a helpful ingredient to getting laid, but it is by no means necessary.


(Also, loads of famous actors got famous because they were sexy and had fundamentals down first.)


This entire thread is intellectual masturbation and a search for excuses. Just hit the gym, dress well, learn game, talk to women.


And STFU about all the stuff you don't have in life. It's not sexy.

 

[Jasonbourneyo]

I guess reading the posts and replies. I can see that alright I don't need to be famous. But it's like what value does a man have to a woman? It's like she kinda has everything, validation, sex, finances and options. So why would she be interested in a normal guy? I guess that's the main question. Being famous as a guy is something she doesnt have so it makes sense why she would hook up with him. I guess I just need to read chase's article. I honestly wasn't trolling, it just was what I was seeing and reading on the internet and it just seemed to be true based on the experiences I've seen.

 

[ulrich]

Be top 1 percent means basically be famous. Women throw themselves at famous guys.

Yeah, sure.
Danny Devito is probably swimming in pussy.

 

[0---]

I guess reading the posts and replies. I can see that alright I don't need to be famous. But it's like what value does a man have to a woman? It's like she kinda has everything, validation, sex, finances and options. So why would she be interested in a normal guy? I guess that's the main question. Being famous as a guy is something she doesnt have so it makes sense why she would hook up with him. I guess I just need to read chase's article. I honestly wasn't trolling, it just was what I was seeing and reading on the internet and it just seemed to be true based on the experiences I've seen.

You need to change how you feel about yourself.


If you truly feel you have nothing to add to a woman's life....


...then that's true.


So better go change that. Learn some inner game.

 

[ulrich]

I guess reading the posts and replies. I can see that alright I don't need to be famous. But it's like what value does a man have to a woman? It's like she kinda has everything, validation, sex, finances and options. So why would she be interested in a normal guy? I guess that's the main question. Being famous as a guy is something she doesnt have so it makes sense why she would hook up with him. I guess I just need to read chase's article. I honestly wasn't trolling, it just was what I was seeing and reading on the internet and it just seemed to be true based on the experiences I've seen.

She wants to be understood and cherished for who she is.
And she is not stupid enough to think that validation = cherish.

 

[0---]

Yeah, sure.
Danny Devito is probably swimming in pussy.

To be fair he probably is. Man's got charisma.

 

[think]

I can see that alright I don't need to be famous

it's more than just alright, for me it's ideal. I love my anonymity. I would shoot myself if I 1) was constantly interrupted by paparazzi and strangers throughout my day when I just wanted to be left alone 2) everyone knew what I was up to, at all times 3) had randoms wanting to squirm their way into my life because they want some of what I've got 4) couldn't tell if my friends or girlfriends were nice to me just because of my status or because they actually liked me 5) being afraid of doing what I wanted whenever I wanted because I would have the world judging my every move

 

[Jasonbourneyo]

I guess it was just like as a normal guy what value would I offer to a woman's life, especially when it seems that women have everything

 

[mist]

I guess it was just like as a normal guy what value would I offer to a woman's life, especially when it seems that women have everything

Are you invested in this mindset or are you invested in your development and possibly getting some women?

No one here is going to change your mind. You'd get more value making approaches and writing an FR about it than peddling a mindset you've seen other men already overcome and has been written about billions of times.

What are you invested in?

From an outside perspective man, it does not look like you're interested in actually learning to give much value to anyone tbh. Seems like you are coping man. Worst part is you don't even have to cope with this decision.

We have limited focus, time, and potential... one more time

Are you invested in this mindset or are you invested in your development and possibly getting some women? No one is going to save you man.

It’s clear this is just another one of the trolls rallying around Velasco (Mist22). *sigh* Another one to put on ignore.

What posts specifically have made me come off as trollish, anti-authority, and as an instigator?

I'd rather not be associated in the same camp as Jason. I am not like him nor am I bandwagon Velasco, redpill, new-school. Lmk if you would @Bismarck

 

[Starboy]

@Bismarck yeah mist is definetly not velasco. Velasco was an asshole living in nyc who had his ip addresses banned and mist is a 19 yr old kid living in the midwest.

 

[Starboy]

I guess reading the posts and replies. I can see that alright I don't need to be famous. But it's like what value does a man have to a woman? It's like she kinda has everything, validation, sex, finances and options. So why would she be interested in a normal guy?

Most girls are normal themselves. Like a lot of red pill guys you have some tunnel vision and seem to be focusing on the girls on social media who look privileged and have hundreds of thousands of followers supporting her and think she must have many options. First of all most of those dudes suck I mean the way they look,behave and act they are not viable options for the girl. They just support her by the online attention they provide. Even these girls aren't as powerful as you think. They are just excellent marketers.

Reality is most girls are not influencers and have basic lives just like you and I. The regular 21 year old girl goes to class,works some regular wage slave job on the side goes home to her family,sleeps,socializes with her friends every now and then repeats it. The hot girls at my gym as far as I know are regular girls who are not privileged and live normal lives. You need to go out and socialize more with girls and really expand your circle.

Also not every girl is blessed with good looks or are born plain at best so they definetly don't have the privileges or options you generalize most women to have.

 

[DarkKnight]

@Starboy then you have the influencer wannabes who rack up followers on social media but are super plain in real life. I know plenty of em too. Especially in the gym.

 

[Baron]

An attractive woman will always be more attractive than any man.

Man, do you know how much time the average "attractive" woman has to spend in the bathroom just to walk out the door in the morning or go out on a Friday night? Let alone all the surgeries, injections etc. that many of them get done. How much time do you need as a man? That should be an eye opener in itself.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Like a lot of red pill guys you have some tunnel vision and seem to be focusing on the girls on social media who look privileged and have hundreds of thousands of followers supporting her and think she must have many options. First of all most of those dudes suck I mean the way they look,behave and act they are not viable options for the girl. They just support her by the online attention they provide. Even these girls aren't as powerful as you think. They are just excellent marketers.

then you have the influencer wannabes who rack up followers on social media but are super plain in real life. I know plenty of em too. Especially in the gym

If I took my Delusion of Success post, and merge with this two notes.

Here's what I found:

1) The Perception of (Image, Video, Engage)
2) Reality (Tangible)
3) The Exaggeration

Here's why all of us are so pissed at girls. And this is fair. I understand why now.

We see a girl that we kinda like, have all the engagement on her Instagram and TikTok. Members be like, @Starboy is full of crap. I see this guy with this girl, and he is posting her and bragging about her.

NOw, what just happened?

Redpilled Zac, who is tunnel vision... happens to see this intertwine and stacked together and at levels.

1) Zac didn't see her being a great marketer
2) Zac didn't see her boyfriend chase her monkey ass for 2 years
3) Zac didn't see that they are exaggerating because Gen Z terms of 'marriage and forever' is actually 2 weeks at best.

Amazing eh?

I hope this helps understand.
And I hope that Girlschase members understand that it's not the hate. But rather the source. I guess the old saying and why our society is burning right now.

WHY MEN 'HATE' WOMEN.....

WE all just wanted a real opportunity. Not find out she has a fucking boyfriend after bitching on the web and shaking her ass on TikTok for 1 straight month. "I HATE ALL MEN".

Bless. I'm FREER than ever.
z@c+

 

[ulrich]

Like a lot of red pill guys you have some tunnel vision and seem to be focusing on the girls on social media who look privileged and have hundreds of thousands of followers supporting her and think she must have many options.

I agree with @Starboy here.
@Jasonbourneyo you have a strong case of tunnel vision/survivorship bias because prostitutes and Instagram stars are your only girls reference.

Yes, they have thousand of options and are pretty much interested in financial success.
But you have to realize that this is less than 1% of the female population.

It feels like you need to be part of the 1% of men but you are also looking at the top 1% of women (and that is 1% on the scale of fame… there are more useful scales to grade a woman like wether she is girlfriend material or not).
No wonder you think you need to be an exceptional man, you’re looking at exceptional women!!!!

The average girl is far from unreachable… she is pretty nice and accommodating.
But you probably won’t believe it until you experience it.

So man, you MUST expand your dating pool and meet NORMAL girls.
They will blow your mind. I assure you.

 

[windsofchange]

I guess it was just like as a normal guy what value would I offer to a woman's life, especially when it seems that women have everything

Brother I was where you are, so trust me when I say, there is ALOT you can offer. But more important, more you can offer yourself.

In the past few years I've gotten laid while:
- Being broke
- Living with my parents into my 30s
- Being fat
- Average penis size
- Ethnic minority that doesn't have good stereotypes with women

You DEFINITELY don't need to be top 1% to sleep with women. You might need to do more effort on yourself to get the hotter ones yes, but its definitely doable.

 

[Jasonbourneyo]

Brother I was where you are, so trust me when I say, there is ALOT you can offer. But more important, more you can offer yourself.

In the past few years I've gotten laid while:
- Being broke
- Living with my parents into my 30s
- Being fat
- Average penis size
- Ethnic minority that doesn't have good stereotypes with women

You DEFINITELY don't need to be top 1% to sleep with women. You might need to do more effort on yourself to get the hotter ones yes, but its definitely doable.

I just feel like I don't have anything to offer them and so I just don't expect them to be interested