Socializing My COVID-19 first hand experience (yes, I had it)

[Skills]

The thing with the masks @Skills is that unless you're wearing the medical N95 mask that filters out air particles (even then we don't really know how much protection it offers against corona) wearing a regular mask offers minimum protection against covid. Some reports suggests masks only can provide 5 to 15 percent protection from being exposed to someone who has covid and that's assuming they're wearing a good enough mask that's wrapped tightly around their nose. The purpose of masks is to prevent others from spreading covid before they're aware they have it because of the incubation period and the fact that some people don't display symptoms when they have it. If other people don't wear masks the risk isn't in them catching covid as much as it is them spreading it without knowing they have it. So even if those bouncers and doormen wore their masks they coulda still caught it from covid droplets or aerosol particles lingering in the air from people who didn't wear their masks or took it off briefly.

 

[Starboy]

@Skills.....honestly now....ahahaha.

Fighting Life's "What Ifs"

Why we worry, fuss, and fret far more than we need to.

www.psychologytoday.com

I visit my parents, brother and sister every so often and none of us wear masks while we're together. I hug each of them when I see them and hug them good bye every time I leave. And I love my parents. Sorry you can't do that because you've been brainwashed by sensational media (your sources from the "Covid and Politics Discussion" were People.com and USAToday.com, and Skills's source in this thread was GMA (Good Morning America)) into being afraid you'll kill them. For every Clare Kane and POB, there are hundreds of thousands, of us that experienced it just like the flu. Hence the analogy

Hey man u can believe and think whatever u like i'm not going to keep going back and forth with you. I don't have anything further to add and it's not how I want to spend my time. All imma say is i'm not afraid to be around my family and i'm not brainwashed by anybody.

 

[Skills]

@Skills.....honestly now....ahahaha.

Fighting Life's "What Ifs"

Why we worry, fuss, and fret far more than we need to.

www.psychologytoday.com

I visit my parents, brother and sister every so often and none of us wear masks while we're together. I hug each of them when I see them and hug them good bye every time I leave. And I love my parents. Sorry you can't do that because you've been brainwashed by sensational media (your sources from the "Covid and Politics Discussion" were People.com and USAToday.com, and Skills's source in this thread was GMA (Good Morning America)) into being afraid you'll kill them. For every Clare Kane and POB, there are hundreds of thousands, of us that experienced it just like the flu. Hence the analogy

You Hugh them cause you already had it, just lol at your logic... You can party without fear cause you already had it....

@Starboy look at gauchi video on masks, about they help with preventing as well... i found the meta analysis he talks about https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7253999/

 

[Velasco]

You Hugh them cause you already had it, just lol at your logic... You can party without fear cause you already had it..

From what they're telling us, you don't really develop anti bodies? You can catch it again and again? I don't know what to believe anymore. So much bullshit out there

I know someone who got it twice.

@Starboy look at gauchi video on masks, about they help with preventing as well.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1319021544505593861

 

[Skills]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1319021544505593861

Strong evidence using twiter over cientific sources and control experiments with CITATIONS.... Facepalm on steroids and convid mixed in the hand!


Reminds me of this video:

 

[Velasco]

(There is no Mask Mandate in Sweden)

More mask charts

More mask charts that show the (lack of) correlation between mask mandates and cases or hospitalizations

rationalground.com

 

[Tony D]

I found this study from the CDC on masks which I found interesting. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

"In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I2 = 30%, p = 0.25) (Figure 2). One study evaluated the use of masks among pilgrims from Australia during the Hajj pilgrimage and reported no major difference in the risk for laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infection in the control or mask group (33). Two studies in university settings assessed the effectiveness of face masks for primary protection by monitoring the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza among student hall residents for 5 months"

I just refuse to wear them unless it's enforced, and won't shop places that mandate it. Even then, once I'm in the store, I take it off. I'm a jerk though. Don't follow me.

(Edit. And this...) https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/1...ity-of-people-getting-coronavirus-wore-masks/

 

[Científico]

From what they're telling us, you don't really develop anti bodies? You can catch it again and again? I don't know what to believe anymore. So much bullshit out there.

There seem to be some cases of reinfection, so the immune response to this thing isn't always robust. Might end up being a challenge when it comes to vaccine development. But monkey studies have shown that protective immunity does come up in most cases after clearing an infection and lasts at least several months.

There is a lot we don't understand about this stupid virus, since it's new, contributing to the confusion.

One thing is for sure, I am not going to hide away in a bubble for the next two years, even knowing the risk. Any scientist or public health expert that tells you we will have a vaccine within 6-12 months is being VERY optimistic - I am not convinced at all about some of these rosy timelines that have been floating around.

Decide what level of risk is acceptable to you and go from there. And stay away from your 70 year old grandma if you're taking more risk.

 

[Skills]

I found this study from the CDC on masks which I found interesting. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

"In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I2 = 30%, p = 0.25) (Figure 2). One study evaluated the use of masks among pilgrims from Australia during the Hajj pilgrimage and reported no major difference in the risk for laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infection in the control or mask group (33). Two studies in university settings assessed the effectiveness of face masks for primary protection by monitoring the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza among student hall residents for 5 months"

I just refuse to wear them unless it's enforced, and won't shop places that mandate it. Even then, once I'm in the store, I take it off. I'm a jerk though. Don't follow me.

(Edit. And this...) https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/1...ity-of-people-getting-coronavirus-wore-masks/

We are talking about corona, i posted a study on corona, lets say in seduction terms we are talking about day game and you post statistics on online game.... Facepalm!

I just posted the studies, read my response and watch the video on an expert on lets say day game.... Vs some troll from twitter (velasco studies)



By the way velasco and all this people against mask GOT THE VIRUS just lol....

I have not gotten the virus, i will go to clubs with mask and report back...Like i have been doing...

 

[Velasco]

We are talking about corona, i posted a study on corona, lets say in seduction terms we are talking about day game and you post statistics on online game.... Facepalm!

Moving the goal posts / doubling down....

You posted in response to Starboy's comment a video from Fauci's 60 Minutes video. Who said this back in May:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1257868855986307072

So I responded to that (which you are now telling guys to dismiss as just a troll post, the fact that top journals refuse to release the study which will back up those charts. That masks are ineffective in preventing the spread of the virus).

Here's a couple more:

"We do not recommend requiring the general public who do not have symptoms of COVID... to routinely wear cloth or surgical masks because there is no scientific evidence they are effective in reducing the risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission"

COMMENTARY: Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data

www.cidrap.umn.edu

“There is limited evidence that wearing a medical mask by healthy individuals in households… or among attendees of mass gatherings [you know....like inside a nightclub] may be beneficial as a measure preventing transmission.”

Advice on the use of masks in the community, during home care and in healthcare settings in the context of the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak

Interim guidance

www.who.int

"Guys guys guys, lets get back to corona..."

I have not gotten the virus

Yeah I don't know if I had it too, I was in bed without being able to move for 2 days same as you..

Just stop and save yourself further embarrassment...You're still my boy tho lol....

 

[Skills]

Moving the goal posts / doubling down....

You posted in response to Starboy's comment a video from Fauci's 60 Minutes video. Who said this back in May:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1257868855986307072

So I responded to that (which you are now telling guys to dismiss as just a troll post, the fact that top journals refuse to release the study which will back up those charts. That masks are ineffective in preventing the spread of the virus).

Here's a couple more:

"We do not recommend requiring the general public who do not have symptoms of COVID... to routinely wear cloth or surgical masks because there is no scientific evidence they are effective in reducing the risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission"

COMMENTARY: Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data

www.cidrap.umn.edu

“There is limited evidence that wearing a medical mask by healthy individuals in households… or among attendees of mass gatherings [you know....like inside a nightclub] may be beneficial as a measure preventing transmission.”

Advice on the use of masks in the community, during home care and in healthcare settings in the context of the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak

Interim guidance

www.who.int

"Guys guys guys, lets get back to corona..."



Just stop and save yourself further embarrassment...You're still my boy tho lol....

it was not the virus (i discuss that point with my new main after i posted this) and it could not have been cause when it happened (in bed without moving was around sept. 2019) the virus came in 2020...

Again, you had the virus, i did not... So people can listen to you, (who had the virus) or me (who never had the virus) in seduction terms are you going to listen to a dude that gets laid or a virgin

p.s. the video you posted of THE DUDE FROM cauchi or whatever his name is was BEFORE THE STUDIES CAME OUt, dude i posted the video of him refuting himself, jesus christ now you are cherry picking....

 

[Train]

To be fair, I've been a hermit since March and still got it, possibly multiple times.

Edit: Also wore mask when mandated. Annoying but still complied.

 

[Velasco]

it was not the virus (i discuss that point with my new main after i posted this) and it could not have been cause when it happened (in bed without moving was around sept. 2019) the virus came in 2020...

Then it was the flu. I've had a flu before 2020 and I went through the same thing this year in March. Took a bunch of advil pills, drank hot tea with lemon+ginger, and laid in bed for 3 days.

So people can listen to you, (who had the virus) or me (who never had the virus) in seduction terms are you going to listen to a dude that gets laid or a virgin

In this case I am the guy who gets laid (cause I got it and am telling u its not a big deal) and u are the virgin who has no idea how bad it is, just speculating based on what you've heard and read from other guys who've said they had it.

 

[Skills]

In this case I am the guy who gets laid (cause I got it and am telling u its not a big deal) and u are the virgin who has no idea how bad it is, just speculating based on what you've heard and read from other guys who've said they had it.

Incorrect, i am the dude that wore the mask and never got it = pro mask = gets laid

you are the dude anti mask = got it= virgin

lol, velasco you are the master twister of facts, dude don't you think i want to go out to clubs and no wear a mask, do you actually think i gain anything about this silly arguments when i cite cientific proof while you post outdated old videos and twiter....

 

[Velasco]

outdated....the dates on the graph stretch out to October 14, 2020. maybe ur right things might have really changed in the past 11 days so who knows lol.

But ya now this is getting into a silly piss contest lol.

anyway good luck

 

[Skills]

outdated....the dates on the graph stretch out to October 14, 2020. maybe ur right things might have really changed in the past 11 days so who knows lol.

But ya now this is getting into a silly piss contest lol.

anyway good luck

dude the beauty of me and you, we can argue and bust each others balls, and we are cool! the European counterparts should take note...

 

[SexualHero]

One thing--

COVID is a highly contagious airborne pathogen. Huge swaths of the population have it. Most are asymptomatic. If you haven't had it yet (maybe you have and didn't feel anything), you're going to get it, sooner or later.

You can hide inside if you want. However, unless you're in a hermetically sealed fallout shelter with enough food and water supplies to last you until the virus has totally run its way through society and no longer has hosts left to jump through (probably 2-3 years), you're going to get it sooner or later anyway. It's unavoidable.

Might as well get it sooner and get over it so you can get back to living your life instead of hiding under a rock.

Plenty of open beds in the hospitals right now in case of the uncommon event that things do turn out for ill...

Chase

Yeah getting and it not having serious case and not infecting anybody else who has serious case is the best possible outcome. However, I am not so sure about the fact that infection is unavoidable. Currently there is only 0.5 % confirmed case ( out of whole world population ). I read the article that WHO thinks real cases are up to 20x more, or 10% infected. Still, with only 10% it doesn't seem to me that you HAVE to be infected, unless cases really start ramping up in the following months...

Having said that, people who visit this forum are probably in high risk group. You know, this whole meeting new girls and having sex with them thing

 

[POB]

Also, props on being so healthy for 26 years! That probably helped you get less affected (lungs, etc.)

Thx!

PS
Why would lifters have it worse, can you elaborate on your theory?

Not a theory, just observation.
Fittest people get better fast and at the same time get the worst symptoms IME.
My guess is it's just the fastest metabolism, but I can't back it up with science

PSS
Did you have access to private or public health?

Private...but we also had a good public emergency plan in my state.

 

[POB]

I just want some clarification on your closing remarks.

My point is we don't have the means to know what symptoms you gonna get! Or if this shit is gonna attack your lungs.
Yeah, most ppl feel nothing or just a small flu...but how can you know for sure if you are one of those?

If I understand you correctly, you got the virus while you were in complete isolation.

Probably from the supermarket which was the only place I was visiting outside my place or my GFs place.

So in terms of practical advice, this means in order to be guys to be 100% safe, this means not going out or seeing anyone

Yep. pretty much. But will you be able to live like a monk for that long?

I apologize for laughing at this virus's face especially since there are guys like you, who had a very traumatic experience,

No prob.

but I think I will take my chances and continue to step outside of my apartment and interact with people without any fear

Good luck, Just pay attention to your body like I did.

 

[POB]

There are 3 choices everyone can make right now:

1) live like a monk until they test an effective vaccine, which is prob gonna take forever;
2) go out a bit with control, avoid crowds, chill out more on your place and fuck only women you know you can trust (like FBs and the likes from your current roster);
3) don't give a fuck and live like it's 2019;

Which sound the smartest?