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Old head here, What material are you guys following for pickup?

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Tribal Elder
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Well, this bring back memories hahaha

Look, being 100% honest, you closing this girl was foolsmate. You were at the right place and the right time. It’s not something to get upset about. Many men wouldn’t approach her. You did and fucked her. With little to no game but the fact you approached her and had a plan of where to go made you different.

the fact that I saw mistakes like I clearly said that Based on MY experience shouldn’t upset you. You use very little game. Good for you. Based on your report you met her and fucked her within 20 minutes of meeting her. Why would you get offended with what I posted?

Look, your response to my comment I’ve seen hundreds of times before. It speaks more about you than me. If I were you I would of ignored it and move on. I mean I’m just a dude on the internet. Who cares what I think if you’re frame is solid. But whatever.

I didn’t join here to get into a flame war with anyone. I just saw reports that I felt used little to no game. So I was curious what people here where using to pickup women.

no big deal. Like I said, I’m not here to cause trouble. Good on you for that foolsmate. Keep it up kid
This none sense...
 

Ybatman

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Yes, you did not mean harm, i saw that, but you neg him indirectly... Not your intention... I like to point old heads here first:

If I negged him I apologize. It comes off automatic some times. Old habits you know.

Sorry James if that offended you
 

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Tribal Elder
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If I negged him I apologize. It comes off automatic some times. Old habits you know.

Sorry James if that offended you
new gen more sensitive you are gen x, gen z a bit more sensitive.. If they don't know you, i had the same issue, now i Hammer them they know is love... oh forgot this:


this one is good too, form gen x to z:



About the fools mate argument with james d for context:

 

James D

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Look, your response to my comment I’ve seen hundreds of times before. It speaks more about you than me.
Seen your response 100 times too ;)

So easy to back away in the "I didn't mean it" land when you indirectly insult.

Anyway, had you been nicer, I might have shared the secret seduction material I've been reading that led me to fuck that chick so fast 😝

If you were a one time poster, sure, you're just a random guy on the internet.

If you'll hang around here more, tho, gotta work on your etiquette.

Being a random dude on the internet doesn't give you an excuse to be throwing indirect insults.

Anyways, yeah, seems you didn't mean any harm (probably).

Let's just wrap this up here.

Sunday today. Got some approaching to do.

Welcome to the boards, looking forward to seeing your reports.
 

Ybatman

Space Monkey
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Seen your response 100 times too ;)

So easy to back away in the "I didn't mean it" land when you indirectly insult.

Anyway, had you been nicer, I might have shared the secret seduction material I've been reading that led me to fuck that chick so fast 😝

If you were a one time poster, sure, you're just a random guy on the internet.

If you'll hang around here more, tho, gotta work on your etiquette.

Being a random dude on the internet doesn't give you an excuse to be throwing indirect insults.

Anyways, yeah, seems you didn't mean any harm (probably).

Let's just wrap this up here.

Sunday today. Got some approaching to do.

Welcome to the boards, looking forward to seeing your reports.
All good bro
 
you miss 100% of the shots you don't take

TwoNameGame

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When walking towards or next to a woman near a classroom door or building door, Starbucks, etc. make sure you open the door and you lets her walk in before you.
Great advice all around! Most doors at my uni are either kept open or open automatically, but I made sure to take my date through a pay where I held the door for her. I agree with your points on holding the door, as it is a habit, albeit one I haven't yet used as an opener.
 

Will_V

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A seduction is something that basically pulls someone away from the path that they're on.
Think Odysseus and the Sirens.

The thing is so good, so enticing, so alluring, so attractive - that the person that was going one way, goes a different way - toward the thing that has captured their attention.

At first out of novelty and curiousity, but then out of want, out of hunger. Something less intellectual, and more primal and physical.

IMO, at a high level, PUA is a "seduction" - is drawing a chick into a situation where before she was not thinking about sex, much less sex with the particular PUA, and she then finds herself ass up in the back of a Hyundai Elantra.

That's what a fast seduction is. It's not that the chick likes you or doesn't like you, that you're compatible or not compatible, but it's more like putting her in a situation where she can't control herself.
  • At the Gucci store after she gets her Income Tax Refund
  • At a bakery with every possible sweet sugary thing available
  • Hanging out with her most gossipy friend and getting the tea on everything
  • Bottomless Mimosas at brunch
  • stalking her Ex on social media
There's no force involved, no control, no coercion. She just can't resist it.

Never seen it described better. This is the sauce that I see missing from a lot of field reports around here.

If a dude is not embodying something that draws her in hard, something that makes everything and everyone else seem boring in comparison, but is instead just going up and asking random questions and number grabbing, the chances of it going anywhere are slim unless she really can't be arsed to go and find a dude herself.

And especially if a dude is feeling bad, anxious, tense, put upon, etc for having to approach, not only is there nothing to draw her in, she's repelled.

The most powerful asset a guy has is the way he himself views the world, how he experiences himself as he moves through it, exuding it like an electromagnetic field wherever he goes. Your world has to be a more exciting, more visceral, more present, more primal one than anything she's experienced, so that when she sees you her attention is captured and she's stirred.

One girl I was seeing who I met daygaming, whenever she came over, she'd walk through the door, turn around, and just sort of look at me slightly open mouthed, chin down, waiting. I was her connection to an experience her boring day to day life could never give her, with me she realized who she really was. The same way a movie awakens something when you watch it and you wish you could leave all the mundane bs of your life behind.

That to me is what seduction really is, it's awakening something in her that had gone to sleep when 'real life' took over.

As far as the op question, I don't consume a lot of seduction material except for girls chase, and to some extent the natural lifestyles. I'm a pretty intuitive person so as long as I understand the high level process and mistakes not to make I like to keep the rest as spontaneous as possible. I've picked up some good insight and pointers from a variety of places (for example one of the things I often reflect on and remind myself of is Mystery's gem about how frame control is everything), but I haven't gone deeply enough into anything else to say that I draw from it.
 

Teevster

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Look, being 100% honest, you closing this girl was foolsmate. You were at the right place and the right time. It’s not something to get upset about. Many men wouldn’t approach her. You did and fucked her. With little to no game but the fact you approached her and had a plan of where to go made you different.

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