Pros and Cons of being a bouncer (from a bouncer’s perspective!)

[noobslay3r]

Howdy y’all,

I’m a former bouncer. I’ve worked at a busy bar/club on 6th street in Austin, a somewhat upscale strip club, and a large pool hall in a rough part of town. All three were very different experiences and helped broaden my perspective.

I come to you today hours before I start my first shift in a new bar on 6th street after a hiatus of about 5-6 months. I’d like to discuss the potential pros and cons of working as a bouncer, both in a personal and a general sense. Hopefully I can get some advice about my personal situation and answer any questions you guys might have about bouncing. Forgive me if I fuck up some of the pickup terms. Still new to all this.

Pros:

-Tons of contact with attractive girls (on 6th street in particular)

-Getting paid to be out (sometimes drinking for free). I’m currently unemployed and need to start bringing in some cash. I got a good chunk of change in the bank, but I hate seeing it slowly disappear.

-Position of authority

-Better access to hot bartenders (industry people often date other industry people)

-Potential to work your way up to bartender or manager....better pay and higher value with those positions

-The benefits of building connections:
1) Lots of free drinks for you and your friends/dates on off nights

2) Said friends and dates enjoying things more and feeling more comfortable since they are there with an insider

3) Pre-selection with bar staff (this slowly grows outside your bar over time as people move on to other bars), regulars, and other industry people who are also out on off nights.

Cons (these change from person to person so I’m focusing mostly on personal cons):

-Limited ability to approach. Sometimes you can sit and talk for awhile, but ultimately you’re working and you’re limited in your interactions.

-Playing off the previous point, you might lose out on the opportunity to work on your game on the busy weekend nights and you’re much less likely to be able to stop and have a good chat with things being so busy.

-It might stunt the development of your game. I’m tall, muscular, and not too ugly. I got some decent value and pre-selection to work with. I got a high volume of drunk girls passing by. I might just fall into the comfortable trap of waiting for girls to come to me, which they will...and it’s rarely the girls I really want to approach. It’s lazy, passive, and doesn’t actually help me in my goal to find the girl I really want. It stunts the development of game. No doubt you will improve in some ways from picking up these girls, but you’ll be crippled in some other areas.

-SNLs are extremely rare. A girl may wanna fuck you at 11 o’clock, but you gotta work several more hours. A girl may wanna fuck you at 2 o’clock, but you still gotta kick them out and clean up and get your tip out for the night which takes at least another hour. On rare occasion you might be able to let them stick around inside and somehow keep them interested while you clean for an hour.....or maybe they find their way home and actually wait up for you....or maybe they just wait in their car. All very low percentage scenarios.

-As a result of the last point, you get lots of numbers that flake the next day when they sober up.

-Being a bouncer has value in some girls’ eyes, but it works to your detriment with others. Tough when you want a smart girl with a decent career who doesn’t party very much.

-Personally, it can take a physical and mental toll. Less energy and more aches and pains can dissuade anyone from working out. And the desire to drink is a big vice for me. Working sober can be very boring and draining....drinking makes it much more enjoyable and also helps numb those aches and pains. It also makes me way better with girls (probably true for most guys...as long as they don’t get sloppy). As someone who’s into physical fitness and wants to get shredded for the first time ever....drinking = lots of empty calories.

-Pay isn’t great...it might detract from my ability or desire to pursue more ideal avenues of income...particularly passive or online sources.



I’m thinking I might try to just take like 3 nights a week for now. I’m thinking something like tues, thurs, fri to have a break between the three shifts with Saturday’s open so I can have at least one busy night to go out. Maybe Wednesday-Friday so I can have 4 day weekends...nice if I wanna have a mini vacation.

Anyways, I’m wondering what some of you more experienced guys are thinking. How do I use this position to get great results while also improving? I think it’s a great opportunity for getting girls as long as I don’t let it stunt my progress with game or with fitness.

I don’t NEED this work. I could possibly go out every single night otherwise. But drinking as much as I want and spending all the money on overpriced drinks every night aren’t sustainable. The money and free drinks and the extra exercise would be really nice for sustainability while still kind of being “out”.

Welcome to hear any thoughts and opinions and also answer questions about being a bouncer.

 

[Hue]

How do I use this position to get great results while also improving?

If you're trying to get more SNL's or get girls who you will see later, focus on making strong impacts quickly and getting numbers with plans quickly. That probably won't mean getting a 1 on 1 date, but it will mean leveraging social circle (the club you work at and the access to the scene you're in) to get more girls.

I work in the industry as well, and one of the most fun parts of it is the after parties. If you meet a couple of wild, hot girls who like to party all night, tell them about the after party you guys have going on later and grab their numbers. They'll see you as a high value guy and likely assume preselection. Whether there's an after party or not, you now have their contact, set a good frame (other than potential for them to use you for your resources), and are no longer a stranger. Meet them again that night or during another good night out on the scene.

I don’t NEED this work. I could possibly go out every single night otherwise. But drinking as much as I want and spending all the money on overpriced drinks every night aren’t sustainable. The money and free drinks and the extra exercise would be really nice for sustainability while still kind of being “out”.

Depending how long you've been with them, you can always "cash in".

I often return to the bar I used to work at to grab drinks and talk with the bartenders I'm tight with. It 90% of the time means free drinks, and there's one bartender in particular who has a shot ready for me before I even get from the front door to the bar. Of course, I don't show up when they're packed as fuck and running around - I don't want to bother them then and I'm probably doing my own shit during primetime elsewhere.

Once you've worked long enough for them, you can still reap some of the benefits. Best case scenario you could build tons of contacts, meet lots of girls, and be all around your scene with people you've met from bouncing, then lead girls or cool groups to your original spot and at least you get hooked up. More people (dudes moreso than girls) usually means less leverage, but you get the idea.


Cheers.

Hue

 

[Skills]

Such a great break down matches some of what i suspected.... You left some things out though, but maybe is in my experience, the thing is from what i read (you work at a strip club? cause some of the afer party involves strip clubs, and/or after stip clubs there is nothing else to bounce to...

so let me tell you what i have observe and my personal experience with my bouncer friends:

- it is a kind of a boring job
- women use bouncer for attention whoring ( i suspect to be seen and cause they know probably nothing is going to happen that night so they are safe, again this is me speculating based on observations)
-they totally lack freedom,the have to be stuck at certain part of the club and then rotate...
-their game is shit!

Now they do get a bunch of numbers but as you know women are flaky and they are not that good at game... Though we have some posters that are bouncers and great gamers cosy, pelusita and the likes...

i have given women to bouncers so i don't know if other people do this, (maybe you can comment on this) but i have gotten bouncers fucked by me giving them girls...Due to the friendship...

When they are not bouncers the game is shit! is like superman with criptonite.(again minus the top puas that transition to bouncer who are .000001% of population)

I seen an average (chubby) bouncer who was the most succesful i have seen which is bizard and i could not stand the dude, and what he did i do not call seduction but whatever...

- he basically would white night a lot and walk drunk girls to the car under (protection) then fuck them...

- he would bounce with girls to after parties... he was very persistent to...

- he would hang out with staff to go to after parties...

For me bouncers is flash game they get tons of attentions, talk to a lot of girls but no pipi in vagina....

 

[noobslay3r]

I did work in a strip club for a little while. I did Friday nights there and 4 nights a week at a pool hall next door. I banged a couple strippers, but both came as a result of them coming to the bar next door when I wasn’t working there. Both were purely physical. In the strip club they made me wear some oversized ugly ass blazer and my best advantage is my physique. So they’d see me in a well fitting T-shirt at the bar next door and realize beneath that oversized blazer I’m jacked. From that point they basically just come up and start grabbing my arms and throwing themselves at me. Bouncer game 101 lol.

My game sucks, but it was even worse then. Strippers, especially when they are working, make their livelihood on making guys think they are interested in them. Most don’t give a shit about someone who won’t pay them, and the few that do wanna talk, it’s hard to tell if they are being genuine or if they just want another dude in their back pocket.

I’m worried about getting back into bouncing because it doesn’t teach you real game. But it can be a good tool to enhance your success as long as it isn’t just a crutch. The biggest potential issue is that it means working on the best nights to go out.