Sell me on your texting style... Minimalist? Conversationalist? Or Seductive...?

[Velasco]

Now let us say you are dealing with one of these attention seeking women: how much impact will your text have on a girl with 8000 instagram followers (who also have snapchat, tinder and so on). It will probably have little impact, and in the rare cases where it does, I believe the cause was that she was into you despite your magical texting (either from the get go or as a result from interacting with you IRL).

"i usually only text women if there is heavy investment, good vibe, chemistry" - meaning if there is 'chemistry' between them, the amount of followers she has become irrelevant.

^ this is a MUST regardless of strategy, though if there is no solid interaction, a bunch of good texter can flip it... (but my advice is super solid interactions a must)

Many people here have "solid interactions" (if by this we mean 10-45 minutes talking, deep diving, banter, sex frames...and yes including second generation verbals (lets not make it out to be like this super deadly and complicated technique, when its really just communication things about you, that can't be seen to the naked eye (aka verbals), that are conductive to fast lays) yet the girl still flakes.

"Flip it" in this instances would mean, despite there not being a solid interaction when the player got the number, in those short 30 seconds of interaction, they may have felt that instant she/he 'gets me' vibe, so through texts he just continued amplify that 'he gets me' feeling.

"Value is largely perceived as a vibe which is sensed on a subconscious level. How long does it take you to figure out if you like a person or not? 1 minute? 30 seconds? Some of my most memorable relationships came from 1‐3 minute number closes".

I am not for everybody, nor do i want to be for everybody i want to target the specific girls that "get me" those are just more rewarding girls

Meaning when he approaches girls in real life just being his natural silly self and the girl responds well to him (cuz she likes his look and vibe)....when he goes to text her silly shit (before asking for the meet)...of course its gonna have her itching to meet up ASAP.

See what happens (at the end of this article) when he tries the same (being himself in text) on a girl that doesn't get him/no chemistry

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I want to mention that to this day, I still have not read a single STEP-BY-STEP guide on how to seduce a girl from 0 to 100 in a way that is easy to reproduce (by others) and that gives a clear model on how to proceed in most situation.

Will never exist (a legitimate guide I mean).
alright now lets get to the actual tech

minimalist make you look thirsty, "how does your schedule look like" = desperation she has not invested, this low odds

look at Chase's definition of minimalist again

Minimalist: texts are just for logistics. You text as little as possible, and just use texts to get girls on dates

Meaning the whole purpose behind you texting her that day (which INCLUDES your opener+follow up response), is to set up meets (for that day or a future date). Only that you do so with as little texts as possible (ex: 4-5 back and forth texts Vs 20 back and forth texts).

Your guide, for example, would fall under minimalist:

Simple/basic texting guide

There are 2 types of texting most guys use: 1.- long texting setting sexual frames.- This is hard to do, but is possible to do with experience. I had to rely in this style for 2 reasons: a.-) I relied a lot on physical game, no talking dance floor game and i had a heavy latin accent. b.-) By...

www.skilledseducer.com

Something like this:

How to text your way to a sexual encounter (sexting)

This is the best way to go from texting to sex from cold approach pick up, without even making one phone call.

www.theskillsmethod.com

is not minimalist (especially compared to your texting guide above. Its not "as little texts as possible"). This example would fall under Chase's 'seductive' definition (even tho he does eventually set up a meet for the following day, at the end).

And 'Conversational' again. Means you just shoot the shit with her. The purpose behind you texting her that day was just cuz you wanted to make her laugh. I personally like to do this early on (before she's a fuckbuddy) but don't like to go too long (why I called mine 'minimal conversational' (I don't want to give her too much of the good stuff) meaning I'll end the convo first (usually after she goes "hahahahaha"). Just bait for her to eventually ask me to hang out (she'll need to hang out with me to get the full Velasco experience (girls often complain that I am the most boring texter of all time (but as you can see that's done on purpose)). More solid for her to be the one initiating meetups.

 

[Teevster]

"i usually only text women if there is heavy investment, good vibe, chemistry" - meaning if there is 'chemistry' between them, the amount of followers she has become irrelevant.

I think it is unfair that you keep digging up people's old posts (2016). Even though I disagree with skills here, I think one should be skeptical about bringing out old posts - especially in such situations. Skills may have gotten better since then, or may have changed things up. I know that even though most of the things I did in 2016 worked and were good, and I may keep doing things similarly today, there are things that may have changed or be tweaked or even bettered.

Will never exist (a legitimate guide I mean).
alright now lets get to the actual tech

Quick correction here - I forgot a word in my previous response. I was talking about a legitimate step-by-step guide on "seducing a girl through texting" and not a just a step-by-step guide on seduction (we have plenty of those!).

"i usually only text women if there is heavy investment, good vibe, chemistry" - meaning if there is 'chemistry' between them, the amount of followers she has become irrelevant.

As we know, women can be deadly into you right there and then - i.e. be super compliant and all that. Then you take her contact, feeling good, feeling "as if" a day 2 is secured just to have her flake.

I do not believe a solid hook is a guarantee for a day 2, far from it.

I am pretty sure you agree with this.

but I believe that instagram girls and other attention whores care little about deep connections and exciting moments with men, unless it is spontaneous and she gets carried away by her emotions. These women have become so damaged that normal human needs have now become suppressed. Those natural needs kind of have to be reawaken. Hence IRL you can do exactly that, and you may have managed to "re-awaken" her natural dispositions. Yet the moment you are gone, your spell is gone too, and she will go back to her old artificial self, where her purpose is to collect as much attention as possible.

Which may lead you into never ending "texting back-and-forth" loop.

We may go for the minimal texting as an easy way to dodge that, and as a mean to convey that WE ARE NOT one of these guys. But sadly, this is oftentimes simply not enough.

But worry not, this is where video messaging comes in. Not only will you have much more tools at your disposition (voice, vibe, ability to talk and convey more and so on) but you may also have a much higher chance of triggering anchors and remind her of the great time she spent with you, and re-elicit those strong emotions.

And that's my new M.O.

Best,
Teevster

 

[hey_lover]

There are a lot of limiting beliefs regarding texting. You CAN game a girl over a text, the seductive and conversational style is proof of that. While texting is a limited medium of conversation, you CAN experience emotional stimulation and sexual arousal over text. Have you never got pissed off or laughed your head off at something a friend texted you? Similarly, have you never got a boner while texting a girl? There is one faculty that can be engaged during texting and that's imagination. People read written texts in books and become completely immersed and stimulated by the letters on a page. Why would it be any different to words on a screen? If constructed correctly, there is absolutely no reason why you can't build intrigue, generate curiosity, emotionally stimulate, and sexually arouse through texts. You CAN game a girl over text and then continue gaming her in person. They aren't mutually exclusive to one another.

In my experience, minimalist texting has the highest flake rate and it follows the exact same pattern, girls agree to a date and then flake on the day.

The strategy which has worked for me is texting her on 2-3 separate occasions throughout the day, typically morning, afternoon, and evening. And do it daily leading up to and following the dates. Keeping it conversational so that it lowers the odds of writing something that she takes the wrong way. I view texting as a way to keep her warm and engaged during a time where there are countless things that can hijack her interest in you.

I have extroverted friends who text as much as they do talk. They marathon text AND get the girl. If you're in competition with such a guy, you will be long out of sight and out of mind. And she will be a lot more excited meeting up with him than she will be meeting up with you. Girls have things going on in their lives and they have multiple suitors. This isn't a competition between you and 100 Instagram orbiters. This is a competition between you and the small handful of other genuine prospects in her life. If those guys are texting her more frequently, generating more excitement, and keeping themselves in her mind, then they will win. And you will get that flake.

 

[Will_V]

I have typically been pretty meh at texting, but lately I have been doing very seductive style texting and it seems to have hooked a girl pretty well who was initially a bit cold. I really let myself go and it seems to have actually worked well.

Normally I've been pretty logistics focused and date-pushy and my flake rate seems high, so we'll see about this. I haven't tried it enough times to know if it's actually a good idea.

Here's an example of part of it, we already had a date that was so-so, things seemed to cool down a bit, and then I sent this:

Me: Happy Sunday

Her: Happy Sunday! I hope you enjoyed your sunny and beautiful weekend. I remembered you today . I went to a party with a Brazilian friends and it was full of brigadeiros.

Me: I did, the mix of warm sunshine and hint of winter is invigorating .. do you always think of me when you see something delicious .. ?

Her: haha That is not what I meant, but if you think like that it makes you 'happy', I cannot control ..

Me: Haha don't worry, I wont tell was there samba music playing too? I know how much you love the carnaval

Her: Speaking is a liberating process, didn't you know? No samba... Brazilians laugh out loud and love to talk as you already know. Sometimes we don't even need music to make the party work.

Me: Well it can be our little secret, no one else has to know .. hehe that's true, Brazilian parties rock .. sometimes it is also liberating to relax in silence, breathing deeply, becoming in tune with our thoughts and feelings .. do you practice often?

Her: Deep connection = no secrets. Anyway, changing the subject ... I think I'm not yet evolved to the point of meditating with walls around me.

Me: It's wonderful to meditate in the open air, with your face to the sun and the gentle caress of the breeze on your skin, breathing in the strong salty smell of the ocean .. our senses were made for so much more exhilarating things than what everyday life offers, don't you think?

Her: In my next sunset I try to think about all this beauty. Maybe I can get the calm you have.

Me: Everyone can feel relaxed and calm .. when we train our minds to focus on beauty and constructive thoughts, and let everything else leave .. maybe I will guide you through a meditation someday

Her: It's so funny because I must be a person who truly express my inquietude because everyone says I need to meditate.

Me: maybe a little, but I like how playful and expressive you are with me .. I think you have a deep nature and sometimes your emotions overwhelm you .. with me you can be yourself and let it out

Her: I'm always myself with everyone. But with each person we express ourselves in a different way. I'm just following the flow of the conversation.

Me: and I like leading the flow of the conversation .. it's like a slow dance isn't it? The kind where your body melts effortlessly into the other person, and your senses are filled with their warmth and smell ..

Her: I could spend all day asking you questions, but you certainly wouldn't answer them completely.

Me: You can ask me, but I prefer to tell you when I'm looking into your pretty eyes .. when are you free this week?

Anyway, we're meeting up later this week.

I'm not sure it's the best use of one's time, but I quite enjoyed this, and I think so did she. I think if you're going to try to be seductive on text, you have to go all in and be relentless, it can get boring quickly if the vibe isn't there, for both of you.

Guys need to remember that while men are very visual, females have an affinity for tantalizing, evocative dialogue. That's why women read torrid novels rather than watch pornos - go to the romance section of your local bookstore and they'll be there like flies all over these ridiculous books. They like to be told things that spark their little fantasies and daydreams, and the right choice of words can be very teasing and hypnotizing for them.

Again, text is a weird medium for any kind of seduction, so I don't know if it's ideal to spend very long in it, but in any case this was a fun experiment and it felt constructive overall for the seduction.

 

[Skills]

I have typically been pretty meh at texting, but lately I have been doing very seductive style texting and it seems to have hooked a girl pretty well who was initially a bit cold. I really let myself go and it seems to have actually worked well.

Normally I've been pretty logistics focused and date-pushy and my flake rate seems high, so we'll see about this. I haven't tried it enough times to know if it's actually a good idea.

Here's an example of part of it, we already had a date that was so-so, things seemed to cool down a bit, and then I sent this:



Anyway, we're meeting up later this week.

I'm not sure it's the best use of one's time, but I quite enjoyed this, and I think so did she. I think if you're going to try to be seductive on text, you have to go all in and be relentless, it can get boring quickly if the vibe isn't there, for both of you.

Guys need to remember that while men are very visual, females have an affinity for tantalizing, evocative dialogue. That's why women read torrid novels rather than watch pornos - go to the romance section of your local bookstore and they'll be there like flies all over these ridiculous books. They like to be told things that spark their little fantasies and daydreams, and the right choice of words can be very teasing and hypnotizing for them.

Again, text is a weird medium for any kind of seduction, so I don't know if it's ideal to spend very long in it, but in any case this was a fun experiment and it felt constructive overall for the seduction.

Is not a weird medium, and you don't have to spend lots of time either, I let them know if I don't text right away is not cause I'm being aloof, but busy with clients... if the texting is boring is on the seducer, though as you notice the girl has to invest a bit..also you can have women come straight over to your place and bang you right away.

 

[Will_V]

Is not a weird medium, and you don't have to spend lots of time either, I let them know if I don't text right away is not cause I'm being aloof, but busy with clients... if the texting is boring is on the seducer, though as you notice the girl has to invest a bit..also you can have women come straight over to your place and bang you right away.

Well if I've got things going on like working on my biz texting can get a bit distracting and I sometimes end up sending boring stuff. With seductive texting my feeling is that an hour between replies is probably the max as it relies on a bit of a bubble. So I usually write a reply immediately but not send, then refine a bit later, works well for me.

True that about words being a form of soft escalation, I had a SNL earlier this year that was deep diving for two hours then pretty much straight to bed, and she was all over me too pulling my t-shirt off. When done right words are like caresses for a womans soul.

 

[Skills]

Well if I've got things going on like working on my biz texting can get a bit distracting and I sometimes end up sending boring stuff. With seductive texting my feeling is that an hour between replies is probably the max as it relies on a bit of a bubble. So I usually write a reply immediately but not send, then refine a bit later, works well for me.

True that about words being a form of soft escalation, I had a SNL earlier this year that was deep diving for two hours then pretty much straight to bed, and she was all over me too pulling my t-shirt off. When done right words are like caresses for a womans soul.

Don't look at it as relying on "bubble" or "seductive texting" is just having a normal convo, those things come in the mix but you don't have to keep that bubble or anything like that, and it does not have to be like you are saying it either, open>chat>flirt and or seductive texting and or sexting and or bubble and or deep dive>move things forward>soft close> if not there rinse wash repeat, if there hard close..... again that reliance on the bubble is not a good strategy, is almost impossible to keep that going through texting.. you need to constantly mix it up, but is not even a technique look at it more as a structure... Use google voice by the way, helps a lot...

 

[ulrich]

The very point of minimalist texting is not to depend on texting.
You CAN seduce and make a girl fall in love over text... it is possible... but it’s unreliable.

That’s why you are supposed to get the hooking point, interest and date promise when you ask the girl’s number.
This is of course a purist way to see things... in real life there will be some holes that you can fill with the other styles of texting.

But the main idea of minimalist texting is understanding that texting is a secondary tool in service of your game... not the other way around.

 

[Will_V]

Don't look at it as relying on "bubble" or "seductive texting" is just having a normal convo, those things come in the mix but you don't have to keep that bubble or anything like that, and it does not have to be like you are saying it either, open>chat>flirt and or seductive texting and or sexting and or bubble and or deep dive>move things forward>soft close> if not there rinse wash repeat, if there hard close..... again that reliance on the bubble is not a good strategy, is almost impossible to keep that going through texting.. you need to constantly mix it up, but is not even a technique look at it more as a structure... Use google voice by the way, helps a lot...

Yeah you're right, I'm probably imagining the bubble thing. I'll get more spontaneous about it eventually, it takes me a while to sort out a good reply still.

 

[Skills]

The very point of minimalist texting is not to depend on texting.
You CAN seduce and make a girl fall in love over text... it is possible... but it’s unreliable.

That’s why you are supposed to get the hooking point, interest and date promise when you ask the girl’s number.
This is of course a purist way to see things... in real life there will be some holes that you can fill with the other styles of texting.

But the main idea of minimalist texting is understanding that texting is a secondary tool in service of your game... not the other way around.

the problem with that strategy is that it will put PRESSURE on the girl that will cause after the interaction is over a possible state change that will cause flakiness, second guessing etc... The goal of texting is to keep the interest and excitement going or increasing as a bridge till next meet and/ or sexual encounter...

 

[ulrich]

the problem with that strategy is that it will put PRESSURE on the girl that will cause after the interaction is over a possible state change that will cause flakiness, second guessing etc... The goal of texting is to keep the interest and excitement going or increasing as a bridge till next meet and/ or sexual encounter...

Mmmhhh, you leave me thinking.

 

[Will_V]

the problem with that strategy is that it will put PRESSURE on the girl that will cause after the interaction is over a possible state change that will cause flakiness, second guessing etc... The goal of texting is to keep the interest and excitement going or increasing as a bridge till next meet and/ or sexual encounter...

I'll add to this that it seems a good idea to text somewhat in the style that you game .. being congruent.
If you're a cool dude but you're all business in person and someone of few words, you can probably get away with the same in text.
Like you say, avoiding state change.