Simple/basic texting guide

[Skills]

@Skills

I found this useful - thank you. I was often going straight in for the kill, and it seemed to have a low hit rate. I think, as you mentioned, I got that from 'models' which basically says don't use text to do anything other than set up a date.

But actually i've tested your method a little bit recently and it seems to work a bit better. Going in for the kill straight away seems a bit desperate / keen.

Funnily enough ... the past 6 girls I've number closed in day game , I've used the same text to for every one of them. And every one has responded. My text is -

"Hola"

Thats it. Just hola. But it kinda works because its a bit stupid (obviously using spanish instead of english) and they all seem to respond. A typical response is something like "Bonjourrrrrr how are you??"

And then I just go from there.

But yeh, i definitely like the idea of a little bit of banter and then attempt a soft close. I need to get better at transitioning into the soft close from banter though. it does take a little bit of creativity, depending on what the topic of the banter is ....

models texting is outdated, and is bad even when he came with the book.... his texting advice is awful in that book, though i recommend the book, best book on neediness management and inner game...Outer game on that book is awful...

Hola! is weak... Open bantering without intro. on a topic related to the meet... is the best, no intro.

second best is to text yourself or have her text your right then and there to build momentum....

 

[Mikedee]

There are 2 types of texting most guys use:

1.- long texting setting sexual frames.- This is hard to do, but is possible to do with experience. I had to rely in this style for 2 reasons:

a.-) I relied a lot on physical game, no talking dance floor game and i had a heavy latin accent.

b.-) By the time the texting technology came around from the beeper technology lol, i was already with live ins.


^ most of my lays came from this system... At times a dude could see my texting and say, "dude fuck her already" but in some cases i had to delay cause of logistical issues while keeping them from dropping off.(live ins)


^ I have seen the dudes learning second generation verbals, try to do this in text, but is just horrible, they don't do it right and are totally uncalibrated. Yes is possible to do but learn the other way first(#2 that is), cause this is more advanced, plus the guys that invented or teach second generation other than cosy r.i.p don't even advise or get mad when you use it for texting.


2.- The second community advise is text to meet, but i have seen most members of the forum just do it horrible as well, i also read dozens of books and field tested, it is just bad advise, you burn through too many leads... the way they lay it out is horrible and low odds.


most of them open>then close = super low odds, is like cold approaching and saying "wanna fuck"...

here is a typical community example:

open: hi this is pua from the mall...

close: how does your schedule looks like?

^even books i highly recommend such as models, follow similar texting advise, they have the right intention, of cutting the crap and screen, but is just low odds.

^ i get very sad when i read samples and samples, even from guys that get laid, after long "ghosting periods" that were unnecessary by following that advise.


Here is a sample of open>close = low odds:

open:
Me: Hey! is pua

Close:
How's your schedule these days to grab a few margaritas before on a terrace somewhere before the summer is over !?


^ most dudes are not even creative they go "how your schedule looks like"= "hey wanna fuck" = low odds.


^ That is most pua advise unfortunately, the pua is just following community dogma, of guys that are bad at texting telling other guys that are really bad at texting how to text.


So i am going to teach you a simple way of texting that is very little dancing monkey, yet, it will yield higher odds while minimizing mistakes (cause a lot of you are totally uncalibrated as fuck, but you guys think you are cute, is just horrible, then you give the same horrible advise to newer people)


open > wait for a response prior to double texting and give it time > banter/flirt/get her to qualify etc....>soft close> hard close

Sample:

hey Maria how is your day going and how are those uni classes treating you? (or something like that related to the meet or convos in this case the dude met the girl in the uni...

her: blah blah

pua: You should take a break from all that study and have a little break with a handsome hot guy = soft close/testing waters/pinging/shit testing...

3 answers:

her: oh i would love to = or anything positive is a green/go ahead/interested

her: oh i am so busy these days and so much going on that i barely have time for anything = objection/yellow/maybe needs to be address

her: ghosting/ i don't feel comfortable/ i don't know you/ i am sort of seeing someone/etc...= objection/red/no that invested

^ depending on that answer, flirt, close or address shit test/objection.... then proceed...till you get a positive/green/go ahead/interested THEN SOFT CLOSE AGAIN, before hard closing, then rinse wash repeat if needed, get me guys?

ex green: proceed to hard close

pua hard close example: I am going to be busy most of the week but maybe Thursday we can meet is going to be a lot of fun and give you nice breaks from studies, let me know were you are coming from so i can give you directions, wear something cute and casual....

ex yellow, addressing objection: i hear you, i am super busy as well, but if you want to get a better grade and pass the class, going out for few minutes with a handsome, fun hot guys like me, is actually recommended by most professors, can't believe you did not know this...

yellow hb answer: lol, maybe you are right

^ now you can go for pua hard close, about the schedule and directions....


Red addressing objection: Listen i thought you were really cool when i met you, but if you not willing to get to know me is ok, maybe when i meet you i felt you were cool and thought we would get along and you were someone worth getting to know, but maybe i was wrong, i am not the type to crash into parties when i am not invited.

hb: oh i am sorry, i did not mean it that way, let me look at my schedule


^ these are just samples but it totally annoys me the open=hard closes= low probability technique that i keep seeing in journals, field and even lay reports over and over and over, is low % game.

I tried chase method of texting and I’m currently 0 for 7 . Lost a lot of hit young tender girls with the open — hard close method.

 

[Skills]

I tried chase method of texting and I’m currently 0 for 7 . Lost a lot of hit young tender girls with the open — hard close method.

Opening and hord close doesn't work...i said that a million times

 

[Mikedee]

Opening and hord close doesn't work...i said that a million times

 

[Mikedee]

I do strictly daygame cold approach mostly African Americans. Looking back, I’ve used that method at least 50 times over the past two years, but the successful results have been few. Most of the time, I lost women during the texting stage—probably over 100 who seemed interested enough to give me their number but never followed through. It doesn’t seem to work at all with younger women. While I’ve had some success with women in my age group, my goal with day game was always to attract younger, more desirable women.

 

[Mikedee]

I’ve noticed that dating sites, forums, and the pickup community focus heavily on the approach and the dating phase. However, I think the real emphasis should be on the middle part, texting aka getting her to agree to meet up and follow through without flaking. Many guys struggle with this stage, yet there’s not much material that covers it in depth.

 

[Skills]

I’ve noticed that dating sites, forums, and the pickup community focus heavily on the approach and the dating phase. However, I think the real emphasis should be on the middle part, texting aka getting her to agree to meet up and follow through without flaking. Many guys struggle with this stage, yet there’s not much material that covers it in depth.

Incorrect i been teaching that for the last 5 years...

 

[Mikedee]

Incorrect i been teaching that for the last

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[Skills]

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To clarify 5 years in this forum, i have been teaching that from start and i make that point here

How to increase your chances if the lay is not there on the meet

Disclaimer.- this will be a long comprehensive post but it will totally help you big time, so read it and understand it... Most of the dudes including seducers are still living in the wrong century, or flat out they are not out there gaming or are pretty much kj, because i really don't...

www.skilledseducer.com

You can go through my archives...

 

[Mikedee]

addressing objection: i hear you, i am super busy as well, but if you want to get a better grade and pass the class, going out for few minutes with a handsome, fun hot guys like me, is actually recommended by most professors, can't beli

@Skills What if she goes silent after you attempt to address her objection?

 

[Mikedee]

ex yellow, addressing objection: i hear you, i am super busy as well, but if you want to get a better grade and pass the class, going out for few minutes with a handsome, fun hot guys like me, is actually recommended by most professors, can't believe you did not know this...

I ask my friend who is really good with game about this particular text and he said that’s too much effort. If we are looking at the law of least, this would violate it hands down . Am I missing something?

 

[Skills]

I ask my friend who is really good with game about this particular text and he said that’s too much effort. If we are looking at the law of least, this would violate it hands down . Am I missing something?

You need to find out what is holding back a yellow or address it... Whatever way you want... I guarantee you, your so called friend doesn't text better than me
.. people yell about no neo direct but they text neo direct
.. follow his texting..my friend told me you may be an askhole??

 

[Mikedee]

You need to find out what is holding back a yellow or address it... Whatever way you want... I guarantee you, your so called friend doesn't text better than me
.. people yell about no neo direct but they text neo direct
.. follow his texting..my friend told me you may be an askhole??

Apologies, I didn’t mean to offend. I’m genuinely trying to understand and learn the method. I’ve experimented with different text structures and spoken with multiple people about this, but opinions vary, even among top seduction coaches, there’s no universal consensus. That said, I do like your structure the most. I’m just trying to see if this would have any different effect, as I’m sending it to different demographics to observe any variations

 

[Skills]

Apologies, I didn’t mean to offend. I’m genuinely trying to understand and learn the method. I’ve experimented with different text structures and spoken with multiple people about this, but opinions vary, even among top seduction coaches, there’s no universal consensus. That said, I do like your structure the most. I’m just trying to see if this would have any different effect, as I’m sending it to different demographics to observe any variations

As i told you... Base way you put examples in a journal and i give you samples on things you could do better after 5 to 10 you will get it..