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HoofHearted

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???

It strikes me as logical to leave a chip on the table if it costs you nothing. Even if the odds are terrible, it's still in play and for free?

The worst move imo is exiting the game when there's no reason.

Take my input with a grain of salt. I've deleted numbers because I've been pissed or shook.

But I know I am a fool.
 

Skills

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Ye I feel you, but you don't know if she's really playing games or if she legit has a bunch of problems she can't get over to go and meet you. People are complicated. All you see on your screen, is your interaction with her, but she's got a whole life, not only the other guys trying their luck with her, but her job/school, her family, her other duties or whatever.

It's fine to delete a girls number and move on if that's what you wanna do, but I think you're being maybe a bit too rigid on how you play the game. If you're unexperienced and just want to get a general point of view with women and some (or a lot) of lays quickly, that's totally fine, and maybe even the best approach. But later down the line, if you really wanna get with some specific women, you're going to be a bit more flexible, willing to have more patience, to put a bit more effort in some interactions. I wrote a post on a journal as an answer, but I think it explains what I'm talking about better, and it's something I've been thinking about lately and it's been showing some potential for me, at least: being more flexible.
correct the reason why you don't cut numbers, is cause is a retarded strategy.....

here is the difference though, this is totally off topic, the op title is off topic too cause is a different issue but why is retarded to cut numbers i argue this with even advance dudes....


player with flawed strategy

-Guys meet girls gets number

- guys gets frustrated cause girl is not giving him anything, usually bad texting, or girl no there in that period of life, or neediness or maybe she is not into the dude....

- dude deletes number cause he can not control himself emotionally if he see the number...

^ out of 100 girls sample size lets assume he just lost 100 girls...

Player with right strategy

- guys meet girls

- she is not giving him anything...

- he does not text but keeps the number

many outcomes:

1.- if the dude was super needy or in my case not getting investment i am used to and withdraw, she may feel this and once in a blue move she will re-engage. (this has happened to me more times than i count on, and my current main)... so if i deleted the number i would not be with her right now..

2.- she may be entertaining other prospect that she has higher on her on interest, so she is giving them priority.... If this fails, she will reasses priorities and be like "shit i made a mistake the dude that i did not give the priority may have been a better choice"

3.- you may run into her at a club or any other place, and now she sees you different, change perception...

4.- she may have forgotten about you and you ping her and now she has a state change, and at that point of her life she is interested...


^ you get my point..... there are many more but enough.... out of 100 girls you block or deleted maybe you can get 10 to be conservative maybe more.... is it better 10 or 0....

again blocking is a retarded strategy makes 0 sense... I have google voice i just keep the numbers and don't text them simple...If is an issue of phone capacity....


back to the op, the girl lost interest due to neediness or whatever reason it does not matter.... All this let me earn her back strategies are flawed..... Radio silence (no contact) move on, most times they will ping back at some time if that is done right... I had gfs in the past were like this radio silence, they come bag, even beg for me to take them back (which is also a flawed strategy), but some of you need to get women it did not work out back so you can experience what i am saying... better to move on, unless there was some type of friction, like she moved and that cause the end etc... super special circumstance...
 

Chad Tyrone

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Hey guys really appreciate your input .My eyes are now better open after reading Chase article on this.And I admit ego was really getting in my way.I believe this can work for me now as I look at it cause I worked myself into the kind of guy women want.

I got lots of options going on for me now than a few years back.Only ever had a oneitis 5 years back.I'm sexy and get compliments thrown my way.Thats why I believe the lead that I was talking earlier on chased me and I ended up closing things out.I also have few leads I haven't texted for months and we are cool.

I love the game and I won't miss out on this.By implementing the bhic text into my toolbox I believe I am armed enough.Matter of fact I want to use it rn on a solid 9 that I have persisted with more than enough.

I am also working on deleting phone nos.I believe I can up my meet to lay ratio with this.Though I like people with value in my phone.I never delete a valuable person off my phone.

I'm willing to use the bhic text now after I quitted it some years back when my game wasn't this slick.Once again,@Chase feel appreciated.I choose to remain a student of the game.With the beginners mind I believe there are more possibilities.I now shackle my egoitic mind or rather seeing as I have arrived.

Here's to us...
 

Beck Bass

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you may run into her at a club or any other place, and now she sees you different, change perception...
Yeah may chicks I had on IG this type of stuff would happen, sometimes I would lose sight of them in the venue or something would intervene and I couldn't approach, I would send a message and meet them easily. Also she might reply later if she just sees you're cool now, with preselection and stuff, maybe she's not got a whole lot on her plate now lol
 

Chad Tyrone

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@Skills ,@Chase
Do u still have lead numbers from years ago.I mean leads that were going nowhere in the sense that u may have escalated on her back at yours or hers and maybe she didn't put out or turned out to be flirts that were just leading you on.Do u still keep their nos say after u even sent her a botched escalation text and maybe nothing happened.

Really need some rules on cutting some slack.lol
 

Chase

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@Chad Tyrone,

Awesome man, I am glad that article helped. Sounds like you would be in a better position to use that text / not delete now, yeah.

As for numbers from years ago... there is probably some kind of time-law where the farther out you go from when you take the number, the less likely she is to pop back up on her own. But I will occasionally have chicks pop up again years later, usually because they are recently out of a long-term relationship or have just moved back to the area after being away and they are going through their contacts lists looking for who might still be around.

I don't know that I've ever had a girl I botched the escalation on reach out first. I've resurrected a few of those months after the botched escalation, but have never tried after years (edit: wait, now that I think about it, I did try contacting a handful of botched escalation girls years later while passing through their area quite a few years back. No dice). Once more a couple of years go by my thoughts are basically, "Eh, she's probably married with a kid by now, I'll go meet some new chicks."

That said, I have occasionally followed up with girls years later, only to find they actually are married. It's always a fun occasion to pretend to be shocked and ask them why they didn't invite you to the wedding, lol. "Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know you wanted to come" is the usual reply... It's sort of hilarious imagining this gal getting married with like 20 guys she went out with once or twice all in the pews.

Chase
 

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@Chase I still find it to be super odd how some girls who never liked me, were short and super blunt, after some years (!) suddenly become intrigued and hope I engage them. I am talking about these hard nut to crack type of girls who dislike you despite that other girls in general like you. And its not about attainability either. For instance one of them has been a total bitch towards me (I just mirrored in aloof way and engaged other girls). One day I eavesdrop and hear her talking with her grandmother thay she doesnt like my kind of people lol. So I guess that is the culprit. Anyway I had tried to talk with her 2 or 3 times spread into 3 years I think. One day she suddenly surprised me when I was gaming another girl by engaging us and I just sensed her position towards me had changed, since then her demeanour has been more warm/anticipating. To be fair I never really cared too much about this one and just pinged her out ot of boredom, but still am intrigued with these sudden changes.

What I am wondering is what explains these shifts? She has already seen me with preselection since years ago, she has seen enough other attractive traits I would say. So why change now, after multiple years? Superlong timeframe

I know I am asking something vague, but I guess that is why I am asking.
Really curious to what you think.
 
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Beck Bass

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What I am wondering is what explains these shifts? She has already seen me with preselection since years ago, she has seen enough other attractive traits I would say. So why change now, after multiple years?
You change, she changes, everything changes...
I remember hitting on some friends of friends hard and these girls shutting me down, then years after they were chasing me on IG, telling they are into me to my friends, or at least talking about me, and so on.

Would be curious to read what Chase has to say about it as well. Yesterday I met a cute redhead that's bestie with one of my best friends (a dude), I just looked at her and she kinda turned like "wtf is this guy doing", then she recognized me and greet me excited, but she was leaving. This girl in specific used to be a cold bitch towards me, my friend told me she had a bunch of dudes chasing her, but she wasn't even that hot or trying to be, really. Lately, though, she's been wearing more makeup and revealing clothes in general, posting sexy stuff on IG, just being foxier in general, and she seems more open to me. Maybe she was expecting them nice guy providers to take care of her, but she got tired of their boring lifestyles and lack of dominance (and now wants some wild player guy, hence the sudden sexuality)? No idea...
 
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Skills

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@Skills ,@Chase
Do u still have lead numbers from years ago.I mean leads that were going nowhere in the sense that u may have escalated on her back at yours or hers and maybe she didn't put out or turned out to be flirts that were just leading you on.Do u still keep their nos say after u even sent her a botched escalation text and maybe nothing happened.

Really need some rules on cutting some slack.lol
As i said multiple times i dont ever delete numbers ever..... i have met girls lets say years ago... i go out cold approach and as i am saving the number, i already had it and i tell them we met before and show the number and i ask them if we slept together as a joke... and yes sometimes i ping years later and game on...
 

Chad Tyrone

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Haha..did we sleep together.lol.I mean duh for her
As i said multiple times i dont ever delete numbers ever..... i have met girls lets say years ago... i go out cold approach and as i am saving the number, i already had it and i tell them we met before and show the number and i ask them if we slept together as a joke... and yes sometimes i ping years later and game on...
 

DarkKnight

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You change, she changes, everything changes...
I remember hitting on some friends of friends hard and these girls shutting me down, then years after they were chasing me on IG, telling they are into me to my friends, or at least talking about me, and so on.
Really want to hear it from the big man. So right now, I wonder if this has been some kind of war of attrition thing where I passively without knowing have gamed her (?) Or display of high fidelity signs, or that I have become familiar through exposure in some way and this opened the road for attraction. And yes perhaps the girl has become changed and more open minded. Who knows.
 

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@DarkKnight,

Anyway I had tried to talk with her 2 or 3 times spread into 3 years I think. One day she suddenly surprised me when I was gaming another girl by engaging us and I just sensed her position towards me had changed, since then her demeanour has been more warm/anticipating.

Nothing vague about that.

You beheld the magic of preselection.

It is the miracle cure that can solve even the saltiest of women.

Girl hates your guts? Decides you are lower than low? Thinks you're a weak-ass tool, or not her type at all?

Just let her see a good-looking girl behaving obviously interested in you, and suddenly she will discover she has become attracted.

Preselection is the warm hearth that thaws even the coldest of frozen hearts.


Chase
 

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@Beck Bass,

Yesterday I met a cute redhead that's bestie with one of my best friends (a dude), I just looked at her and she kinda turned like "wtf is this guy doing", then she recognized me and greet me excited, but she was leaving. This girl in specific used to be a cold bitch towards me, my friend told me she had a bunch of dudes chasing her, but she wasn't even that hot or trying to be, really. Lately, though, she's been wearing more makeup and revealing clothes in general, posting sexy stuff on IG, just being foxier in general, and she seems more open to me. Maybe she was expecting them nice guy providers to take care of her, but she got tired of their boring lifestyles and lack of dominance (and now wants some wild player guy, hence the sudden sexuality)? No idea...

Yeah, that'll happen. I know we all say girls go for bad boys but some girls really start off only wanting to date nice guys and shying away from bad boys (even if they find them intriguing). Generally once they have a few experiences with nice guys though they find them wanting.

I've had several girls who first dated a couple of nice guys tell me about those relationships:

  • They went into them just because they felt like they should or just because they guy was around and nice
  • At some point the guy tried to make things a lot more serious and the girl was just like... eh, not feeling it
  • At a certain point she realized she simply was not really getting anything out of the relationship with this guy
  • A lot of the time the sex with nice guys is pretty disappointing... the guy cums too quick or just is not that great in bed
  • A few experiences like this cause the girl to be more exacting in her romantic standards and look for more manly characteristics

Anyway eventually she starts to wonder if she might be missing something that those sexier guys have to offer.

The fact that you are a friend of her friend makes you fairly safe as well. You're a known factor, but not part of her close social circle, just there on her periphery. Good combination of sexy + safe. If she's branching out from nice guys you're a sort of ideal transition for her to experiment before she goes on to just full on "fucking random players who come up with slick game."

Chase
 

OldGuy

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Chase, I had one woman who I failed to escalate with on our first date, and she went for another man (I did ask a mutual friend about her occasionally) . After almost two years, she calls me out of the blue and they had started hiking and invited me along. We spent over two years as lovers, but she could not raise children and I wanted to be a father. We remain good friends.
 
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