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Why some women say they don’t like muscular guys?

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Warped Mindless

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LOL…

Dude ask question

Dude gets answers

Dude tells everyone why their answers are wrong

Dude roid rages and insults people.

Interesting dynamic.

Anyways… do women like muscles? Yes. But once you get past the whole Brad Pitt in fight club look it has diminishing returns. I realize that to you, a person who looks at other muscular people a lot, Fight Club Brad Pitt is just skinny, but to most women he is “muscular.”

I started PUA stuff when I was a twig at 145lbs. I’m Now 185lbs of muscle. The excess muscle doesn’t really help much. I probably got more looks from women when I was Brad Pitt Fight Club size tho I get WAY less trouble from other dudes now at my current size.

Once you get bigger than “Thor” (Hemsworth or whatever that actors name is) a lot of women will actually consider you a freak And it’s physically unattractive to women.
 

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LOL…

Dude ask question

Dude gets answers

Dude tells everyone why their answers are wrong

Dude roid rages and insults people.

Interesting dynamic.

Anyways… do women like muscles? Yes. But once you get past the whole Brad Pitt in fight club look it has diminishing returns. I realize that to you, a person who looks at other muscular people a lot, Fight Club Brad Pitt is just skinny, but to most women he is “muscular.”

I started PUA stuff when I was a twig at 145lbs. I’m Now 185lbs of muscle. The excess muscle doesn’t really help much. I probably got more looks from women when I was Brad Pitt Fight Club size tho I get WAY less trouble from other dudes now at my current size.

Once you get bigger than “Thor” (Hemsworth or whatever that actors name is) a lot of women will actually consider you a freak And it’s physically unattractive to women.

Strong gymcel vibes in this thread
 

trashKENNUT

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Women not liking muscles doesn’t make sense so why do they say that?

You guys may not understand.

Hopefully, one day, there is some way i can prove it. The reason that Women do it is to differentiate themselves and it is a dating sales funnel by itself

Hard to believe, like really. I won't blame anyone not seeing this. You might think that i am delusional.

z@c+
 

DonJuan..

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Bruh, like I said in a different one of your threads. You got some issues to work on. And I highly sympathize because I notice in myself agreeing with some things people like you whine about. Hell even my own journal I whine a lot, but the difference is that I'm willing to hear people out and try out shit. Even talking to people about things that I already know in depth because to say stop would be rude and I want their help. It sounds like you don't

But as far as online dating goes I've posted twice about how I could help you and I've been ignored

You've got legit seducers on here taking their time and exercising patience to try and help you and you are attacking them for it. Calling them a cowardly narcissist or what the fuck ever. No, you just don't understand that people don't like to be attacked by someone that they're trying to help. Showcasing a severe lack of common social sense at all, no wonder women don't like you

I'm a pretty nice guy and I don't like you either
Are you expecting me to give you a medal? I already liked your post of offering me help. And you still don’t understand those retards try to argue with me about nonsense the only guy who gets it is rakehell. I’m repeating myself over and over and over again.
You also don’t get it, I already had a conversation with your so called good seducer timeinho this guy wasn’t helping he was gaslighting and lying about things. I even baited him with that. Playing dumb to see whether he will genuinely help and after I showed him the article, he started to gaslight me. I don’t make accusation simply like that, I need information first. I also noticed in the chats that he is working in the sales, sales people learn how to manipulate and exploit people because that’s there job to get what they want. It’s also true that sales people are more prone to be higher in narcissism. If you are an experienced psychologist and work in settings, you can easily see the patterns. They are all the same, you can easily recognise them.
 

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Can we close this troll thread? It's not productive to anyone
i think donjuan is impulse to be honest...



 

DonJuan..

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I’m
Dude ask question

Dude gets answers

Dude tells everyone why their answers are wrong

Dude roid rages and insults people.

Interesting dynamic.

Anyways… do women like muscles? Yes. But once you get past the whole Brad Pitt in fight club look it has diminishing returns. I realize that to you, a person who looks at other muscular people a lot, Fight Club Brad Pitt is just skinny, but to most women he is “muscular.”

I started PUA stuff when I was a twig at 145lbs. I’m Now 185lbs of muscle. The excess muscle doesn’t really help much. I probably got more looks from women when I was Brad Pitt Fight Club size tho I get WAY less trouble from other dudes now at my current size.

Once you get bigger than “Thor” (Hemsworth or whatever that actors name is) a lot of women will actually consider you a freak And it’s physically unattractive to women.
Everyone? You might be delusional and think every comment must be from a different person. The only guys I was disagreeing with were timeinho and Ulrich.

it depends on your height as well. I’m 6ft1 and 195lbs muscular and women love my body. I already posted a list with weights and how women would perceive you according to that. It’s really like that, I also asked some other people in the forum or Reddit. They go through the same or had the same experience
 

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I am going to make one last point not for the op cause is an obvious banned topic in the forum.... Is cause no matter how muscular every member of this forum aim to be, naturally they will never get to the "body building look" that women don't like, my point is hit the gym and workout, and more importantly watch your nutrition, the look that women DON'T LIKE, nobody in this forum will able to achieve naturally...
 

DonJuan..

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I am going to make one last point not for the op cause is an obvious banned topic in the forum.... Is cause no matter how muscular every member of this forum aim to be, naturally they will never get to the "body building look" that women don't like, my point is hit the gym and workout, and more importantly watch your nutrition, the look that women DON'T LIKE, nobody in this forum will able to achieve naturally...
Skills see you are disagreeing with some guys here as well and you are allowed to do that, but not me what a irony. According to some of the guys here the muscular look that women want is the skinny Brad Pitt’s physique and not aesthetics. You are indirectly disagreeing with some and this was a point I made and was disagreeing as well. You guys fall more and more in the frame of the haters instead making up your own minds and then start to see only negative things in one person
 

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What a train wreck lmao

Thanks for the fun breaks in between my approaches today. Kept my mood light

And since you're offering, I'd love a medal! Thanks bro!


Serious question though as a last ditch effort to genuinely help: how many approaches a week are you making?
 

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You also don’t get it, I already had a conversation with your so called good seducer timeinho this guy wasn’t helping he was gaslighting and lying about things. I even baited him with that.

Okay this guy is obviously a troll

Playing dumb to see whether he will genuinely help and after I showed him the article, he started to gaslight me.

You are ridiculous G!

We had a private conversation where I tried to help you with your one-itis situation. You were crying about how this woman ghosted you because you teased her too much, mis-calibrated sex talk and thought it would be a great idea to send her snaps of you in the gym...(what a surprise) and asking her about the gym

You came across to me as a guy that obviously doesn't get it and even though it may be possible to turn situations like that around, you currently don't have the skill level or social awareness to do so.

When I told you to get more options so you can learn how to calibrate your sex talk and work on attainability you completely ignore the advice and like a needy chump ask

"But what if I send her this last text"

"What if I lose her man?"

"I workout and I'm sexy, why doesn't she love me?" :(

Okay I exaggerated that last text but you get the point

But if you would like, I can take screenshots of our entire conversation and post them here so that others can see for themselves

I don’t make accusation simply like that, I need information first. I also noticed in the chats that he is working in the sales, sales people learn how to manipulate and exploit people because that’s there job to get what they want. It’s also true that sales people are more prone to be higher in narcissism. If you are an experienced psychologist and work in settings, you can easily see the patterns. They are all the same, you can easily recognise them.

Yes I work in sales and what's your point? I've only tried to help you. Didn't ask you for money, Didn't ask you for a review. Shit I don't even know who you really are

But if this is the way you treat people that take time out of their day to help you, I'm not surprised no woman wants you to stick your dick in her vagina

So bro, don't slander my name because women don't like you. It ain't my fault
 

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Trying to figure out the popcorn I’ll eat when DonJuan gets banned and there’s an article either directly addressing this or an adjacent topic for men who legitimately carry some of these ideas (imo men with these ideas wouldn’t find this place due to what they search for but it happens)

Surprised no troll has jumped in here adding race subtly into the mix haha. Gotta love the Egors.

perhaps they’re just waiting to get banned later :/
 

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Surprised no troll has jumped in here adding race subtly into the mix haha.

I think we got rid of the race trolls… for the moment.

Nahhh, this is typical cognitive dissonance.
We get a guy like this every fortnight.

Guy: “I am so valuable but girls don’t like me. Why??”
Forums: “Dude, you got your concept of value wrong. Girls don’t value muscles/looks/money/job positions as much as you think”
Guy: “You all are amateurs, of course I am very valuable”

I guess it’s a huge hit to the ego to realize that the one thing you have been working on the hardest is not the silver bullet you thought.
 

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I think we got rid of the race trolls… for the moment.

Nahhh, this is typical cognitive dissonance.
We get a guy like this every fortnight.

Guy: “I am so valuable but girls don’t like me. Why??”
Forums: “Dude, you got your concept of value wrong. Girls don’t value muscles/looks/money/job positions as much as you think”
Guy: “You all are amateurs, of course I am very valuable”

I guess it’s a huge hit to the ego to realize that the one thing you have been working on the hardest is not the silver bullet you thought.

Not only that, I'm honestly curious about how many approaches these guys are making a week. Because like I mentioned up above, sometimes I find myself agreeing with some of the stuff they complain about. And, I myself complain about a lot but I manage to keep most of it off the forums.

But when I'm out here treating this as a full time job and coming up with blisters on my feet and a dry dick, kinda gets to me sometimes. Like, are they putting in this kinda effort?

For example, I just got back after starting my approach day at 5:00 in the afternoon and it's midnight right now. I did take an hour break so only 6 hours. But still, I wanna know if anyone else is putting in this kind of effort. My feet and legs hurt lmao

EDIT: side note, my PokemonGo account is almost level 40 finally... so that's nice I guess :p
 

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There's nothing wrong with muscles my friend, plenty of jacked dudes getting laid all the time.

When one is getting bad results, there is only one thing that works: to release one's ego and all the negative emotion with it, to embrace reality, and examine it in fine detail. It's very hard to do this, the ego creates a vicious circle where it consumes one's potential in return for being able to believe that it is always right. The student mind is not something only for students, but a place that everyone must visit regularly to unfasten the ego's leash so that they might be made ready to meet what the future asks of them.

I sense that as your muscles grew, your insecurities with women found a strong place from which to hide from the pain of life's reproach. A fortress admirable enough to be proud of - yet too valuable to ever leave for the mere possibility of discovering something new and true. A perfect place for the ego to bask in the riches of self-perpetuating notions and beliefs.

And yet as you walk its parapets, your gaze is drawn to the horizon, and you realize there is something out there that your spirit needs to be complete. Something which does not come when you call out to it, but whispers on the wind. But to go and find it, to even discover what it is, you must climb down from that fortress, leave its secure walls far behind, and step into the wilderness as nothing more than a man - no longer a king, no longer protected, just a student with a student's open mind.
 
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