Do or Die

[empath]

I went like : hi ..... You look really pretty ..... But you also seems to have a bad attitude . ( As in she was having a bitch face that's what I meant with bad attitude ) ....

It was meant as a tease .

Then even though situational approach is tough , but they can work in these situations but maybe it's easier said than done .

Gotcha!!!


Situational is best if you are going be stuck with someone. But this chick had exceptional bitch face and she was not cute, imagine a face of bull dog. But she was dressed in a way to be approached. Colored hair, tatoo, lots of flashy accessory that made her easy to compliment, but she had that bitch face, was chewing gum and she was wearing also earphone.

I tried pinging her said thanks after she helped me to put my bag in the rack but she didn't replied anything.

Afterwards she got chance to sit and I was standing. This was another reason to not go direct, she was sitting and I was standing with some gap. So I needed to be extra loud but that would have received unwanted attention, I tried everything to sit next to her but luck didn't favoured.

Sometime it makes sense not to approach as well.

 

[empath]

A good thing happened didn't capitalised but I was walking with a boner lol, so had to hide it with my bag. A girl walks by we make eye contact, she look down, I walk a bit back to give her some space, she looks up and smile and says thank you. Could have ideally used as an opportunity to approach her.

 

[empath]

Randomly slide into dms of chicks ... It's ridiculously easy to chat with a girl who has just broken up esp. if they are young u can romance like crazy and they eat this shit but if they are older then they become guarded... I think fresh out of relationship is best screen but it's easy to damage these girls as well because they will call easily in love and u just want a a lay.

Had masturbated 2 times yesterday my performance in gym dropped by 60% ... Was on no fap for 20 days. Nofap is best I guess

 

[empath]

I wasted my fucking weekend. I have sort of addition to these online chat room type apps like Omegle, random chat etc .... I know i don't get anything of this.

Used a new app rave.... Ended up with porn, jerking off sleeping.

Was on 20 days streak before which had made me more aggresive while approaching.

Didn't watched porn or went to these kind of apps.

Will try to get into that routine again.

Maybe after 5 days my aggressiveness will come.

Fuck I will be aggresive from rn only. I have miles to run.

Very rarely I am able to get these girls off the app ... Same thing good conversation, non needy, not about sex initially, when they give phone or come to normal app like insta, snap I can be romantic. Need to differentiate from other needy despo randos

 

[empath]

Feeling burned out from approaching ... Not enough sets or time. Installed dating apps ... Getting plenty of likes and messages ... Giving confidence on my looks.

None hooked yet/ ready to meet.. they text slow fuck it.

Approached a girl tomorrow asked her place of work ... Low key side couldnt make convo forward.

I have hard time socializing with girls who friends of my friends idk why

 

[empath]

Fuck it's depressing as fuck ... Being ghosted by girls after matching on tinder bumble ... Fuck it.

I get ego boost when girls like me but fuck it ... One girl exchanged insta ... I knew it's for checking out further nd fuck that bitch ghosted me idk why

 

[empath]

Feeling really bitter ... Feeling like punching that chick if she show up IRL idk why that bitch will ghost me after making plans ... Never felt this bad after getting rejected in a cold approach

 

[Higher]

Feeling like punching that chick if she show up IRL idk why that bitch will ghost me after making plans

Man, I know it stings. Happened to me too -- yesterday in fact. But the thing is, these girls don't owe you shit.

Yes, being ghosted sucks. Of course I wish I knew what went wrong with my girl, just because I hate missing out on an opportunity to learn. But then I remind myself that if I keep thinking about this and get resentful, it's because I'm still not approaching enough women and/or I'm still not fully convinced that I'd be adding value to people's life, and if they give up on me, it's their loss.

Dunno if you have it already, but might be helpful to have a hobby too -- sport, art, whatever it is you'd like.

 

[empath]

Will write about my bumble tinder adventure...

Matched a dtf chick on tinder ... She told she is there for hook up.

I told her to measure it with her tongue.

She said I didn't answer her properly. Told her this is my number contact me

Can't access that account now so idk what she replied but she was hot.

Another match told her i prefer calls over text here is my number she herself called.

Couldn't take it.

Exchanged number from 2 other matches. They are not in city.

Mostly all asks are either by calls over text or ice cream lets corridnate jf they say no then again calls over text.

I had good logistics fod next few days but all chicks are either busy with assignments or live far away and not willing to travel so much to meet.
Wtf maybe seduction gods are not with me. But my i look good or that pic idk getting matches not even put a description

 

[empath]

Fuck fuck ... These bitches ... They say they like want hook and never come ... They start the engine fuck it ... This bitch is a 4 normally i would not like to be seen with her in front of my friends... My flat is empty perfect logistics but these bitches say not today fuck it

 

[empath]

Fuck I messed up big time yesterday.

I matched with a women who was 31 on tinder.

It was night, I texted with usual opener asking how was her day, waited for an hour she didn't replied.

Then i eat some edible, and texted her that I am 24 and I like mature women this got her attention and our texting began.

She herself started telling a lot about herself over text and I vibed well made her laugh a lot ... She recently had a break up and wanted to talk to someone... Screened her for sopentenity and she said she is somewhat but crazy ... We mostly bantered a lot talking about relationships and a bit about her liking and disliking.

She told me she will give me she has been catfished before so she will give me her number after we meet.

It was far away and I was the one who had to travel so I told her, I can't come that far without number, only on the basis of tinder.

She said don't I told her I really want to meer her as an experience... nothing more or nothing less she can block me at best.

Also, I have a GF (broke-up, with her so technically my ex) so I am not gonna chase her or anything.

After building comfort again I asked if she would do it.

This went for some more time she said lets meet in the middle.

And we planned for meeting she asked me put up a pic one to more to see I am the real deal or not, I obliged.

Then again she went to saying number after meet and all and she is not ugly blah blah blah ... She had not put her pics too.

I said I understand... But I think meeting is actually a bad idea ( showing I will walk away)

In between I tried to say I want to hear her voice to get her number.

She figured out I am stoned while bantering and asked me to come stoned for the date as well.

Then again went to meeting is bad idea because she doesn't trust me.

Then I left convo and she texted me on whatsapp lo and behold. It worked

Then we texted more ironed out nitty gritties.

Built more compliance and intimacy by asking her to give me a nickname and said confidence this one is used by the family.

Then we planned we will get drinks and all.

Then things started going south ... Somehow conversation shifted to astrology and there was some miscommunication and she thought my sign matched with her abusive ex.

I ironed that out by first building positivity and reminding her of good experiences she had with other ex.

Letting her vent etc.

Then she said me good night.

I wanted more compliance and this is where I fucked up.

I asked her to send me a voice note saying good night.

She said no.

I pushed it for 2-3 time and last one was cavemanish.

I should have left things at that because I am someone who is willing to sacrifice sleep for fun but not everyone else is.

Also, I had streched her too far.

Our texting was 3+ hours.

Also, she had associated me with her abusive ex and I just got her marginally agree to meet by saying I am different.

So she ended up blocking me on WhatsApp.

Also she eneded up removing me from tinder.

I wish i could keep that convo 1) it was fun and 2) I am really proud of my conversation, I overcame a lot of her objection I was pretty chill over all.

Being stoned helped I guess.

But in the end I fucked up when she says good night and most of the plan was ready I should have ejected.

Now, only option left is I will get one shot at a call with her.

I am thinking first in very I will convince her to stay on call. Then tell her I was too my much stoned. If she is willing to give me another chance we can meet again. If she wants more comfort we can keep talking more and ask her to unblock my original number.

I am 100% sure she is soured right now and I am not expecting anything back but no harm trying.

 

[empath]

The call worked she ended up unblocking.

But texted she don't want to meet.

Gaming over the text.

First figured out her reservation.

In past she ended up dating someone whom she didn't wanted to just because of a meet.

She is afraid of that.

I told her I will not be in the city for the more and I want to give her the best experience.

She asked my Sister's name I told her I will tell her in person.

She asked why I have left her at the read.

Trying to change the conversation to travelling, changed my Dp, will use the palce in that to change the topic.

Getting ready at the same time.

Kinda sure will meet this lady.

 

[empath]

She didn't buy my dp question left me on read.

Wont double text and let it be

 

[empath]

Showed my chat to a friend and he said I am looking too needy now. I was just trying to feel her special that all.

Her reply came. After sometime I am too excited about this XD

 

[empath]

She called me, I got too excited and also misunderstood her logistics.

I started talking normally and changed the clothes.

I thought she was at the meeting point but she was near her home.

I forced her to meet me.

Then she said no and blocked me again.

There is lot to call don't feel like writing whole convo.

Overall I was needy and despo.

Fuck it feels sad AF.

I am too tired of thus too tired after all these efforts.

Idk maybe i was excited whatever fuck it

Sleep will fix it all.

If it will be in my destiny I will get it.

Otherwise who knows.

Whatever happens happens for the best.

Maybe I should have waited for escalation windows.

Fuck it fuck it i am angry af

Not on her neither on me actually i am not angry whatever happened happened lets go about the day I have whole day left

Actually sad because I missed this opportunity.

Need to figure out to restart convo I hope she don't block my other number and picks it up.

Maybe a normal text message will be better

Fuck it I should deleter her number

Focus on career like normal people. Build body and spend time with friends.

Maybe its not for me.

Idk I have more desire for women than normal people or I hate routine work and want to not focus on my responsibility thats why I turn towards pick up or lastly my desire is normal but my knowledge of pua pushes me to take action

 

[empath]

One more chick blocked me with with whom I had made exact plan for meeting up.
We were supposed to meet after 2 weeks.

Either need to number close with banter ore Need to keep them engaged until we meet.

what a delicate balance to make.

 

[empath]

I really think girls are not in my destiny or this can work in western countries only where womens are sexually liberated.

More than 50 matches and not a single dtf girl

Never felt urge to have girls in my life and not getting them

Fuck writing is only soothing me

 

[empath]

Made an approach at the beach with direct opener. Girl got startled, stuck with her until I got clear sign she don't want me there, she became too nervous and fumbled. I guess she was too young but she had given me solid eye contact thats why approached her.

Apart from this I have noticed after starting these dating apps motivation to approach real life has decreased somewhat.

 

[empath]

Approached a girl I found her really preety.

As she crossed me, I turned around, ran a bit and then said excuse me.

She turned and then I said with a huge smile, you are looking really preety today.

She said thank you.

I asked can I get your Insta(From now on I say can we connect on insta, us from start, not asking but mutual) but she said, she is not on insta.

I said well you have phone, what about phone number. She said no.

I extend my hand and then handclasped her and said have a nice day.

P.S. I was dressed poorly but face looking good due to shave and haircut.

This was in evening while walking home.

I think I should have engaged her.

Need to experience what work well in which situation. I.e. direct number grab vs talking a bit and then number grab

 

[mr.ice]

I can tell by your posts that you're showing too much interest and that is having the following effects:

You're scaring them away because they don't want a clingy needy guy hanging around their front door after a ONS, you're too emotional over the shit you need to keep your heart in a saferoom where they can't get it.

They are toying with you because they know you want the pussy so bad, you probably failed multiple of her tests and they lose respect and do shit like flake and ignoring message.

Women are always looking for Mr. Perfect, the ONE, their SOULMATE, blah blah blah. You are disconnecting yourself from that archetype in her mind when you show too much interest and chase them.